General Discussion Thread

[Xevross]

Rates of other types of violent crime will rise in place of gun crimes. Violent crime per capita is actually higher in Europe than in the US despite the former having more restrictive firearm laws. Also, Vermont has the least restrictive gun laws, but it has the least gun murders per capita in the US.

Violent crime may be higher but I doubt that anywhere near as many people die.


I did see the news and I was angry and sad at the same time. I shouldn't have reacted in here so strongly. Sorry guys.

[the-pi-guy]

I did see the news and I was angry and sad at the same time. I shouldn't have reacted in here so strongly. Sorry guys.

I thought this was about something from a few days ago.  But I just saw the news. "Horrific", "disgusting", those words, they just doesn't cover it.  Your emotions are understandable.  

I don't understand how people can do that.   I can feel my stomach twisting at the thought of not holding the door open for someone.  How someone or people can do something like that, I just don't understand.  How are their guts not just ripping at each other?

The US has a lot of issues, that all pile into each other that causes events like this.  Guns are part of the issue, but a lot of these problems would absolutely still exist regardless.  There are some fairly decent solutions to these problems, that frankly should make both the pro-gun and the anti-gun people happy, but the pro-gun people are very stubborn and paranoid.  

The emotions are understandable, but it's not fair of you to put that on us.  

[Xevross]

I was being stupid yesterday but this is the point I was trying to make:

There's a serious issue in the US with violent crime and homicide and I believe that it being so easy to get hold of guns is one of the main reasons why.



This chart points out the issue very well.

Its just too easy to go out and get a gun. I remember seeing on BBC news a while ago one of their reporters flying to America and they managed to get hold of a pistol within 4 hours of landing.

I've always wanted to live in America, at least for a few years, but its stuff like this which really puts me off.

[Raven]

I was being stupid yesterday but this is the point I was trying to make:

There's a serious issue in the US with violent crime and homicide and I believe that it being so easy to get hold of guns is one of the main reasons why.



This chart points out the issue very well.

Its just too easy to go out and get a gun. I remember seeing on BBC news a while ago one of their reporters flying to America and they managed to get hold of a pistol within 4 hours of landing.

I've always wanted to live in America, at least for a few years, but its stuff like this which really puts me off.

Mental health is a gravely overlooked issue in the US. It doesn't help that decades ago, a lot of mentally ill patients were released from psyche wards because someone convinced a politician that mental illness was battleship. In the US, you're three times more likely to get killed in a car accident than you are to be murdered by a gun. The Orlando shooting was a domestic terror attack. A terrorist does not obey your laws. Making guns illegal wouldn't have stopped what happened in Orlando just as it wouldn't have stopped 9/11 or the Boston Marathon bombing. What happened in Orlando was carried out by someone with intent. Not by someone who happened to have a gun on them, got into an altercation with someone, and shot them unnecessarily. The only thing I do agree with is the ease by which a person can acquire a gun. A much more thorough background check and lengthy "cooldown" period can go a long way. However, this idea some people have that if we just take away the guns we'll all be safe is entirely ignorant to the root causes of these issues.

[Xevross]

Mental health is a gravely overlooked issue in the US. It doesn't help that decades ago, a lot of mentally ill patients were released from psyche wards because someone convinced a politician that mental illness was battleship. In the US, you're three times more likely to get killed in a car accident than you are to be murdered by a gun. The Orlando shooting was a domestic terror attack. A terrorist does not obey your laws. Making guns illegal wouldn't have stopped what happened in Orlando just as it wouldn't have stopped 9/11 or the Boston Marathon bombing. What happened in Orlando was carried out by someone with intent. Not by someone who happened to have a gun on them, got into an altercation with someone, and shot them unnecessarily. The only thing I do agree with is the ease by which a person can acquire a gun. A much more thorough background check and lengthy "cooldown" period can go a long way. However, this idea some people have that if we just take away the guns we'll all be safe is entirely ignorant to the root causes of these issues.

Yeah I agree with you here. Although I think there would be a lot less mass shootings and alleged terror attacks if it wasn't so easy to get guns. Things like that could happen in the UK but they don't as much and that is down to guns and, like you said, other root causes.

There's a lot of issues in America right now, that's for sure. I'm starting to really understand why so many of you are so upset and fed up with your government

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[Mmm_fish_tacos]

I was being stupid yesterday but this is the point I was trying to make:

There's a serious issue in the US with violent crime and homicide and I believe that it being so easy to get hold of guns is one of the main reasons why.



This chart points out the issue very well.

Its just too easy to go out and get a gun. I remember seeing on BBC news a while ago one of their reporters flying to America and they managed to get hold of a pistol within 4 hours of landing.

I've always wanted to live in America, at least for a few years, but its stuff like this which really puts me off.

Even if we took away every gun we would still have twice the murder rate than the next closest country. They would just replace a gun for another weapon. And theres many legitimate reasons to have a gun here outside of self protection. Poverty here is beyond bad. Education is a big pile of shame here, and there are far too many gangs and mobs.

Although I do agree our laws failed us on this one, And I hope something is fixed. He was being watched and on the no fly list, but because of some iced up law they couldn't keep him from buying a gun. Even though he probably would have reached out to isis and had one anyway.

[Dr. Pezus]

First match for us in a big competition EVER and it's against Ronaldo of all people heh

Dat save!

[Xevross]

First match for us in a big competition EVER and it's against Ronaldo of all people heh

Dat save!

You're not doing too badly for yourselves so far

[Xevross]

You did it!!

[Dr. Pezus]

You did it!!

We'll steal the win!

Ronaldo stopped!

Omg almost a steal holy fudge

1-1 and we're happy!

[Xevross]

Great result!

[Dr. Pezus]

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[Aura7541]

I was being stupid yesterday but this is the point I was trying to make:

There's a serious issue in the US with violent crime and homicide and I believe that it being so easy to get hold of guns is one of the main reasons why.



This chart points out the issue very well.

Its just too easy to go out and get a gun. I remember seeing on BBC news a while ago one of their reporters flying to America and they managed to get hold of a pistol within 4 hours of landing.

I've always wanted to live in America, at least for a few years, but its stuff like this which really puts me off.

However, there are many types of homicides and I won't be surprised if a huge portion of the US's came from gang-on-gang homicides. Also, here's this table on mass public shootings from the Crime Prevention Research Center:

[Dr. Pezus]

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