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I think Vive is getting delayed. It's September and we don't have a date or price yet. If it was coming this holiday we'd be able to pre order by now.

you misspelt flop.
i think you are right.  when is OR coming?   spring right?

Both Morpheus and OR are coming "Q1 2016"
So yes.

makes sense to launch along side that at least somewhat closely.  VR won't be much use without games after-all.

Everyone's hoping for bad stuff apps though.  

Both Morpheus and OR are coming "Q1 2016"
So yes.

Morpheus is coming "first half" of 2016. not Q1. so its most likely Q2.

GAF has a thread wondering if PC supporting PSVR would benefit Sony.  

Everyone seems to contend that PC gamers would buy it, would not buy any PSVR games.  
Which doesn't make any sense at all to me.  

GAF has a thread wondering if PC supporting PSVR would benefit Sony.  

Everyone seems to contend that PC gamers would buy it, would not buy any PSVR games.  
Which doesn't make any sense at all to me.  

It would benefit Sony, They wont sell the thing for a loss. People that want it for PC and PS4 will by a PSVR before Oculus or Vive because it would work with both.

If you have a PC strong enough to run VR, you most likely are primarily a PC player.

The only PSVR games they'd buy would be exclusives, just like the only PS4 games they buy are exclusives.
If it comes out at $399 and they are targeting the enthusiasts, yeah I think PC support would be smart.

However if they go for the mass market price of $199 then it needs to be exclusive. With this strategy they'd be making money off software and expanding the VR market, not off the hardware. OR and Vive cannot go this low.

PC only gamers will most likely be buying Vive and OR.  Better features, such as resolution,  only frame rate would be better.  (So far).

So there's very little reason to suggest they'd be buying PSVR for PC only.  

PS/PC gamers on the other hand
Will likely be having to choose between headsets.  PC probably is the better choice.  
For this group, no PC support means lost software sales for PS, as well as lost hardware sales.  

Even if they're only buying it for exclusives, those games would do better and make the picture for VR that much brighter for Sony.  
This means more exclusives down the road.  

The argument would be which group buys more games.  

Group A which is smaller, but buys all the games.  
Group B which is larger, but only buys exclusives.  

I think Group B would be more beneficial.  

If Group A has 100K, and buys 5 games on average.
And group B has 200K and buys 3 games on average.  
Then group B has bought more games.  

Which might end up being the case, if there are that many people on the edge, and depending on PSVR support.  


I'm just very worried about PSVR support.  "More than 10 games" doesn't sound very exciting.  Even more when you wonder how many will be worth it.  
Just feels exactly what happened with the 3D, Move and Vita.  
Had some exciting software that ended up not being as good as expected, and hardware sales didn't catch on fire.  Then those things were quickly forgotten.  

I'm just very worried about PSVR support.  "More than 10 games" doesn't sound very exciting.  Even more when you wonder how many will be worth it.  
Just feels exactly what happened with the 3D, Move and Vita.  
Had some exciting software that ended up not being as good as expected, and hardware sales didn't catch on fire.  Then those things were quickly forgotten.  

Didn't he say 10 launch games? Doesn't mean there are only 10 games on the way

I never said there would "only" be 10 games.  
I'm worried that support won't pick up.  

I'm worried about something like this
No games people want -> Low sales -> Companies don't want to risk it -> No games people want  -(repeats)-->  gets forgotten -> 5 years from now people will decide that VR was unwanted.  

At the very least they have a VR dedicated studio. Sure seems like they're going all in.

Here's to dreams, and really good cake.  

Elite Dangerous is coming to SteamVR and HTC Vive in a free update this Holiday season. Play it first on Vive at EGX 2015 this week.

— Elite Dangerous (@EliteDangerous) September 21, 2015

Elite Dangerous is coming to SteamVR and HTC Vive in a free update this Holiday season. Play it first on Vive at EGX 2015 this week.

— Elite Dangerous (@EliteDangerous) September 21, 2015

dear god,.. i can't beleive how ignorant some people are to VR.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7538114

dear god,.. i can't beleive how ignorant some people are to VR.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7538114

Was on the stream, but here's an article:http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/0...r-2015-for-99/ (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/09/new-samsung-gearvr-headset-coming-in-november-2015-for-99/)

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"This is the device that will take virtual reality mainstream and deliver a virtual reality for everyone," Koo said during Oculus CEO Brendan Iribe's keynote panel. Though details were scarce, Koo told the crowd that the new headset will be "22 percent lighter" than the prior model and will receive improvements to the side-of-head touchpad and "overall feel." A full list of compatible devices wasn't confirmed, but Koo said that every 2015 Samsung handset will be compatible with the new GearVR.

 

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The most mainstream-friendly announcement that came alongside GearVR was that Netflix will come to GearVR "in the next few months," along with VR apps for Hulu, Vimeo, and TiVo. GearVR will also be paired at launch with an app called Oculus Arcade, which will allow GearVR users to fake like they're standing in front of arcade cabinet versions of such classic games as Pac-Man, Gauntlet, Spy Hunter, and Sonic the Hedgehog. Oculus executives also announced that November will see the launch of GearVR's 1.0 SDK for VR developers.

 

Regarding the launch, on the stream he specified in US it'll launch around Black Friday, and rest of world a little bit after.
 

I think currently Vive and OR have the same resolution and refresh rate.  Unless OR is still doing that non-RGB thing.  
Not sure how good the controls are for OR, but I think overall Vive is ahead quite a bit in this area.  Especially with that Lighthouse business.  
Personally like the look of OR better.  
Vive reminds me of eyes.  
Also OR comes with lots of exclusives apparently.  

On the other side of things, PSVR looks awesome, resolution is a bit lower, frame rate is higher though, controls will be pretty good.  
Mostly worried about support.  

Mitchell explained why Oculus isn't currently taking pre-orders for the Rift by saying "there isn't a big reason to take your money too far ahead of the device." He continued: "What I think about all day long is user experience, right? So if I'm going to promise you something and you're going to hand me a significant amount of money or whatever it is--we all know it's going to be at least $300--if you're going to hand me $300 today, I am not going to be excited to tell you: 'OK, in nine, 10, 12, 11 months, whatever it is, you're going to get something in return.' The longer you wait, the more you're like, 'This is obnoxious.' "

Oculus VP of Product says Oculus Rift will cost at least $300#1 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=179912921&postcount=1)
http://www.pcgamer.com/oculus-rift-price/ (http://www.pcgamer.com/oculus-rift-price/)

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http://www.pcgamer.com/oculus-rift-c...tay-under-400/ (http://www.pcgamer.com/oculus-rift-consumer-release-expected-to-stay-under-400/)[/font][/size]

$300 is a good starting price. Like he said, though. It had better come with some great experiences out of the gate. Now, here's the question. If Rift releases at that price and is show to be technically superior to PSVR, will Sony respond by ensuring a sub-300 price tag?

It wouldn't matter. They won't be world's apart even if rift was better. But I'm sure sony knows that 300 is the ceiling for catching most people.  And sony has the advantage of their break out box that doubles frame rate and makes the image flat on the tv so others can see what's going on.

Anyone tried the Samsung VR?

I dunno, I'm torn on my PC headset now. dang it.

Also can anyone confirm PSVR having two screens? Thought it was one.. But I just watched a video saying it was two 900 x 1080 OLED screens. IF true that would be awesome but I could have sworn it was 1 screen.

Pretty sure it is 1 screen, probably meant per eye.  

i really really wish an open world RPG with visuals and art style like trine gets released for VR. that would be a day one buy for me. imagine exploring an open world like that... hot dang!

Let's make one!  

Not this again ;D

For real this time!  :D

All right then, get to work.

I'll need an artist, an animator, and someone to bring coffee.  

The person to bring coffee should be willing and able to suffer abuse, because I don't like coffee.  

lmfao that persona bit

Field of View has me worried about all 3 of the headsets.

Does anyone have a link to anything that accurately describes what it's the field of view is like with any of these headsets. It doesn't seem to be a major talking point when someone talks about them.

stats keep moving but this was the most recent comparison i found.

http://riftinfo.com/oculus-rift-and-ps4s-project-morpheus-comparison

100 degree FoV

Does anyone have a link to anything that accurately describes what it's the field of view is like with any of these headsets. It doesn't seem to be a major talking point when someone talks about them.

100 degrees seems to be about what it is.  
Think he was more curious to see what it looks like though.  
Forget Vive, OR, PSVR.  I forgot the most important one.  
StarVR.  I know what you're thinking "1/2 tau, my PC can't run a 5k VR display"  
Well instead of thinking like that, think more like this "You'd be buying a future proof VR headset, your PC can't run a 5k display, and your next one probably won't either."

210 degrees FOV bro!

StarVR is just crazy awesome. Next iterations of OR and Vive will probably be around that, using eye tracking and foveated rendering.

I'd pay top dollar for any VR headset that could handle real time focus/depth of field as well. That's the real thing that keeps VR from looking 1 to 1 like real life.

He mentions a racing game at launch. Think it'll be Gran Turismo!?!?

He mentions a racing game at launch. Think it'll be Gran Turismo!?!?

Also he said a puzzle game. Wonder which one he's talking about  ;)

The Witness!

if true i may actually get psvr.  the witness is probably going to be my GotG.

Will probably be my indie GotG.

psvr is suppose to launch early 2016.  if GT is at launch then it better be announced at PGW, 2016 would be insane, and 2016 holiday would be short on exclusives again lol.

I'm guessing Horizon.  
That alone would almost make the holiday better.  
Almost.

Horizon is holiday. TLG is fall. Summer is Rigs and all the Vr games. Spring is Uncharted.

Perfect!

doesn't look like anything nintendo hasn't already done like 10 years ago.   but like they say,.. it's flattering.

The cool thing is that both people are miles apart yet it feels like local multiplayer.

Bartosz Zik (HTC product commercialization manager) states (in 2 interviews) that Dec 8 will be when HTC "premier" the VR headset in UK, US and Germany.
 Not sure what does "premier" exactly refers to here. Could be an announcement of a release date, or the release date itself. Either way its not a public official annoucement so best to take it as a rumor for now.

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Update: We reached out to HTC and their response states “I would not consider this information confirmed or from HTC official channels.”

 

http://www.roadtovr.com/htc-vive-may...view-suggests/ (http://www.roadtovr.com/htc-vive-may-premiere-dec-8th-in-the-uk-us-and-germany-interview-suggests/)
 

Vive releasing Dec 8th!

 Rumor: HTC Vive launch date/launch date annoucement on Dec 8 - NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1128437)
http://www.roadtovr.com/htc-vive-may...view-suggests/ (http://www.roadtovr.com/htc-vive-may-premiere-dec-8th-in-the-uk-us-and-germany-interview-suggests/)
 

I'm getting it instead of a xbox!(or at least I hope to)

Yeah, but what's the cost?

PSVR winning!

WTF is a viewmaster?

No surprises there!

Spoiler for You may recognize:

(http://www.kidclassics.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2839863_orig.jpg)

Spoiler for The headset:

(http://phandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/mattel-view-master-phone.jpg)

I recognize the top, but how the heck is it beating Vive?
I've never even heard of this, and Vive seems fairly common.  

Also what does Aided vs unaided really entail?

Can't wait for the full psvr blowout either at pgw or PSX.

They should port some ps1/ps2 final fantasy and dragon quest for VR for the rpg fans.

Also what does Aided vs unaided really entail?

Unaided brand awareness definition:
A measure of the number of people who express knowledge of a brand or product without prompting (brand recall).

Aided brand awareness definition:
A measure of the number of people who express knowledge of a brand or product when prompted (brand recognition).

So are they shown a VR headset, or a brand name, etc?  

So are they shown a VR headset, or a brand name, etc?  

Unaided would be you're asked a general question about VR and you mention PSVR or Oculus in your answer.

Aided would be you're asked if you know about a specific VR headset.

It has come to my attention that many people in the community think that PlayStation VR will not cater people with a huge library of games and apps during it's launch. With a release date of "first half of 2016", developers have been announcing titles that will be compatible with PSVR even before it's release. Over 200 developers (http://vrfocus.com/archives/24106/sony-over-200-developers-working-on-playstation-vr/) are working on PlayStation VR and more to come. I have come to you today to talk about the potential of the VR space being seen more than just a gimmick. To share our thoughts on PSVR Games and what we want to see in the future. Now with out further a do, here I have gathered a list of games that have been announced to be compatible with PSVR:Confirmed Titles  (45 games confirmed / planned for PSVR)

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RIGS (http://vrfocus.com/archives/16979/rigs-coming-to-project-morpheus-from-guerrilla-cambridge/) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://www.actugaming.net/uploads/79e216d8b5cb779871a3fe348a8a3cfe.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C6bk7pGgMc)

 

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Gran Turismo Sport (http://vrfocus.com/archives/24102/gran-turismo-sport-to-support-playstation-vr/) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/GranTurismo_Header-790x300.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h-Kycm8Jxo)

 

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Until Dawn: Rush of Blood (http://vrfocus.com/archives/24101/until-dawn-rush-of-blood-announced-for-playstation-vr/) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Until-Dawn-Rush-Of-Blood-2-1024x576.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHwhYQbQaJE)

 

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London Heist (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw6x80Qdzak) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Londonheist_morpheus2.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0HMLA-KzeM)

 

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Godling (http://vrfocus.com/archives/17008/first-godling-details-revealed/) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Godling_Header-790x300.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_5dPtFOfyU)

 

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Headmaster (http://vrfocus.com/archives/17006/football-game-headmaster-comes-to-project-morpheus/) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/headmaster_header-790x300.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi3um3QnaL8)

 

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Futuridium EP Deluxe VR (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=179357465&postcount=316) (PSVR Exclusive) (Launch Title)(http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2014/05/29/futuridium1280jpg-dcfe67_1280w.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u43gqUxgaAI)

 

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Futuridium VR Sequel (http://vrfocus.com/archives/17113/project-morpheus-launch-title-futuridium-trailer/) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://i.imgur.com/1fjmTKt.png?1)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRXdTxNklh8)

 

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SUPERHYPERCUBE (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/06/16/superhypercube-coming-exclusively-to-project-morpheus/) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://media.vandal.net/m/32026/superhypercube-201576123957_10.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IXEfQmyBms)

 

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Wayward Sky (http://vrfocus.com/archives/16985/wayward-sky-revealed-for-project-morpheus/) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7f7NcIRgjxA/maxresdefault.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f7NcIRgjxA)

 

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Hyper Void (http://vrfocus.com/archives/19783/new-project-morpheus-launch-title-revealed-hyper-void/) (PSVR Exclusive) (Launch Title)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/HyperVoid_Header-790x300.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZRz8m4I9Q8)

 

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Robinson: The Journey (http://vrfocus.com/archives/24143/cryteks-robinson-the-journey-confirmed-as-playstation-vr-exclusive/) (PSVR Timed Exclusive)(https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/6NKtCgfyxuG6iozuSM5osb3uQDE=/0x1395:1518x2249/640x360/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/46538338/Robinson_The_Journey_Key_Art.0.0.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOZtqDhQP44)

 

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GNOG (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/06/04/monstrous-puzzle-game-gnog-launching-on-ps4-and-morpheus-in-2016/) (PSVR Timed Exclusive)(http://41.media.tumblr.com/3c2dfda9fa23b048ed81bfff05d3d0b8/tumblr_nf3n6u0hMF1s5hzo1o1_1280.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzTWg0sGVh4)

 

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Volume: Coda (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/10/22/introducing-volume-coda-free-expansion-for-playstation-vr/) (PSVR Timed Exclusive)(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/606/22297393552_fdfed915a4_b.jpg)'(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEfmDvLaj0w)

 

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Battlezone (http://vrfocus.com/archives/17019/rebellion-reveals-battlezone-revival-for-project-morpheus/) (PSVR Timed Exclusive) (Launch Title)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Battlezone_Header-790x300.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT4lHJQG5ck)

 

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Megaton Rainfall(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/megatonrainfall_1-1024x575.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cIJALbY25g)

 

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Fated (http://vrfocus.com/archives/12082/frima-studios-reveal-debut-vr-videogame-fated/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/fated_header-792x300.png)(Image) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRN1QnfU8AAt2Kv.png)

 

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Nighttime Terror 2 (http://vrfocus.com/archives/21081/nighttime-terror-2-teaser-footage-released/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/nighttime-terror-2-header-789x300.png)(Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiFoeuanryM)

 

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Earthlight (http://vrfocus.com/archives/23759/earthlight-announced-for-playstation-vr-oculus-rift-and-htc-vive/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Earthlight_Header2-790x300.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj1uD1uUugI)

 

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Crystal Rift (http://vrfocus.com/archives/22518/crystal-rift-coming-to-playstation-4-and-playstation-vr/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/blob_crystalrift.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNhguBsuXmQ)

 

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Trackmania Turbo (http://vrfocus.com/archives/16827/ubisofts-trackmania-in-development-for-project-morpheus/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/TrackmaniaTurbo_Header-790x300.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3piye62BYf4)

 

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Albino Lulluby (http://vrfocus.com/archives/20324/albino-lullaby-planned-for-ps4-morpheus-and-vive/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/AlbinoLullaby2.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq53HkrQ9wc)

 

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The Gallery: Six Elements (http://vrfocus.com/archives/19937/the-gallery-goes-episodic-confirmed-for-project-morpheus-oculus-rift/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/TheGallery_Header.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX_USYc2VtM)

 

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World of Diving (http://vrfocus.com/archives/19796/world-of-diving-coming-to-htc-vive-and-project-morpheus/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/worldofdiving_2.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhLgQINf4Qc)

 

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Pollen (http://vrfocus.com/archives/18346/pollen-confirmed-for-project-morpheus-htc-vive/)(http://i.imgur.com/pnRte46.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_1x_y15Pdw)

 

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World War Toons (http://vrfocus.com/archives/16982/world-war-toons-confirmed-for-project-morpheus/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/WorldWarToons_1.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZwWli3a-N8)

 

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The Hum: Abductions (http://vrfocus.com/archives/10808/hum-abductions-confirmed-pc-playstation-4/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/TheHum_1.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfWu3FKtv-E)

 

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ARK: Survival Evolved (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/05/11/ark-survival-evolved-coming-to-ps4-project-morpheus/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ArkSurvivalEvolved_5.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQM8yWoiy5s)

 

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The Assembly (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/06/11/announcing-the-assembly-for-ps4-and-project-morpheus/)(http://i.imgur.com/MpDR327.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wuc9Y811Pkk)

 

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Eve Valkyrie (http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/03/21/eve-valkyrie-morpheus-launch-title/) (Launch Title)(http://cdn2.gamefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/evevalkyrie.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDzFuvV1wOQ)

 

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Adr1ft (http://www.worldsfactory.net/2015/03/14/adr1ft-creator-super-excited-morpheus-always-been-ps-fanatic)(http://www.hardcoregamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/ADR1FT_07.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_iFq9d2VuM)

 

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Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes (http://vrfocus.com/archives/9386/keep-talking-nobody-explodes-confirmed-project-morpheus/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/keeptalkingnobodyexplodes_1.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1glxPTYSyA)

 

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Mind: Path to Thalamus (http://vrfocus.com/archives/1871/mind-path-thalamus-coming-project-morpheus/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Mind_Header-790x300.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsvME_tN-Cw)

 

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Surgeon Simulator (http://me.ign.com/en/playstation-vr-project-morpheus/86876/news/surgeon-simulator-getting-vr-support-soon)(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/TChZftadNpA/maxresdefault.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsCxl1uG9j4)

 

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Among the Sleep (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-05-13-among-the-sleep-is-coming-to-ps4-with-project-morpheus-support)(http://download.gamezone.com/uploads/image/data/1164091/article_post_width_among_the_sleep.JPG)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EAeewMmM_k)

 

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Loading Human (http://vrfocus.com/archives/12361/loading-human-confirmed-project-morpheus/)(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/f1995cab13a1ecb5c677f2d40f86e958/200097141/loadinghuman_630pxhedimg.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCEIgZG6O7c)

 

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Omega Agent (http://vrfocus.com/archives/23456/omega-agent-confirmed-for-playstation-vr/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/OmegaAgent_Header-790x300.png)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYdwTHhMb8M)

 

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Synthesis Universe (http://vrfocus.com/archives/21420/synthesis-universe-confirmed-as-project-morpheus-launch-title/) (Launch Title)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/synthesisuniverse_psmove-1024x576.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohP3NHlNJhY)

 

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Get Even (http://vrfocus.com/archives/1877/get-even-confirmed-project-morpheus-oculus-rift/)(http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/1179/11799911/2496208-even.jpg)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ1-BLhYocg)

 

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Vanguard V (http://vrfocus.com/archives/9395/vanguard-v-confirmed-playstation-4-project-morpheus/)(https://lh4.ggpht.com/MBMKZ1ns1X0pXNr1FFD09O3squ54gUxX2rity1mvhxzQF98zzEqjraNFGTP8kpBC1A=h900)(Trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTjACJdunjc)

 

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TECHNOLUST Scanlines (http://vrfocus.com/archives/16432/technolust-scanlines-confirmed-for-morpheus-new-detail-revealed/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/TECHNOLUSTScanlines_1.png)(Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMD1S2rgEQM)

 

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Minotaur Rescue (http://vrfocus.com/archives/6811/jeff-minters-minotaur-rescue-ported-gear-vr/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/MinotaurRescue_1.png)(Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3EvrYXJ67o)

 

Quote

Q.U.B.E ² (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/08/14/q-u-b-e-%C2%B2-coming-to-ps4/)(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3880/14729822177_7ab513c6f1_z.jpg)(Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF10wk9jANA)

 

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Project Cars (http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/26/project-cars-will-support-sonys-project-morpheus)(http://www.twinfinite.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/project-cars-wallpapers-in-hd.jpg)(Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01KizKvFVhw)

 

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War Thunder (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/08/13/project-morpheus-support-coming-to-war-thunder-on-playstation-4.aspx)(http://gaijin.ru/upload/image/1000x700/shot2-2012.02.jpg)(Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig6--fbCAu0)

 

Apps / Support

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PlayRoom VR (http://vrfocus.com/archives/18576/playroom-vr-will-be-available-at-project-morpheus-launch/) (PSVR Exclusive) (Launch Title)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/PlayRoomVR_-2-1024x576.jpg)(https://www.jp.playstation.com/blog/20150917_tgs2015_VR_04.jpg)

 

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The Walk (http://vrfocus.com/archives/21469/the-walk-vr-experience-video-released-using-project-morpheus/) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JaV4c4vrUGo/maxresdefault.jpg)

 

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Tekken 7 (http://vrfocus.com/archives/24097/tekken-7-coming-to-playstation-vr/) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/eba0af602793062df8940b596578572d/202872351/tekken7.jpg)

 

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Harmonix Music VR (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/06/17/harmonix-music-vr-coming-to-project-morpheus/) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://static.blog.playstation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/harmonixmusicvr-483x297.jpg)

 

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Joysound VR (http://vrfocus.com/archives/21639/karaoke-title-joysoundvr-coming-to-playstation-vr/) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/joysound-header-790x300.png)

 

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Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 (http://vrfocus.com/archives/22008/dead-or-alive-xtreme-3-to-get-playstation-vr-support/) (PSVR Exclusive)(http://i.imgur.com/mBGXNoX.png)

 

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Apollo 11 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=183183752&postcount=381)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/MoonLanding_Header-790x300.png)

 

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CEEK (http://vrfocus.com/archives/5664/next-galaxy-announces-ceek-project-morpheus-oculus-rift/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Ceek_1.png)

 

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Paranormal Activity VR (http://vrfocus.com/archives/17090/paranormal-activity-vr-coming-to-morpheus-oculus-vive-next-year/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/ParanormalActivity_Header-790x300.png)

 

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Morpheus Companion Apps (http://vrfocus.com/archives/4053/sony-developing-companionsocial-apps-project-morpheus-titles/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Screenshot_2014-06-12-02-24-20-300x187.png)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Leaderboard_Kevin-300x187.png)

 

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Viewable Animated Series (http://vrfocus.com/archives/7473/first-oculus-morpheus-gear-viewable-series-announced/)(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Kaze_Header.png)

 

Demo Titles / Possible Full Games

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DriveClub (http://vrfocus.com/archives/24174/driveclub-being-shown-on-playstation-vr-in-paris-full-support-possible/)Showdown (http://vrfocus.com/archives/21005/epic-games-release-showdown-for-oculus-rift-project-morpheus-htc-vive/)The Deep (http://vrfocus.com/archives/16981/project-morpheus-the-deep-becomes-full-videogame-title/)OVO (http://tarsier.se/fullblog/blog/ovo)Street Luge (http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/12/5801894/sonys-virtual-street-luge-is-the-best-project-morpheus-demo-yet)Summer Lesson (http://www.siliconera.com/2014/09/01/tekken-team-working-ps4-project-morpheus-game-summer-lesson/)Danganronpa VR (http://vrfocus.com/archives/19189/danganronpa-coming-to-project-morpheus/)Kitchen (http://vrfocus.com/archives/17162/capcom-brings-vr-engine-tech-demo-kitchen-to-e3-and-project-morpheus/)Hatsume Miku VR (http://vrfocus.com/archives/17024/sega-bringing-hatsune-miku-vr-experience-to-project-morpheus/)Dynasty Warriors VR (http://vrfocus.com/archives/21641/koei-tecmo-reveal-dynasty-warriors-8-vr-demo/)Final Fantasy XIV VR (http://vrfocus.com/archives/21636/final-fantasy-xiv-coming-to-playstation-vr/)Aquarion Evol (http://vrfocus.com/archives/21653/aquarion-evol-playstation-vr-videogame-revealed/)

 

Rumoured Titles

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Astraea (http://vrfocus.com/archives/23521/astraea-announced-for-ps4-psvr-support-unconfirmed/)Allison Road (http://vrfocus.com/archives/23601/sony-teases-playstation-vr-support-for-allison-road/)Atom Universe (http://vrfocus.com/archives/15160/atom-universe-greenlight-steam/)VizionEck (http://vizioneck.com/)Super Stardust Ultra (http://vrfocus.com/archives/11691/super-stardust-ultra-morpheus-ready-says-sony/)No Man's Sky (http://vrfocus.com/archives/4012/mans-sky-dev-reveals-oculus-rift-experiments/)The Witness (http://www.igameresponsibly.com/2014/01/24/jonathan-blows-the-witness-will-support-valves-new-vr-tech/)

 

Development Interest

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Team Junkfish with Monstrum (http://vrfocus.com/archives/1623/monstrum-developer-wed-definitely-interested-ps4-port/)Rosebud Games with Death in Candlewood (http://vrfocus.com/archives/1928/death-candlewood-developer-love-bring-title-ps4/)Viewpoint Games with VR Karts (http://vrfocus.com/archives/15562/vr-karts-dev-it-would-be-great-to-be-on-vive-and-morpheus/)Neotopia Dev on Morpheus Support (http://vrfocus.com/archives/8120/neotopia-developer-looking-support-project-morpheus/)Kona Dev Talking to Sony (http://vrfocus.com/archives/9072/kona-dev-met-sony-talking-microsoft-good-chance-ps4-version-morpheus-support/)Classroom Acuatic PS4 version hinted (http://vrfocus.com/archives/10002/classroom-aquatic-release-window-revealed-playstation-4-version-hinted/)Elite Dangerous Dev on Morpheus Support (http://vrfocus.com/archives/12505/elite-dangerous-come-playstation-4-line/)Esper Dev would love to be on Morpheus (http://vrfocus.com/archives/13093/esper-dev-love-vr-project-morpheus-dev-kit/)VR Bits wants Darkfield on Morpheus (http://vrfocus.com/archives/13786/vr-bits-looking-bring-darkfield-project-morpheus-htc-vive/)Sublevel-Zero Dev Interested in Morpheus (http://vrfocus.com/archives/13929/sublevel-zero-dev-interested-morpheus-vive-versions/)Ether One Dev Hopeful for Morpheus Support (http://vrfocus.com/archives/7875/ether-one-dev-hopeful-project-morpheus-support-ps4-version/)HammeredHead Interested in Other VR Support (http://vrfocus.com/archives/4170/hammerhead-interested-vr-headsets-undercurrent/)Ape Law Matter of Time Before PS4 Version (http://vrfocus.com/archives/6486/ape-law-matter-time-ps4-version-albino-lullaby/)SNOW Dev teasing Morpheus Support (http://vrfocus.com/archives/6347/snow-devs-tease-morpheus-support-well-sticking-allegiance-ps4/)The Golf Club Dev Gets Access to Morpheus Dev Kit (http://vrfocus.com/archives/3903/golf-club-dev-among-first-get-access-project-morpheus/)Dream Dev Talking to Sony About Morpheus Port (http://vrfocus.com/archives/2041/dream-dev-talking-sony-ps4-project-morpheus-port/)Private Eye Dev Wants to Bring Title to Morpheus (http://vrfocus.com/archives/2193/private-eye-dev-absolutely-wants-bring-title-ps4-morpheus/)InEvoWare to Consider Morpheus Support (http://vrfocus.com/archives/2097/xvirent-consider-playstation-4-project-morpheus-pc-development/)Infinity Runner Dev Looking to Support Morpheus (http://vrfocus.com/archives/2745/infinity-runner-hits-june-2nd-looking-support-project-morpheus/)Ethereon Dev Could Bring Title to Morpheus (http://vrfocus.com/archives/3233/ethereon-dev-vr-belongs-everyone-bring-title-ps4-morpheus/)Darknet Dev Spoke to Sony About Morpheus Port (http://vrfocus.com/archives/3218/darknet-developer-spoken-sony-ps4-port/)MyDream Dev Would Love to Develop for Morpheus (http://vrfocus.com/archives/2005/mydream-devs-love-develop-playstation-4-project-morpheus/)Radial-G Dev Obtain Morpheus Kit (http://vrfocus.com/archives/4984/radial-g-developers-obtain-project-morpheus-dev-kit/)New Sony First Party Studio VR Team (North West Studio) (http://gematsu.com/2015/05/sony-opens-new-vr-focused-first-party-studio)Just Add Water Dev Tease (http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/306924/Just+Add+Water+teases+Morpheus+title/)

 

IHS sent out an estimate to clients today that said they expect PlayStation VR to have an installed base of 1.5m by the end of 2016.

— ZhugeEX (@ZhugeEX) October 28, 2015

For PSVR the confirmed games I'm interested in are

London Heist
Driveclub
GTS
Rigs
Eve Valkyrie
Robinson
Until Dawn: Rush of Blood
Playroom
Ark
Adrift


Seems like it'll have a pretty decent lineup.

Yeah, I just hope most of those are releasing near launch

Rigs, Driveclub, Eve, Ark, and Playroom are probably day one.

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I think GearVR will absolutely crush it. The experience itself is pretty great, but most importantly it's portable and only $99. By far has the best shot at taking VR mainstream.

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I think GearVR will absolutely crush it. The experience itself is pretty great, but most importantly it's portable and only $99. By far has the best shot at taking VR mainstream.

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Originally Posted by valkillmore
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 Do those banners say 'DRIVER' and not 'DRIVECLUB'

 

Yeah. It's because we were also showing a demo called 'Passenger' where you simply sit in the passenger seat and look around. Driving at 180mph, you don't really get chance to have a good look around, so the Passenger demo encourages that. The guys at Evolution are also talking about an idea where you could download a friend's replay and watch their lap from the passenger seat.
 As it stands, there are no weather effects at all, nor a time cycle, nor mirrors, as reflections are very taxing. However, the demo has only been in development for around three months and has made spectacular progress in that time. At first, the engine could only handle one car and no trees without the framerate dropping; after three months, you can see the vast improvement.
 

From everything we hear about VR, that's just not possible at all. Or they have some magic happening.

I mean Drive Club runs at 30 fps.

This runs at 60 fps + twice the geometry to display, bigger fov, point of view changing super fact.. From what is known the cost of VR is something like 4 or 5 times the cost of a normal game. There is NO CHANCE IN HELL the games has "minimal cuts"

The past few days have been easing me about PSVR.  
I was worried about support, but so far it looks great!!!
Now I'm waiting for something Uncharted-like...  
Or Horizon-like.... :o

Why did you quote that user?

isn't gear vr already out?

That seems low.

Not really. It's definitely a conservative estimate and probably driven even more so by the uncertainty of the public reaction since this isn't easy to market. It's probably not going to be cheap, either. Don't look for VR to explode early on. This is something that will rely on word of mouth so the burn is going to be slower than, say, motion controls.

Not really. It's definitely a conservative estimate and probably driven even more so by the uncertainty of the public reaction since this isn't easy to market. It's probably not going to be cheap, either. Don't look for VR to explode early on. This is something that will rely on word of mouth so the burn is going to be slower than, say, motion controls.

VR also is so hard to market.

How the heck do you make a good commercial?

VR also is so hard to market.
How the heck do you make a good commercial?

I think people think way to much into how to market it. Just show good games, And have stands set up at every major department store. I have a feeling most people have an idea of what to expect with VR. Unless they're being cyclical about it not wanting to give it a chance for "reasons''.  Plus word of mouth is going to be huge push for VR, as it already is. It's pretty hard to find someone that's tried VR and talk shame about it.

Personally if it launches in summer, at a 300 dollar price point I can see it selling over 3 million this year. Not a rocket start but very decent.

Release in the summer, still sell 3 million this year?  :o


I think the underlined is what needs to happen.  

That... that is what I said....

A good commercial?  Doable.

A great commercial?  Impossible.  (or pretty close?)

The problem imo is that cgi and live action commercials are already really common.

They show the player physically inside the game yet everyone knows this isn't how the game actually plays. A VR commercial needs to stress that it's not marketing tricks but an accurate representation of the experience.

I'm blown away someone made this.

Sony's Ram Madhavan(developer services and support) reveals at the Unite 2015 talk. The revelation comes at the 14min 28 sec mark of the talk, and reiterates it at the 19min 48sec mark(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSwA3qFVEAEu7qa.png)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RNbZpcfAhE
 SDK's have improved on all fronts new device tracking and audio
 Lots of new info
 reducing latency
 why reprojection(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSwBX3qU8AAWx5G.png)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSwBPOQUsAAvVwO.png)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSwBIeCU8AA5l_S.png)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSwDGEQUcAAzh98.png)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSwBeZyUcAAFbw3.png)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSwBorfUcAA7_mC.png)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSwByLiUAAA2OYA.png)

So I think this is pretty important info that some/ a lot of people might have already been expecting (I know I have), the PSVR comes with its own external processing unit.

 Playstation VR comes with a powerful processing  i.e. the break out box - NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1133195)

So I think this is pretty important info that some/ a lot of people might have already been expecting (I know I have), the PSVR comes with its own external processing unit.

 Playstation VR comes with a powerful processing  i.e. the break out box - NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1133195)

That's a secrets. The hardware team have pretty much completed their work, but the software team are hard at work on those system features. That's why we are not showing the system UI or the non-VR gaming experience when you have PlayStation VR and that will come soon, in the future.

feature=youtu.be

At time = 3m21s

people on gaf think it will lead to a sub hd resolution.

Think that's mostly under the assumption that the experience will be like the OR thing for XB1.  
Which I wouldn't mind.  The thing that would bother me, is if that was the only thing available.  But having actual PSVR games and having that type of experience on the side would be novel and certainly something I would like to try out once or twice.  

VR will be huge

a fools response.

no one has the room available to do that in their house.  i'd have to spend god knows how much money to be able to run that,.. what's the cost of a new living addition?  in my neighborhood i would probably be at least $50k...  fudge that.

VR will be huge

That's around the same space Kinect wanted.

a fools response.

no one has the room available to do that in their house.  i'd have to spend god knows how much money to be able to run that,.. what's the cost of a new living addition?  in my neighborhood it would probably be at least $50k...  fudge that.

A limited number of Vives will go out next month, with a wide release to take place before March 2016. But no matter how much spit and polish you put on it, Vive will be nothing without great experiences.

Valve hasn't just spent the last three years working on Vive and SteamOS - so what is it preparing in terms of software? "Thats one of the things we're holding back to reveal more information about but there's going to be a big story and we're excited to share it," says J.B. McRee, Senior Manager of Product Marketing for virtual reality at HTC.

Could it finally be Half-Life 3's time to shine? Maybe a new Left 4 Dead? It's hardly a surprise that nobody is saying more than that despite being so close to launch - HTC wants everything about the Vive to be a surprise.

"When we made the original announcement it was a surprise to probably mostly everyone," says McRee. "For us it was really exciting because, coming from smartphones, it's always been very challenging for us to bring a product to an announcement with people not knowing about it.

"It's difficult for everyone these days. So we know the excitement that we gained from that so we're trying to make sure we can try to do those types of things again so as we start to have these announcements and things we want to talk about we want to make a big bang.

"We're exciting to tell you, believe me."

"I think it's important for the industry for people not to be too terribly competitive right now, because in order for VR to be successful everybody needs to be successful - at least in the beginning.

"So we're not going out the door with much of a competitive aspect. We're obviously thinking about those things, but it's important for the industry for everyone to be successful, for the first products that roll out to deliver on a very good VR experience. That's a big weight on our shoulders, and we're taking that very seriously."

"Even though we're designing the hardware, Valve has say in what that looks and from a performance perspective how that works," says McRee - and it works both ways.

"We're very involved. Very, very involved. And there are things we haven't really talked about from a software perspective that we're excited to share as well, that I think people will be excited to hear."

HTC still won't comment on price, but we'll tell you now that it's not going to be cheap. "We're focused on quality of experience more so than accessibility and so it's important to us we get a very good experience," says McRee.

"Whether that means the price is impacted or whether that means the minimum spec is impacted, its not going to be a decision we take lightly. That's not to say if we release the minimum spec of one thing it won't work on lesser graphics cards, but that's what we consider comfortable. It may not be accessible for everybody. Nothing is ever accessible for everybody."

http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming...ames-1309114/1

(http://i.imgur.com/8zs0qUh.png)

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The Samsung Gear VR is a Virtual Reality Headset produced and launched in a partnership between Samsung and Oculus. The Gear VR utilizes the Galaxy Note 4 or Galaxy S6/Edge as a display, CPU, and GPU. The tracking and touch input are handled by dedicated hardware inside the headset, with the hardware connecting directly to the device via the microUSB port. Software designed for the Gear VR bypasses the standard sandboxing and buffering of the Android OS via a custom kernel, allowing the content to run at a consistent 60fps and with sub 20ms latency at all times.

Developer: Samsung & OculusPrice: $99Release Date (US): 11.20.15Release Date (International): TBAWeight: 318g / 0.7lbs (without phone)Compatible Devices:

• Samsung Galaxy S6
• Samsung Galaxy S6 edge
• Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+
• Samsung Galaxy Note5

(http://i.imgur.com/aOFsL7z.png)(http://i.imgur.com/tyKZeW9.png)Where to Purchase:

• Best Buy (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-gear-vr-for-select-samsung-cell-phones-black-white/4637800.p?id=1219786370026&skuId=4637800) (Currently Out of Stock)
• Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Gear-VR-Virtual-Reality/dp/B016OFYGXQ/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1447435751&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=smamsung+gear+vr) (Currently Out of Stock)
• Samsung (http://www.samsung.com/us/explore/gear-vr/?cid=ppc-) (Currently Out of Stock)
• AT&T (https://m.att.com/shopmobile/accessories/specialty-items/samsung-gear-vr3/_jcr_content.html?referrer=)

Reviews:

• IGN (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/11/20/samsung-gear-vr-review-2)
• WIRED (http://www.wired.com/2015/11/review-samsung-gear-vr/)
• The Verge (http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/20/9768104/samsung-gear-vr-hands-on)
• USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/baig/2015/11/20/samsung-gear-vr-cool-imperfect-mid-priced-virtual-reality/76093288/)
• VentureBeat (http://venturebeat.com/2015/11/20/for-better-or-worse-consumer-virtual-reality-is-here-with-the-samsung-gearvr/)
• The Wall Street Journal (http://www.wsj.com/articles/samsung-gear-vr-review-virtual-reality-finds-its-atari-moment-1448028206)
• TechCrunch (http://techcrunch.com/2015/11/20/samsung-gear-vr/)
• Variety (http://variety.com/2015/data/news/samsungs-gear-vr-review-1201645284/)
• re/code (http://recode.net/2015/11/20/the-first-major-virtual-reality-headset-is-here-should-non-geeks-buy-it/)
• Gizmodo (http://gizmodo.com/the-100-samsung-gear-vr-is-going-to-change-everything-1732960393?trending_test_d&utm_expid=66866090-62.H_y_0o51QhmMY_tue7bevQ.4&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fgizmodo.com%2Fsearch%3Ftrending_test_d%26q%3Dsamsung%2Bgear%2Bvr)
• Phys.Org (http://phys.org/news/2015-11-samsung-gear-vr-vrtoday.html)
• Polygon (http://www.polygon.com/2015/11/20/9760660/gear-vr-review)

Key Specs:(http://i.imgur.com/8f6R6Md.png)Compatible Controllers:Samsung El-GP20 Gamepad (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Accessory-Organizer-SmartPhones-Packaging/dp/B00FP825JQ) (Temporarily Out of Stock)

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(http://images.samsung.com/is/image/samsung/uk_EI-GP20HNBEGWW_000053586_Front_black?$TM-Gallery$)

 

Moga Pro (http://www.amazon.com/POWER-MOGA-Pro-Electronic-Games-Game/dp/B00FB5RBJM/ref=pd_sim_147_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=41fFpK%2BLwOL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR151%2C160_&refRID=1DCJY8FF1FTDQW15QK1D)

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(http://www.techylabs.com/wp-content/uploads/power_a_moga_pro_power_bluetooth_game_controller_with_backup_battery_2.jpg)

 

SteelSeries (for Android) (http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Wireless-Controller-Bluetooth-Tablets/dp/B009AOFNU4/ref=pd_sim_147_5?ie=UTF8&dpID=41ZVIQbk0sL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=15F4JHYJAV3XVXEPJFMD)

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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81f6wzyIOwL._SL1500_.jpg)

 

Steel Series Stratus XL (http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Stratus-Bluetooth-Wireless-Controller/dp/B015WKY3IM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1448035125&sr=8-2&keywords=steel+series+stratus+xl)

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(http://cdn02.androidauthority.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/SteelSeries-Stratus-XL-2-840x473.jpg)

 

Note: There are other bluetooth controllers that might work for this device. These are the ones cited by Samsung's support page. Use others at your own risk.Notable Games:Lands End (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCoR35sXM2w)

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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XwJ9fiH2Ksw/maxresdefault.jpg)

 

Eve - Gunjack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF2aruO5jAY)

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(http://data-reality.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/gunjack_2.jpg)

 

Smash Hit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBhKoJ_Bmlg)

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(https://lh3.ggpht.com/RpILwPGO6CYdcWtgSeYqEkYmBuPblUYORsPqGi9kLzjAdgPuUHTtuGsJZZDzIVP5ULI=h900)

 

Dead Secret (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da4tG1NrE1Y)

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Mortal Blitz (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0vgVydyu-4)

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Anshar Wars (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpXOpPBm6Bc)

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Bandit Six Salvo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA6JcVrazuU)

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Bazaar (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmnJ6qRao0s)

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Faceted Flight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK1g4oPPkP4)

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Ocean Rift (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBjsAXDsBB4)

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Atop the Wizards Tower (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQftOTLFfus)

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Viral (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlJ2zeBJF1I)

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Oculus Arcade (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwJCuihwW44)

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Games Purchasable inside Oculus Arcade:

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Bandai Namco

• Pacman (1980)
• Galaga (1981)

Midway

• APB (1987)
• Defender (1981)
• Joust (1982)
• Gauntlet (1985)
• Gauntlet II (1986)
• Rampage (1986)
• Root Beer Tapper (1983)
• Spy Hunter (1983)

Sega

• Altered Beast (1988)
• Golden Axe (1989)
• Phantasy Star II (1989)
• Shinobi III (1993)
• Sonic the Hedgehog (1991)
• Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (1992)
• Sonic Spinball (1993)
• Streets of Rage (1991)
• Streets of Rage 2 (1992)
• Virtua Fighter 2 (1994)
• Ecco the Dolphin (1992)

Notable Applications:

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MilkVR (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXt9DO_wJlM)

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Jurassic World Experience (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEKjamS9cTs)

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theBluVR (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWF6JtVbPrA)

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Oculus 360 Tours (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_ifgJqLqTY)

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Colosse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc5NBf7mxl8)

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Circle of Life - The Lion King (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T57kzGQGto)

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F.A.Q:

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What is the main difference between the Innovator Edition and the Consumer Edition?

 

The new Gear VR is 19% lighter than the previous Innovator Edition and features improved ergonomics plus a completely redesigned touchpad for easier navigation.

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Are all apps going to be cross compatible with the Innovator Edition and the Consumer Edition?

 

Sort of. If you were using an S6 as the base phone for the Innovator Edition you will probably be fine. The Note4 is another story.

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What is the best gaming controller for the Gear VR?

 

Personally I suggest the Moga Pro (http://www.amazon.com/POWER-MOGA-Pro-Electronic-Games-Game/dp/B00FB5RBJM/ref=pd_sim_147_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=41fFpK%2BLwOL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR151%2C160_&refRID=1DCJY8FF1FTDQW15QK1D).

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Does the new Gear VR support the Samsung Galaxy S6 Active?

 

No.

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Is there VR bad stuff available for my Samsung Gear VR?

 

Yes.

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Where can I find the VR bad stuff available for my Samsung Gear VR?

 

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^Nice. I want to try it.

OT:
Is it me or does this vid smell like an ad lol?

Yeah lol even if the reactions are real, the music takes it over the top.

"Future is here?"

lol

Success!

Samsung Gear VR Sold Out Online At Amazon And Best Buy | Rebooti (http://rebooti.com/2015/11/samsung-gear-vr-sold-out-online-at-amazon-and-best-buy/)

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Look what I found when I was in Target today.

(http://i.imgur.com/b0MtKxi.png)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgvRh2qJWIQ vr is in stable condition after the attack
 

(http://gamewires.com/Images/Posts/19987_banner.jpg)
 Distance write up @ PS BlogPsychonauts: In The Rhombus of Ruin. (https://youtu.be/I7r2ZI7dPsY)Golem (https://youtu.be/0KJJxsejNxI)Modern Zombie Taxi Co. (https://youtu.be/0c0kdIFijtg)ACE COMBAT 7 (https://youtu.be/_zuBSUJfpBk)100 FOOT TALL ROBOT GOLF (https://youtu.be/ueyG-NlXKAM)Job Simulator (https://youtu.be/0NoZXG2ZWVo)Eagle Flight (https://youtu.be/2sDxGdxR0IQ)REZ Infinite (https://youtu.be/iNVMvsr-Dp8)
 Let me know what I missed.
 

Searched and found nothing, close if old. From the Overclockers forum:

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Hello OCUK!
 We at NVIDIA are hosting a very special VR event with HTC Vive on December 8th in London and we’d like to invite you and a friend to come and take a journey into a whole new world!
 You may have experienced gaming in VR, but we’d like to show you a wider experience: explore the galaxy, polish your art skills and even get ready to be led on a once in a lifetime trip… (plus a few other things…)
 NVIDIA GPUs are powering next generation virtual reality games and apps, and we invite you to get hands on with the latest VR experiences.
 If you (plus a friend) would like to join us. Leave a post with the answer to the question below:
 --- If you could have ONE game re-made for VR what would it be? ---
 We’ll pick 1 winner on 4/12/15! See you there!
 Terms and Conditions
 •   UK residents only
 •   Closing date: 4/12/15
 •   Winners contacted/announced: 4/12/15
 •   Winners must be available to travel to London 8/12/15
 •   Travel costs not included.

 

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sh...php?t=18705601 (https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18705601)
 Poster in question is an Nvidia rep. At first it was just announced to be an Nvidia event but he edited the post to include HTC recently. Given the date and the previous info of a Vive announcement on the 8th I'd say this is a good indication for release info, final consumer version shown, and possibly pre-orders opening up.
 

IHS has predicted just 2.5m VR headsets will be sold next year, with PlayStation leading rivals such as Oculus and HTC's Vive.

"I don't think those kinds of volumes would be either unrealistic or a disappointment," Mr House said.

Will do, sir.https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comm...6rid?context=3 (https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/3vl7qe/palmer_luckey_on_twitterfun_fact_nintendo_doesnt/cxr6rid?context=3)

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(-)palmerluckeyFounder, Oculus VR 76 points 8 hours ago  If customers buy a game from us, I don't care if they mod it to run on whatever they want. As I have said a million times (and counter to the current circlejerk), our goal is not to profit by locking people to only our hardware - if it was, why in the world would we be supporting GearVR and talking with other headset makers? The software we create through Oculus Studios (using a mix of internal and external developers) are exclusive to the Oculus platform, not the Rift itself. The issue is people who expect us to officially support all headsets on a platform level with some kind of universal Oculus SDK, which is not going to happen anytime soon. We do want to work with other hardware vendors, but not at the expense of our own launch, and certainly not in a way that leads to developing for the lowest common denominator - there are a lot of shaming headsets coming, a handful of good ones, and a handful that may never even hit the market. Keep in mind that support for the good ones requires cooperation from both parties, which is sometimes impossible for reasons outside our control. On another note, I disagree with most of your post, and I think you are either misunderstanding or misrepresenting several important points, but that does not change my answer.

 

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(-)ficarra1002 9 points 6 hours ago*  So what you're saying, is games you have funded could be ported to other hardware, just not sold in different storefronts? THIS is the right way to do it. As in, no contracts regarding exclusivity exist? If Rock Band devs later decide to port to SteamVR, they are welcome to?

 

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(-)palmerluckeyFounder, Oculus VR 37 points 6 hours ago  Exactly. This is nothing new, it is exactly what we have been saying for years: http://www.roadtovr.com/news-bits-oc...ses-ourselves/ (http://www.roadtovr.com/news-bits-oculus-vrs-brendan-iribe-going-sell-1-billion-pairs-glasses-ourselves/) "Only on Oculus" does not mean "Only on Rift". If it did, we would not be using the same line for both Rift and GearVR, the two headsets our store and platform currently support.

 

Something is going on in London today with the vive, I hope we hear price and date.  But I'd guess not.

It looks like nothing of note came out from the event.

NeoGAF - View Single Post -  Palmer Luckey: "People are free to mod Oculus exclusive for other headsets" (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188397743&postcount=1)
 

Sony Showcased Improved PlayStation VR Display at PSX 2015 - VRFocus (http://vrfocus.com/archives/26332/sony-showcased-improved-playstation-vr-display-at-psx-2015/)

I guess this explains why we didn't get a price announcement during PSX.

Yeah the screens at Paris were the final design, but they had a mixup with manufacturing. Current ones are essentially final.

Also: PlayStation VR Cable Features Power, Volume, Mic Controls, First Images Revealed - VRFocus (http://vrfocus.com/archives/26141/playstation-vr-cable-features-power-volume-mic-controls-first-images-revealed/)

"MIC CONTROLS"

No one seems to notice or care, but this article seems like it's alluding that the PSVR headset has a built in microphone.

Yeah the screens at Paris were the final design, but they had a mixup with manufacturing. Current ones are essentially final.

Also: PlayStation VR Cable Features Power, Volume, Mic Controls, First Images Revealed - VRFocus (http://vrfocus.com/archives/26141/playstation-vr-cable-features-power-volume-mic-controls-first-images-revealed/)

"MIC CONTROLS"

No one seems to notice or care, but this article seems like it's alluding that the PSVR headset has a built in microphone.

I hope it's a good quality mic.

Ooh, mic controls in VR sounds really cool :O

Oculus is teaming up with developer CCP Games to give all customers who pre-order its upcoming VR platform a copy of Eve: Valkyrie (http://www.polygon.com/game/eve-valkyrie/14592) at launch, the company announced today in a press release.

Here are IHS predictions for VR install base by end of 2016- PS VR: 1500k Oculus: 560k Vive: 440k Gear VR: 1500k Cardboard: 2100k

— ZhugeEX (@ZhugeEX) December 13, 2015

Not that this actually means anything
But hey, I'm sharing.  

Here are IHS predictions for VR install base by end of 2016- PS VR: 1500k Oculus: 560k Vive: 440k Gear VR: 1500k Cardboard: 2100k

— ZhugeEX (@ZhugeEX) December 13, 2015

I really hope someone gets PSVR to work on PC.  

It's an hdmi device.  I'm sure someone will work on the drivers.

And then we need to get PS Move support.  :D

And then we need to get PS Move support.  :D

Well that would be harder because the new eye uses a stupid connection that won't fit anything else.

I wish there was a magical deal that was buy 1 VR headset get another free.  

Really not sure if I should get PSVR or a PC set.  :P

I'm not sure what you should do either. But i was looking at a photo of the new break out box and it isn't looking good for pc plug and play.

(http://vrfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/PSVRCable4.jpg)

Look at the wire leading to the box. It doesn't look like an hdmi connection. Not saying someone couldn't get the box to work with pc as well it just doesn't look promising.

There's like 4 cables.  
Think this was the older box, but I expect it to be much the same, cable wise.  
(http://abload.de/img/gdc-sony-project-morproqqy.jpg)

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Originally Posted by onken
  (http://vizioneck.com/forum/showthread.php?p=189504692#post189504692)
 

 
 I wonder what the screen door effect is like.. it was pretty bad on the Occulus DK2 I tried.

 

I've played around with an Oculus DK2 at a friend's place as well as PSVR at PSX earlier in the month. I never noticed any screen door effect on PSVR, tbh. I played 6 different games during that time.
 

NeoGAF - View Single Post -  We've seen the retail PlayStation VR headset and it's SPECTACULAR (POLYGON) (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189504974&postcount=175)
I've played around with an Oculus DK2 at a friend's place as well as PSVR at PSX earlier in the month. I never noticed any screen door effect on PSVR, tbh. I played 6 different games during that time.
 

Images of 2nd HTC Vive Headset and New Controllers Leaked - IGN (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/12/18/images-of-2nd-htc-vive-headset-and-new-controllers-leaked?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ign%2Fall+%28IGN+All%29)

New version leaked!

(http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2015/12/18/htc-vive-dev-kit-2-with-controllersjpg-0d6da9_640w.jpg)

Did it always have a camera on it?  

Images of 2nd HTC Vive Headset and New Controllers Leaked - IGN (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/12/18/images-of-2nd-htc-vive-headset-and-new-controllers-leaked?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ign%2Fall+%28IGN+All%29)

New version leaked!

(http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2015/12/18/htc-vive-dev-kit-2-with-controllersjpg-0d6da9_640w.jpg)

Did it always have a camera on it?  

HTC Vive to demo a 'very big' breakthrough in VR at CES (http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/18/htc-vive-vr-big-breakthrough-ces/)

Vive delayed to technological  break through. Thought to be so great that they deiced not to ship with out it. Well find out next month at CES.

now thats interesting, i wonder what it is.

now thats interesting, i wonder what it is.

eye tracking maybe. Could have figured out a nice way to fit it in the headset.

@tru8888 @eurogamer Xbox VR pic.twitter.com/VeiSuShn0h

— berty (@bertymufc) December 22, 2015

So many people are making comments about the break out box, thinking it will add power to the PS4.

On the path to perfecting Touch, we've decided that we need more time before release, and we'll now be shipping Touch in the second half of 2016. Pre-orders will open a few months prior to launch.

Blog — Update on Oculus Touch Ship Date
 (https://www.oculus.com/en-us/blog/update-on-oculus-touch-ship-date/)

Everything is getting delayed!

Oh yeah, rift now come with eve and that rabbit game.

I forgot to post that.

2016 is the year of VR!

(until it gets delayed)

Virtual Reality | Technology | GeForce (http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/vr/technology)

Foveated rendering, noice!

Honestly I'm always blown away by how seriously companies are about VR.  Still months away, and there already looks like there's tons of support, hardware and software.

Most people don't seem to realize it.  Nvidia, AMD, Sony, Valve is doing really good work too, and supporting FreeVR, and then there's a ton of headset companies.  

Countdown to rift, yet still no price lol.

Can you sink a title count down to the on on oculus page?

Can you sink a title count down to the on on oculus page?

Is anyone watching Sonys CES keynote tomorrow in hopes of PSVR news? Looks like it'll be on during an unholy time for me.

We need a thread for that. Yeah I'll watch it!

One of the first things you'll notice about the new Vive headset is the camera mounted on the lower front of the HMD. This camera is the basis of the "breakthrough" that HTC hinted at last month. The camera is used to bring real objects into view while you're wearing the headset, though I wouldn't really call this AR per se. HTC is using this feature as an extension of the chaperone system, which is used to map the barriers of the room scale tracking area. With the camera, HTC is able to present a blue wireframe outline of the objects and even people in the room. Some of the editors at Tom's Hardware have dubbed this "Tron Mode," which actually describes what you see fairly well.

To enable this feature, you double tap the button on the controller located below the track pad. The game world will disappear, and as you approach the chaperone limits, the wireframe view of objects outside of the limits will come into view. The objects aren't very clear, but they are clear enough to identify.

I was able to identify a painting on the wall, the stands that the lighthouse trackers were attached to, and the people in the room. The details are vague to say the least, but it gives you more than enough information to interact with things without taking the headset off. The view is rather blurry, but it was good enough to make out the important details. I was even able to read my name on my press badge.

HTC's JB Mcree told us that this feature will enable you to locate your keyboard or extra peripherals, such as a wheel for racing games or HOTAS for flight simulators. You can also locate furniture with the HMD over your eyes, allowing you to transition from standing to sitting experiences without taking the Vive off. To demonstrate this feature, Mcree pulled a chair into my play area and simply told me to sit down on it. I was able to clearly make out the chair and sit on it without any trouble, which was simply not possible on the previous version of the Vive.

The new controllers feature an open ring at the top, which houses the lighthouse sensors. At first glance, the ring at the top appears as though it would enable finger tracking similar to Oculus Touch, but when we asked about it, we were told the Vive controllers don't have that ability.

The buttons on the new controllers have texture to them to make it easier to locate. The two grip pads on the sides of the controllers have been improved to be more comfortable in your hands. The trigger grips have also been updated with a dual-stage action similar to the ones found on the Steam controller.

The Vive Pre shows the world around me when I double-click a home button on the newly revamped and lighter wireless controllers (which now last 4 hours on a charge, an improvement on the older Vive hardware). But the strange night vision-meets-X-ray graphics layer isn't the same as a real camera feed -- for latency-reducing purposes, according to Valve's Chet Falisze. You can see a smaller picture-in-picture view of what the camera sees, but blown up large it feels like bizarro sonar.

It's not like the sort of virtual-enters-reality feel of augmented reality, like Microsoft's HoloLens. It's something different: the real entering the virtual.

All the Vive Pre's parts are new and refined. The controllers now seem more like something you'd buy in a real store. The room-sensing base stations that come with Vive -- laser-emitting boxes that are meant to be installed high up, like little speakers -- are smaller, compact cubes. The helmet is lighter, with refined strap design and replaceable parts for better nose and face fit that HTC calls "gaskets." The visual display has also been markedly boosted: The resolution is the same, but an engineering tweak to remove "mura" (the processing layer that dims and fades the VR image, according to HTC and Valve) resulted in much poppier, brighter, vivid colors during my brief demo.

Right now, the camera doesn't provide much beyond this boundary feature and a full "chaperone" mode, which replaces your entire environment with the camera view. It's HTC and Valve's answer to the vital question "How do you drink a glass of whiskey in VR?", and while it's a pretty good one, it's still not hugely ambitious. But the technology opens up a broader range of possibilities. Third-party developers will be able to tap into it for their own purposes, and an HTC spokesperson says that its software can map 3D space, which would let virtual objects respond to real-world ones -- similar to Microsoft's HoloLens room-scanning tech.

It's a shame that the Vive's demos don't take advantage of these possibilities, or offer much new material at all. The demo includes a handful of familiar virtual experiences, including physics game Job Simulator, the Tilt Brush 3D painting app, and undersea environment TheBluVR. There's a lot of exciting tech in the Vive, but unlike just about everyone else in virtual reality, Valve and HTC aren't putting much effort into advertising their games yet.

Eek, Vive is sounding expensive.

Please be < $500!

The new HTCE VIve Pre

(http://uploadvr.com/wp-content/uploads/bfi_thumb/HTC-Vive-Pre-1-1000x556-mkkzknazi9avkyf5nhnrp1mj0fiqelsxf3gqwufa9k.jpg)

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/htc...ook,30894.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/htc-vive-pre-first-look,30894.html)
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there's a 16 min vid at the link

http://www.cnet.com/products/htc-vive-pre/ (http://www.cnet.com/products/htc-vive-pre/)
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http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/5/107...t-kit-ces-2016 (http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/5/10714522/htc-valve-vive-pre-v2-development-kit-ces-2016)
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http://uploadvr.com/htc-vive-pre-hands-on/ (http://uploadvr.com/htc-vive-pre-hands-on/)

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Virtual Reality Expected to Generate $5.1 Billion in 2016 - IGN (http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/01/05/virtual-reality-expected-to-generate-51-billion-in-2016)

Get hyped. 3 hours!

Can't remember what site it was but they're expecting nothing less than a $500 price tag.

Can't remember what site it was but they're expecting nothing less than a $500 price tag.

Some on Gaf are saying $599

FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE U.S DOLLARS
 

630 got my preorder in

630 got my preorder in

Oculus -- Shop (https://shop.oculus.com/)

Oh I'm actually getting that page to load, it's saying $59900, yes there's no comma or point or whatever, guess that's a typo. :D

Well woopsie, I expect the PC VR hype to take somewhat of a nosedive after this. Lol.

It's already dead. Holy shame, and they thought ps3 was expensive

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Originally Posted by GeoramA
  (http://vizioneck.com/forum/showthread.php?p=191403641#post191403641)
 

 
 fudge. That's a pretty expensive start for VR.  But Sony could do their hero thing again and announce PSVR for $299.

 

Judging by the costs of Oculus, Sony would only do this if they're willing to either take a massive loss up front or sell a wildly inferior product.  AKA, it's going to be almost just as expensive.
 

I ain't believin it.  

(http://abload.de/img/watrasf1.png)

As for the eventual price: the consumer version should come in similar to what DK2 costs now. "We want to stay in that $200-$400 price range," he states. "That could slide in either direction depending on scale, pre-orders, the components we end up using, business negotiations..."

"Whatever it is," Luckey adds, "it's going to be as cheap as possible." Mitchell nods: "That's really the goal."

(http://i.imgur.com/W2kIaaY.gif)

I do have to put a tinfoil hat on here for a second though, do you think there's a chance Sony could have pulled PSVR from CEs after hearing about the Occulus pre order announcement? Maybe to check out this exact reaction to price first?

Oculus answers the big Rift questions • Eurogamer.net (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-09-01-oculus-answers-the-big-rift-questions)

2 years later, it's 3 times the lower range.  


NeoGAF - View Single Post -  Oculus Rift available for preorder for $599.99, shipping in March (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191406773&postcount=964)

That's a pretty steep price considering you'll need a somewhat beefy rig with a higher end GPU to run it effectively.

If you bought an oculus ready pc it would cost you 1600 to get into vr starting with nothing. 

The gif is from DemonNite, the guy from Sony.  

The funny thing is, at first I said that $300 would be high but something I'd pay for PSVR. Looking at the price on the Rift, $300 would be fudgy amazing.

The funny thing is, at first I said that $300 would be high but something I'd pay for PSVR. Looking at the price on the Rift, $300 would be fudgy amazing.

Well I'm sure that's not going to make people speculate. Lol

I want to see the BOM. I do not see 600 dollars. No fudgy way.

They can take that fudgy controller and stick it up their dog. That could have easily cut the price 50 bucks.  

Yeah.  What is OR thinking?  If PSVR goes at 300$ and is as good as expected, it'll do great.  
Perhaps a 300$ headset, and a 400$ bundle with camera.  
Think it is most likely that Sony is going to price it much lower.  

I thought the same thing about the controller. Let people pic theirs up. And when they announced it.... "the best controller we've found is ms Xbox One" dear God.

Don't think I can handle that right now.

I guess Palmer said they would charge when shipped. So I guess it's okay to preorder.

People on gaf with glasses.... not preorder rift because they think you can't use glasses with the rift. Even if that's true, you don't need to wear glasses. I can't see shame with out mine but I can focus a gearvr and not need them.

If sony doesn't I think vr will be dead. Right now it's reliant on a small group of people that pay this amount of money for the latest gpus and stuff like that.

I really want vr to be a thing, but right now I have my doubts and Ivery experience vr. As cool as it is it will never take off at this price.
I'd like to find a high end PC guy that doesn't already have a controller. So stupid.

near or far sighted?

Welp OR isn't going to be a success.

Guess it's up to PSVR and Vive.

lulz, vive is going to be even more expensive.  psvr is the only hope imo,.. let's see how big of a loss sony is willing to incur to grab some market share.

Near

which explains why you can see the thing without your glasses on.  for the other half of glasses wearers that are far sighted,.. having a screen 2 inches from your face makes viability the worst possible scenario.

Sony has several price advantage. A single screen, even if it does have custom pixel placements.  They make their own optics and are masters at it. They are a much larger company that can handle production required and a much lower cost.  

lulz, vive is going to be even more expensive.  psvr is the only hope imo,.. let's see how big of a loss sony is willing to incur to grab some market share.

(http://i.imgur.com/4Rf03aB.jpg)



(http://i.imgur.com/IeuTji1.png)

I kinda hope that Vive goes cheaper, just to be an in your face thing.  

(http://puu.sh/mcw08/2d3660f0c2.png)

What is CV1?

I think its red.

They are on ebay for 1500....

Are pre orders sold out?

Shop seems open to me.

He has a point though. An American company has no obligation to reduce the price of its product any further just because some European government jacks up the price like that. He should blame his government if he doesn't like it.

They seem to be. Did you actually try?

It looks like they are just pushing the preorder shipment date back.  

Not actually sold out.  

The date now says May.  

Just because people are offering it for 1500$ doesn't mean they are actually going to be sold for that price.  

Lol, are you seriously acting as if customs duty is somehow exclusive to europe and that governments are just "jacking" up prices for fun or out of greed or something?

are you seriously acting as if taxes in europe are a lot higher than elsewhere?  VAT is what,.. 20%?  in the USA it would be more like 5%.  that "jacks" up the price a lot.

Yeah its 20% here. Although that is always included in prices

It looks like they are just pushing the preorder shipment date back.  

Not actually sold out.  

The date now says May.  

Just because people are offering it for 1500$ doesn't mean they are actually going to be sold for that price.  

are you seriously acting as if taxes in europe are a lot higher than elsewhere?  VAT is what,.. 20%?  in the USA it would be more like 5%.  that "jacks" up the price a lot.

No, actually I'm not. What I'm saying is that these taxes aren't just charged willy-nilly without reason.

He never said it happens for no reason.  
But those countries do very different things, and thus have different demands.  So it's not unexpected that the prices will be different, because for example taxes are very different.  

European countries typically have far higher sales taxes, and they also include it in the prices.  US doesn't do that.  

Appearance price.  
US - 100$
EU - 120$

Actual price
US - 105$
EU - 120$

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1533/23589944084_16a1e25138_k.jpg)

For those that don't about ebay. Green means that the transaction is compete. A.K.A people are buying them for 1500.

basically this.

it's a personal pet peeve when european guys complain about how much things cost there.  oh sure,. the ps4 cost you $50 more but my family pays almost a thousand dollars a month for health insurance.   how much do you pay for that!?!?

CEO Of Oculus said this back in 2013...... pic.twitter.com/86KVYQyYid

— ZhugeEX (@ZhugeEX) January 6, 2016

CEO Of Oculus said this back in 2013...... pic.twitter.com/86KVYQyYid

— ZhugeEX (@ZhugeEX) January 6, 2016

Wonder how many they sold.

Could we all be wrong, and the $600 cost isn't deterring their target demographic?

Pretty big difference between the US not being able to get its freaking healthcare system in order and a company, that is backed by Facebook in case anybody's forgotten, ignoring what is pretty much the norm in the games industry while on top of that also using a completely awful international shipping system which adds another stupid extra cost. Why didn't they simply make a deal with Amazon in the countries that they intend to sell these in?

Sure you could say that they don't have to do any of that, but people in Europe also don't have to buy the Oculus and at this price you can be certain that they won't, so if they expect to have any chance at getting a foothold in Europe then they can't expect people to pay 750€ for this when the PSVR will probably be at least 250€ cheaper.

The fact is an American company should not have to incur even heavier losses on a product just because a European government charges that much more in taxes. How much money would Sony have lost in Brazil to keep the PS4 price at $400 there? Because I seem to recall it being two or three times more expensive there at launch. Foreign companies don't owe Europeans anything just because they live in a system that charges high tax rates on luxury goods to pay for their national healthcare or whatever other social system needs it. That's the price you pay for it. I'm not really surprised here. Seen plenty of Europeans on the internet who act like they deserve "free healthcare" AND affordable luxury items without giving a dang whose wallet takes a hit for it as long as it isn't theirs. His complaint is misguided. If the taxes on luxury items sucks that bad and he doesn't like it then he should try to motion for change. Not guilt a foreign company into lowering its price even further just so he can enjoy the fruits of a European social system while paying the same or close to the same luxury costs as a country that doesn't use such a system.

Also, I don't think many Americans will buy at that $600 cost anyways so whether or not Europeans do at theirs is a bit of a moot point. It's not going to sell that well anywhere.

Please know that I am not attacking anyone here or Europeans in general. I just don't have much patience for people like that guy who attacked the Rift because "Boohoo my country's taxes suck so it's up to YOU to do something about it".

follow-up.  

i ended up in the hospital a week or so ago with extreme dehydration after puking for a day.  3 liters of fluids via and IV.  
got my bill today: $3388 dollars.

follow-up.  

i ended up in the hospital a week or so ago with extreme dehydration after puking for a day.  3 liters of fluids via and IV.  
got my bill today: $3388 dollars.

That is absolutely ridiculous...

Anyone else thinking vive might actually be cheaper?

The American medical system is such a ripoff. It's incredibly overpriced even for a country that doesn't have national healthcare. I had a migraine and wanted to leave work for the day. Boss told me I had to go to the hospital and get a note from the doctor saying I needed it. Yeah, that alone was battleship. Anyways, I spent a total of an hour in the emergency room. The doctor came in, didn't even talk to me for 10 minutes, told me what I already fudgy knew about migraines, and walked out. The nurse gave me two pills and told me to go home. What was my bill? One thousand fudgy dollars. Breaking it down... the sub-10 minute doctor "consultation" was $250. The pills? $3 combined. The remaining $750 on the bill was a bunch of jargon that could basically be summed up as "administrative costs". They asked me a couple questions, wrote down some information on a couple papers, handed me pills, interacted with me for maybe half the time I was there, and charged me over SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS with a dang smile.

I should have gone back and demanded the dang devil's flute I was apparently supposed to get.

Anyone else thinking vive might actually be cheaper?

Woah there buddy... Why the ER first off? Second, fudge your boss. Sue him.

I just walked in. Fastest way to get any help at that dang hospital. It was also really early in the morning. No one else around, really. This was years ago. I got let go from that job about 3 months after I was told directly by the president of the company that my job was secure. Of course, this was before she found out that I was working full time, which I had been for well over a year because it was fudgy required by her husband (former president turned vice president so they could get a tax break for a woman being in charge), and I began asking for vacation time and benefits.

I just walked in. Fastest way to get any help at that dang hospital. It was also really early in the morning. No one else around, really. This was years ago. I got let go from that job about 3 months after I was told directly by the president of the company that my job was secure. Of course, this was before she found out that I was working full time, which I had been for well over a year because it was fudgy required by her husband (former president turned vice president so they could get a tax break for a woman being in charge), and I began asking for vacation time and benefits.

Your physician? Walgreens clinic? A emergency care facility (non er) would all be much cheaper (50 dollar Co pay)

The fact is an American company should not have to incur even heavier losses on a product just because a European government charges that much more in taxes. How much money would Sony have lost in Brazil to keep the PS4 price at $400 there? Because I seem to recall it being two or three times more expensive there at launch. Foreign companies don't owe Europeans anything just because they live in a system that charges high tax rates on luxury goods to pay for their national healthcare or whatever other social system needs it. That's the price you pay for it. I'm not really surprised here. Seen plenty of Europeans on the internet who act like they deserve "free healthcare" AND affordable luxury items without giving a dang whose wallet takes a hit for it as long as it isn't theirs. His complaint is misguided. If the taxes on luxury items sucks that bad and he doesn't like it then he should try to motion for change. Not guilt a foreign company into lowering its price even further just so he can enjoy the fruits of a European social system while paying the same or close to the same luxury costs as a country that doesn't use such a system.

Also, I don't think many Americans will buy at that $600 cost anyways so whether or not Europeans do at theirs is a bit of a moot point. It's not going to sell that well anywhere.

Please know that I am not attacking anyone here or Europeans in general. I just don't have much patience for people like that guy who attacked the Rift because "Boohoo my country's taxes suck so it's up to YOU to do something about it".

The problem is that Oculus adds 27% to the price of the Rift to all European countries (without shipping), do you know how many countries in the EU have 27% VAT? One and it's fudgy Hungary, every other country has lower tax rates, here in germany for instance the Oculus would be 656€ if you applied the actual local tax rate, but no they are jacking up the price because of a country whose population makes up less than 5% of Europe. So nope, sorry germans don't have to blame their own government here but Oculus.

Edit: Oh and since this thread has somehow devloved into a conversation about healthcare: I pay about 90€ a month for health insurance, that pretty much covers me.

It's not the cost of issurence it's the cost of care.

Both my wife and the twins spent two months in the hospital for a grand total of 220,000 dollars.

Lets me give a little example of abuse by the hospitals for charging to much for care.

The medicine cost which consisted of Ibuprofen and a prescription that cost us 10 bucks at walmart. 8,500. WFT?

The problem is that Oculus adds 27% to the price of the Rift to all European countries (without shipping), do you know how many countries in the EU have 27% VAT? One and it's fudgy Hungary, every other country has lower tax rates, here in germany for instance the Oculus would be 656€ if you applied the actual local tax rate, but no they are jacking up the price because of a country whose population makes up less than 5% of Europe. So nope, sorry germans don't have to blame their own government here but Oculus.

Edit: Oh and since this thread has somehow devloved into a conversation about healthcare: I pay about 90€ a month for health insurance, that pretty much covers me.

Currently shipping in June....  
I really have to wonder if they are selling well, or if they aren't making many.  Or both.  

It makes sense not to make many.  They don't know how successful it'll be, and they wouldn't want to make a lot of stock, considering the cost.  

I think they are selling pretty well. It's not going to light the world on fire but they are getting them out in the wild and that's what's important.  100K a month, maybe?

Quote

Originally Posted by the-1/2 tau-guy
  (http://vizioneck.com/forum/showthread.php?p=191511147#post191511147)
 

 
 Sony isn't going to allow a bad stuff app on their system, so the only hope is the web browser.
 You don't have to download anything.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddVqA3rKIZA
 Youtube already has working 360 videos, that you can move around.  It shouldn't be too hard to modify these types of things for VR.

 

That video needs a VR specific app to be viewed with an HMD.
 

100k a month at a $600 price tag for unproven tech requiring a beefy rig? You're incredibly optimistic.

(http://thenextweb.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2016/01/The-Oculus-Rift-comes-with-a-Remote-sensor-Xbox-One-controller-and-carrying-case.jpg)

So I've been thinking about this all morning. After feeling like I got kicked in the nuts yesterday.  The price for what you get isn't bad. Not bad at all. But the real question is, did we need everything we got?

Other besides the head set you get a high end set of headphones and a nice mic, a tracking camera and stand , xbox one controller, the OR remote, case, cables,  eve and lucky tail. It's a complete package. And that nice but not everyone needs everything.

And Palmer has said on twitter that the controller didn't cost much and wouldn't change the price much if they didn't include it and to sell it if you didn't need it.

Yeah pack ins are cheap ways for a company to help justify the cost. Removing them would shave off only like $50 probably.

Palmer Luckey did a reddit AMA on the price and he did come across as genuine that $600 is close to cost. So three things are possible.

1. They didn't like Vive beating them, so they pushed hard to make CV1 as good as possible. Price jump over DK2 might be worth it.
2. They designed the CV1 as a mass produced product unlike the DKs, but a long the way they screwed up and opted for custom parts with minimul gain. CV1 is a bit better than DK2, but it costs a lot more to make.
3. They're lying and spinning the truth, trying to calm the fires. CV1 being sold for a significant profit.

We really need the specs of this thing!

They have talked specs?

We could have shipped something along the lines of DK2, but I really don't think it would have been good enough to kickstart the consumer VR industry, especially in the long run. It would also cost more than people think - Shipping a real consumer product is more complex than janking out a dev kit, even something nearly identical to DK2 would have ended up costing $400+

That doesn't seem accurate...

Like at all...

That doesn't seem accurate...

Like at all...

That sounds great!

Maybe I will get OR over Vive.

I think you should. That way we can play eve and elite

I don't think there will be a large amount of exclusive software per headset, plus Elite already has official vive support.

I think you should. That way we can play eve and elite

That sounds great!
Maybe I will get OR over Vive.

Well Oculus says my processor isn't good enough for the rift. Apparently single core speed is more important for the rift. But I really don't understand it. I crush FPS in most games. The only thing that even slows my system to 60 fps is the witcher 3 on ultra. Can anyone think why my cpu wouldn't be okay?  really don't want to upgrade to intel.

Think even if there are exclusives, there will be ways around it.  
Sounds like OR made a good headset.  
Dat price though.  :P
What CPU do you have?  

fx 8320e

and I had to order a usb 3.0 card. There was something wrong with mine according to oculus.
Have you guys run the system to check to see if you compatable?

Yeah, 100%.  

There is something about OR using USB 3.0.
Think it was saying something about 2 or 3 ports even, maybe I'm mistaken.  

I'm trying not to buy an i5/i7 and a new MB .  :-\

IBT: What's the relationship between Oculus and Sony like?

Luckey: I knew some people at Sony working on VR before I even started my Kickstarter campaign actually, and we brought them in early on to show them what we were working on, to talk about what the minimum standards were for a good VR experience. What does it take to make something that won't make people uncomfortable and won't turn people off of virtual reality?

IBT: Sony appears to be best poised to challenge the Rift with the PlayStation VR, which works with the PlayStation 4.

Luckey: That might be true. I think that there's not many people who already own a PS4 who don't own a gaming PC who are going to go out and make that roughly $1500 all-in investment in the Rift. It really is a separate market. They're bringing virtual reality to a different group of people who I don't think where ever really a part of our market anyway.

It's also worth noting that their headset isn't quite as high-end as ours -- it's still, I think, a good headset -- and the PlayStation 4 is not nearly as powerful as our recommended spec for a PC.

Expected.  
Also you can hit the little paper button in the top corner before pasting, and you can avoid the gigantic font, or weird font, etc.  

http://www.ibtimes.com/oculus-vr-fou...ion-vr-2256011 (http://www.ibtimes.com/oculus-vr-founder-defends-rift-price-tag-speaks-kindly-sort-about-sony-playstation-vr-2256011)

IBT: What's the relationship between Oculus and Sony like?

Luckey: I knew some people at Sony working on VR before I even started my Kickstarter campaign actually, and we brought them in early on to show them what we were working on, to talk about what the minimum standards were for a good VR experience. What does it take to make something that won't make people uncomfortable and won't turn people off of virtual reality?

IBT: Sony appears to be best poised to challenge the Rift with the PlayStation VR, which works with the PlayStation 4.

Luckey: That might be true. I think that there's not many people who already own a PS4 who don't own a gaming PC who are going to go out and make that roughly $1500 all-in investment in the Rift. It really is a separate market. They're bringing virtual reality to a different group of people who I don't think where ever really a part of our market anyway.

It's also worth noting that their headset isn't quite as high-end as ours -- it's still, I think, a good headset -- and the PlayStation 4 is not nearly as powerful as our recommended spec for a PC.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1559/23627265614_d099f57423_b.jpg)

Single card test....
F U!!! I like gigantic text!  ;D

I was on my phone while the pc was running my Single GPU test.

http://www.ibtimes.com/oculus-vr-fou...ion-vr-2256011 (http://www.ibtimes.com/oculus-vr-founder-defends-rift-price-tag-speaks-kindly-sort-about-sony-playstation-vr-2256011)


Luckey: That might be true. I think that there's not many people who already own a PS4 who don't own a gaming PC who are going to go out and make that roughly $1500 all-in investment in the Rift. It really is a separate market. They're bringing virtual reality to a different group of people who I don't think where ever really a part of our market anyway.

Apparently about 100 ORs are made an hour.  

Also the Vive Pre is almost exactly what I wanted it to be.  

Apparently about 100 ORs are made an hour.  

Also the Vive Pre is almost exactly what I wanted it to be.  

that would be ~73,000 a month or 876,000 a year.

if that's true then i can see why shipments have sold out and even it if remains sold out for a year,.. less than a million in the first year isn't at all impressive even if it "meets or exceeds expectations".

Explain.

I thought they would be able to make a 100k a month. I guess I wasn't that far off. And they probably could up their speed a bit. But they are still a small company even if facebook owns them. Their manafacturing abilities are going to be hindered because of that fact.

The camera being included was always very important to my idea of what a VR headset should have, either on the headset or separately.  
A lot of people complain about being excluded from the world, which is important to consider.  

If someone has dogs and babies crawling around, it's a bit more comforting for the headset to be able to let the player know.  


About what I thought they would be doing too.  

Yeah, It's a great addition but screen door keep getting brought up and it is an immersion killer. It's still the number one thing i notice when using the Gear Vr. Resolution really doesn't matter that much, but artifacts and the screen door kills it. It's still cool. but it does pull you out of the "moment".

Agreed, but I like that someone at least tried that direction. Even if they are behind in other aspects, the camera itself is important I think.  

Oculus really made their newest headset really nice.  
The reviews make it sound almost perfect, and in many respects better than the Vive.  

I just tried the CES Rift CV1 demos : oculus (https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/3zsa69/i_just_tried_the_ces_rift_cv1_demos/)
I thought they would be able to make a 100k a month. I guess I wasn't that far off. And they probably could up their speed a bit. But they are still a small company even if facebook owns them. Their manafacturing abilities are going to be hindered because of that fact.

I thought you were talking about sales. Not unit sales. Both? Pickle? 42?

I thought you were talking about sales. Not unit sales. Both? Pickle? 42?

Wireless adapter is included with controller, forgot to mention in blog posts.  Have at it, press people!

— Palmer Luckey (@PalmerLuckey) January 6, 2016

Wireless adapter is included with controller, forgot to mention in blog posts.  Have at it, press people!

— Palmer Luckey (@PalmerLuckey) January 6, 2016

I did not know that.  Add more to the list of stuff you get when you buy CV1

The camera being included was always very important to my idea of what a VR headset should have, either on the headset or separately.   
A lot of people complain about being excluded from the world, which is important to consider. 

If someone has dogs and babies crawling around, it's a bit more comforting for the headset to be able to let the player know. 

What's with the remote some people mentioned?

It includes XBO and a media remote?

yeah but having the external world mapped into the virtual world is, imo, a huge immersion killer.   clearly i haven't been in a vive myself but the videos they have shown looked really annoying to me.

- the guardian system interupts your VR world which by definition break immersion.
+ the external world is only wireframed in so small details are sure to be lost
+ it is still wired,.. i'm not going to be able to have anyone manage that cord while i play to ensure i don't trip or strangle myself
+ i still don't have a furniture less room of any decent size  i'm willing to dedicate to VR
+ is it really going to be that much better for games?  i mean,.. will all vive games have to take place in an immersive world that is only 15x15 feet or less?  that's a bit less restrictive that having to sit down but still,.. you're playing a sword game have having a great time swinging your sword around battling some demon you go in for the final blow but oh wait,.. top.  back off you're about to hit a wall now...  

i get the appeal of being able to walk around but it just really isn't practical in the current scenario.  it will never be as fun as you think it will be after you finish the first couple of tech demos.  no "real" game is going to be able to use that "chaperon" aspect and still design a fun gameplay experience that lasts more than a few minutes.

not sure what phrase will get coined but vive's chaperon will be limited to a a small walled-garden that will feel is lifeless and limited as a rail-shooters do today.  you want the true open-world sandbox and all you'll get is a sandbox.

will all vive games have to take place in an immersive world that is only 15x15 feet or less?

They don't "have" to.  
Unless something changes, Vive will be compatible with all OR experiences.  (Even "OR exclusives" should be modifiable to support Vive.)

That's also not really the purpose of the camera.  I'd honestly be content with playing something with Skyrim, and standing up (without physically walking around)  and being able to slice bad guys virtually.

Also what Tacos said is correct.  It absolutely works.  I'm still not sure how well it works, but far better than one would expect.  

There's this gif of the real world walking vs. virtual world, and it is fairly impressive.  The real world mostly stays in the middle circle, despite the virtual world being much much bigger.

(http://i.imgur.com/bIaO2VF.gif)

The middle circle though is still gigantic, it's about 20m.  It's much smaller than the virtual world, but still much much much bigger than anything we'll see indoors.

I do wonder if there is something that can be done to make it much smaller.  

20 m is absolutely massive.  Subtracting my couch and tv stand I have 5x7 feet available to stand/walk in my game room with is actually quite a bit bigger than in my condo which was about 3.5x4 feet.

Thanks for agreeing with me.  

that would be ~73,000 a month or 876,000 a year.

if that's true then i can see why shipments have sold out and even it if remains sold out for a year,.. less than a million in the first year isn't at all impressive even if it "meets or exceeds expectations".

Btw. maybe I just missed this but I didn't know that Vizioneck was rumoured to be VR compatible.

That'siif we assume production 24 hours a day. Is that normal?

It depends. Many do others don't.  

Someone tweet Palmer and ask him if production is running around the clock.

Diggin this quote from a Time reporter that tried CV1 at CES:

Quote

But the VR experience that moved me to tears was Toy Box on Oculus Rift. A virtual sandbox where you can play with all kinds of toys, this game lets two players interact in the same virtual space simultaneously. Each player wears their own Oculus Rift headset and headphones, with a controller in both hands. From there, anything goes: You can take target practice with a laser gun, get in a firefight with one another’s toy tanks, or pull apart a robot doll and wear its parts.
 Then my playmate, Erin, shot me with a shrink ray. Suddenly, not only were all the toys enormous to me, but Erin’s avatar was looming over me like a hulking giant. Her voice even changed as it poured through my headphones, entering my head with a deep, slow tone. And for a moment, I was a child again, with this giant person lovingly playing with me. It gave me such a profound perspective on what it must be like to be my son, that I started to cry inside the headset. It was a pure and beautiful experience that will reshape my relationship with him moving forward. I was vulnerable to my giant playmate, yet felt completely safe.

 

http://time.com/4172998/virtual-real...-htc-vive-ces/ (http://time.com/4172998/virtual-reality-oculus-rift-htc-vive-ces/)
 

Don't think it's a question we could ask.  The 100 units comment sounded like it wasn't really something they should have shared.  

Posting this to watch later.

Getting a lot of news about VR stuff, it&#39;s very exciting. &nbsp;<br><br>I wonder if we&#39;ll get info on StarVR (ever)! &nbsp;

Did you type this message with your face?

HTC Shows Vive Pre Working Great for Seated VR at CES https://t.co/5wKmnwP5qt @HTCVive pic.twitter.com/8gIfleb1Dk

— Road to VR (@RtoVR) January 9, 2016

HTC Shows Vive Pre Working Great for Seated VR at CES https://t.co/5wKmnwP5qt @HTCVive pic.twitter.com/8gIfleb1Dk

— Road to VR (@RtoVR) January 9, 2016

HTC Shows Vive Pre Working Great for Seated VR at CES https://t.co/5wKmnwP5qt @HTCVive pic.twitter.com/8gIfleb1Dk

— Road to VR (@RtoVR) January 9, 2016

I recognize that game!

That'siif we assume production 24 hours a day. Is that normal?

Extremely awkward and shaming interview.

That seemed an unusually good interview to me. No battleship

Got my USB 3.0 card intoday. And Ran the test again, I still get a yellow warning system basically saying some of my ports would not work. I'd assume it's talking about the old ones. Now Just to do something about the processor.... Maybe...

Will Someone post on gaf asking if anyone with an amd processor passed the oculus test and if so which one?

Dude, stop worrying about your CPU.  

I'm freaking out over here...

To tell you the truth it would be some much better just to wait on PSVR and have whatever that offers. The biggest fear I have is when I finally get it and then have to fudge around with my pc for 3 days to get it somewhat good.

My expectation is that, there might be a few games that you can't run, but most of them would be no problem.  

I can understand the recommendation.  
Applications tend to be single threaded, and for VR applications, you'll want to be running pretty high frame rates.  ~90+.
Not all games would need that kind of CPU to run at that frame rate, but I'm sure there are some that would.  

Well stop it.  Bad Tacos!  
Read what I said earlier.  

there might be a few games that you can't run

might be a few games that you can't run

few games that you can't run

games that you can't run

you can't run

I'm not worthy!

This is unacceptable.

Did you get a tiny fairy to type this for you?  

It's your fault for going AMD.  (There are none that are recommended by Oculus.)  
Single Threaded performance for the win!  

You'll be fine. It's just a recommendation.  
As long as the games you have run good, so will VR games.  

I just copied and pasted your text. Are you a tiny fairy?

Posting this to watch later.

So it seems like a lot of over designing is at fault for the large cost. I'm at 26 minutes and they're talking about creating their own fabric because existing ones weren't perfect. Plastic on the outside would have been so much cheaper.

Well I ran elite unlocked and side by side 3d on ultra at 120fps. I should be okay for vr. That's really as close as I could get to vr setting without the headset.

I really hope you're fine, cause I don't want to have to upgrade my single card!

I really hope you're fine, cause I don't want to have to upgrade my single card!

Nah you're fine.  
He's just a little worried about his AMD.  

You make it sound like vd. Oh my god, hes got amd, I fell sorry for the guy.

I really hope you're fine, cause I don't want to have to upgrade my single card!

lol
The recommended specs are (from memory, here I go):
intel i5-4590
8 GB Ram
GTX 970
Then there's a few other things like HDMI, USB ports.  

Your PC (from recent memory)
intel i7-4790k (k?)
8 GB RAM
GTX 970

So yeah, you're fine.  

Tacos
AMD 8320E
8 GB RAM (?)
2 * GTX 970

Tacos, will be good too.  Even though no AMD is recommended for Oculus.  As long as he's able to run his games at a good frame rate, he'll be great.  

Right on the money with my specs.

I want to play at ultra settings though :(

980 ti bro  

i don't think a ti 89 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/TI-89.jpg) will run OR bro..

You know what would work well with VR? Fatal Frame. Imagine taking fatal frames (the mechanic) in VR

Paul Raines, GameStop CEO, shared his thoughts regarding VR during the ICR Conference 2016 in Orlando and, according to him, Sony seems to have the strongest lineup with PlayStation VR.

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Raines said he wouldn't be drawn into a conversation about the quality of the three major headsets, instead saying Oculus Rift, HTC Vive, and PlayStation VR all look great. The bigger consideration for GameStop, Raines said, is the breadth of content that will be available. In that regard, Sony has the edge.
 "The more important thing will be the title count at launch," Raines said. "I think that's going to be big. And from what we can see at this point, Sony seems to have the strongest title count."
 It's still relatively early days, however, and none of the VR companies have yet to provide any specifics on the number of games that will be available for their devices. For its part, Sony has said more than 200 developers have signed up to make PlayStation VR games, of which 100 or more are currently in development.
 Raines went on to say that the games lineup for each device will come into focus over time. He pointed out that GameStop has a team in Hawaii right now attending a sales meeting where Sony may divulge more information.

 

(http://i.imgur.com/nrr4wS3.jpg)
 More details here: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4.../1100-6433750/ (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-virtual-reality-headset-has-strongest-games-li/1100-6433750/)Here's a thread with confirmed games/demos/apps for the PS VR (as of 12/21/2015, which is the last time it has been edited)

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Originally Posted by biglittleps
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 Here it is : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1044658

 

I was one of the first at PSX to play this, and got the sweet jersey they were handing out.
 Game was really really cool, despite the fact that my unit was having some drift issues. Definitely excited about this and can't wait to PSVR down the road.
 First moment of getting in the mech, and looking down at my own body was one of the most "WOW" moments I've had in gaming in a long time.
 When you start a match, you are launched out of cylinder and shot 100 or so feet in the air. I was totally convinced I was that high up, and was legitimately scared lol.
 

Hey, we can still do colors!

A while ago, I was at EAA, and I got to try something that was kind of like a VR set.  It had a display that you held onto your face.  You could drive around a car by turning the headset. Low resolution, bad.  It was interesting, it wasn't great though.
Today, they had a GearVR set up at BestBuy so I tried it out.  I only got to see a little menu thing.  I wasn't sure how to work the thing.  It looked good, even though I could see pixels.  It just felt great though.  I don't know what it was exactly, it just felt great.  It was just a little menu, it felt fairly comfortable, but it was just crazy cool to be able to look around. I'm so excited for the real thing!

 I kinda feel like a lot of people are expecting it to be like the first thing I experienced.  Interesting, but not worth buying.  

HTC Vive report (http://www.gamecrate.com/htc-vive-lands-gamecrate/12736?hootPostID=657e7bab19dc6df73ac1d61f9d3c5d39) "The truth is the Vive is ready for prime time. Even someone as jaded as me recognizes that everyone -- including my 75 year old mother -- will want a VR system. That's not hyperbole, that's seeing 100 people play the Vive for 5 minutes each and come away with giant grins and credit cards waving. VR is happening. " Would be curious to hear from those that are skeptical of VR if this article in any way makes them more curious about it.
 

Lol, I want to experience VR  >:(

Get a job or two.

Get a job or two.

Already have one lol... And school too. I can easily afford it, but want to try it first

Check your library.

The ones around here have had vr since dk1.

I really really really don't think any library has one here Hehe

Motion sickness, even in EVE Valkyrie's 3D space combat, had never happened to me in VR until Elite Dangerous. In space, while piloting a fighter craft, I found it natural to think about combat in a 3D way -- I could head off, avoid, or get the jump on an opponent easily, aside from my stomach feeling like it was climbing up my chest.
Elite's convincing physics had my brain struggling to adapt to the inertia and weight of pursuit. On the ground -- in the Elite: Dangerous - Horizons buggy -- I had the same issue. I wasn't thinking completely in 3D, but the low-gravity planet, combined with the ability to easily topple or flip my vehicle, had me uncomfortable almost the entire time.
As I assume I'd feel offworld, too.
I don't think I'll play Elite in VR. It's excellent, no doubt, with contextual menus popping and fading based on where I'm looking and what I need -- but even my typically steel stomach and adaptable brain struggled with the unfamiliar physics that make this a great space sim.

:(

Valve VR: Hands-On With 12 Vive Games - IGN (http://m.ign.com/articles/2016/01/28/valve-vr-hands-on-with-12-vive-games)

Rumour: PSVR to cost $300 just for the headset with an addition package with camera and move controllers costing £129

I saw this on chertz.  It was a link to a tweet, but the twitter account has since been deleted.  

That wouldn't be too bad.

It would be nice, but I don't believe it. They'll include the camera with the head set, not bundle with a move contoller. You cant sell something required for the headset to work in a separate package.

It would be nice, but I don't believe it. They'll include the camera with the head set, not bundle with a move contoller. You cant sell something required for the headset to work in a separate package.

Sell it?  

They have to have a package with everything needed. They also can't have to many that it become confusing.  The BOM on the camera should be super cheap, it would hardly be a big deal if they added it in every box.

It's not about Sony, but consumer perception.

People hate paying twice, and to them the camera is $60. I had to buy Move with an extra copy of Killzone 3 and it was really offputing personally.

Plus it's not like this only affects a handfull of people. PS Camera still sells good on Amazon and is around ~5 million sales.


I think forcing a bundle would strongly hurt psvr sales.

How about a voucher?

It would be nice, but I don't believe it. They'll include the camera with the head set, not bundle with a move contoller. You cant sell something required for the headset to work in a separate package.

It's not about Sony, but consumer perception.

People hate paying twice, and to them the camera is $60. I had to buy Move with an extra copy of Killzone 3 and it was really offputing personally.

Plus it's not like this only affects a handfull of people. PS Camera still sells good on Amazon and is around ~5 million sales.


I think forcing a bundle would strongly hurt psvr sales.

(http://i.imgur.com/sl3UAkD.png)
 "who iced up my room i just wanna play video games"
 

NeoGAF - View Single Post -  HTC Vive Pre user guide is available online (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194284467&postcount=2)

i thought this was a well crafted neogaf joke image and then i read your first post.  dear god, expectations are soo far from the mark on what i customer is willing to do to play video games.

Weird.  :o
I posted a double.  

VR arcades make a lot more sense for these active experiences.

maybe.  but if i were leaving the house to go to an arcade i would want a social experience.  not this.  this isn't what i would be leaving the house to do.

i thought this was a well crafted neogaf joke image and then i read your first post.  dear god, expectations are soo far from the mark on what i customer is willing to do to play video games.

VR arcades make a lot more sense for these active experiences.
Odd

Well, it is just an option.   But its so funny. 
Let's just move this couch into this other place so we can play. 

they fact the couch and coffee table are in front of an oven is even more hilarious.  


"dear wife,.. the entire house is now off limits because i want to play a video game."
said no one ever.

How much do they cost new?

I saw this on chertz.  It was a link to a tweet, but the twitter account has since been deleted. 

I spoke to a Sony rep recently (Who is NOT an official spokesman for Sony) that stated that he had heard rumors they were hoping to price the HMD at $299, which won't include the camera or PlayStation move controllers. But that they would probably have a separate starter kit where you could get the camera and move controllers and a game for around $129. For $428 + tax for the complete PSVR + camera + move controllers, would be a bargain!

@StikeGamer @mmalex @antovsky the same Move controllers for PS3 will work with PS4 and PS VR

— Shuhei Yoshida (@yosp) February 6, 2016

@StikeGamer @mmalex @antovsky the same Move controllers for PS3 will work with PS4 and PS VR

— Shuhei Yoshida (@yosp) February 6, 2016

Reddit posted this:  
(RUMOR) Rep mentioned Sony would probably sell a base PSVR HMD for $299 without camera or move controllers. But will have a separate PSVR kit with Camera + Move controllers for around $129. : playstationvr (https://www.reddit.com/r/playstationvr/comments/43fj9x/rumor_rep_mentioned_sony_would_probably_sell_a/)


It's not the best source, but to me it seems unlikely to be talking about the other rumor.  I just think it seems pretty unlikely, because I don't think the other rumor was really so widespread.  There's a ton of rumors, but it wasn't easy to find the above, and it's interesting that this one goes in line with it.  

It might mean absolutely nothing (and probably does), but I find it interesting nonetheless.

(http://media.steampowered.com/img/announcements/VivePRE.png)

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The HTC Vive Pre is now making its way to developers’ studios around the world. If you’ve been working with us to build content using the first version of our dev kit, check your inbox for the key and instructions you’ll use to upgrade that old kit to a new Vive PRE.

 

http://steamcommunity.com/games/2508...99628994620161 (http://steamcommunity.com/games/250820/announcements/detail/666899628994620161)NEW DEV SITE:https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...5254-FJKZ-7829 (https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5254-FJKZ-7829)
 

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HTC VIVE Pre devkits SHIPPED and new dev site - NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1180526)
http://steamcommunity.com/games/2508...99628994620161 (http://steamcommunity.com/games/250820/announcements/detail/666899628994620161)NEW DEV SITE:https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...5254-FJKZ-7829 (https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5254-FJKZ-7829)
 

isn't that a bit late?  doesn't the think launch in just a few months?