PlayStation Studios Development

[Legend]

I really hope the game isn't dead. I love mass effect!

[Horizon]

So Grubb says Sony considering doing a showcase and I can see why. A showcase with the potential to show:

Wolverine gameplay
Intergalactic gameplay
Saros gameplay
Yotei gameplay
Horizon online 
Santa Monica new IP
Until Dawn 2 
Xdev
Venom
Some 2nd party exclusive

Would be like a mix of 2018/2016 e3. 

[kitler53]

So Grubb says Sony considering doing a showcase and I can see why. A showcase with the potential to show:

Wolverine gameplay
Intergalactic gameplay
Saros gameplay
Yotei gameplay
Horizon online
Santa Monica new IP
Until Dawn 2
Xdev
Venom
Some 2nd party exclusive

Would be like a mix of 2018/2016 e3.

that would be a great show!

....but all people will talk about for the next 4 years is how terrible it is that sony has nothing to show.  

[the-pi-guy]

https://www.thegamer.com/fairgames-playstation-sony-live-service-project-reportedly-pushed-to-2026/

Not sure if this got mentioned. Fairgame likely pushed to 2026.  

[the-pi-guy]

I wonder what all is happening with Sony's live service push. I feel like the whole thing has gotten stupider as time has gone on. 

I've said a billion times before that it made sense to make live service games, even potentially a bunch of them with the hope of something becoming successful. But it makes basically no sense to drastically scale down what was working in favor of risky live service games. I'm still baffled that Bluepoint was working on a live service title. 

It also feels kind of dumb to do such a hard reset on the entire thing. The fact that they unceremoniously cut so many large projects feels insane on its own. 2 at Firesprite, Bluepoint, Bend Studio, Insomniac Games, Naughty Dog, London Studio, potentially Deviation Games. 

I think at this point we are left with Helldivers, Horizon Online, Fairgame$, Bungie's projects. 

What is Sony's future?

The only way it could get dumber, is if we find out that they just reassigned all the studios to new live service games. 

Hopefully the future is more tactful. 

[Legend]

I think it's near impossible to overstate how badly concord flopped. Sony probably planned for most of these live service games to do ok and only a few to be big hits, but concord did not make even a single penny in income. Other games will certainly not do that bad but they could easily fail to recoup even marketing costs. Canceling games from devs that could definitely make a profit from single player games makes sense. As you say it was really weird that Sony even put these studios on live service in the first place.


Horizon mp will probably only do ok imo. I expected lego horizon to do much better than it did. That makes me worried that the horizon ip won't be able to carry the game.

Fairgame will of course flop imo.

Bungie is a complete wildcard. They don't have many of their old devs remaining but their legacy is still pretty powerful for recruiting. Maybe they pull another rabit out of the hat.

[Horizon]

that would be a great show!

....but all people will talk about for the next 4 years is how terrible it is that sony has nothing to show. 

Well this is the conundrum they face. We know Wolverine and Saros are 2026 so its fair to expect something this year. If Cory's game is 2027 it's probably best to hold off till like the game awards or next year. I do think this is the year to show stuff though as GTA 6 will get casual gamers to have more eyes on PS5 than ever before. 

[Horizon]

I wonder what all is happening with Sony's live service push. I feel like the whole thing has gotten stupider as time has gone on.

I've said a billion times before that it made sense to make live service games, even potentially a bunch of them with the hope of something becoming successful. But it makes basically no sense to drastically scale down what was working in favor of risky live service games. I'm still baffled that Bluepoint was working on a live service title.

It also feels kind of dumb to do such a hard reset on the entire thing. The fact that they unceremoniously cut so many large projects feels insane on its own. 2 at Firesprite, Bluepoint, Bend Studio, Insomniac Games, Naughty Dog, London Studio, potentially Deviation Games.

I think at this point we are left with Helldivers, Horizon Online, Fairgame$, Bungie's projects.

What is Sony's future?

The only way it could get dumber, is if we find out that they just reassigned all the studios to new live service games.

Hopefully the future is more tactful.

I wonder if Xbox's pivot to multiplatform has made them have a rethink as well. It's abundantly clear games like COD need PS to survive and more and more Xbox games will be relying on the PS5 install base.

[kitler53]

Well this is the conundrum they face. We know Wolverine and Saros are 2026 so its fair to expect something this year. If Cory's game is 2027 it's probably best to hold off till like the game awards or next year. I do think this is the year to show stuff though as GTA 6 will get casual gamers to have more eyes on PS5 than ever before.

wolverine doesn't have any release date or even a window.   2026 is pure speculation.

[Horizon]

wolverine doesn't have any release date or even a window.  2026 is pure speculation.

It doesn't but it was the release date in the Insomniac hack. Also its not too far fetched.

Started dev in late in 2020 would give it over 5 years. 

[kitler53]

It doesn't but it was the release date in the Insomniac hack. Also its not too far fetched.

Started dev in late in 2020 would give it over 5 years.

I wouldn't take that timeline too seriously. 

I remember multiple versions of timelines proposed.  the data was old when leaked which means the timeline was at best a "target" for them.  also stuff happened like insomniac had some layoffs. 

point being we really don't know.

and maybe more specific,.. that timeline had venom shipping in 2025. if there is any truth to that timeline venom need to be announced before wolverine needs a gameplay trailer. 

if I were Sony I wouldn't do both at once

[Legend]

Jim Ryan forced Shuhei Yoshida to take the PlayStation Indies role

Shuhei says “He had no choice. It was take that indie job or leave the company.”

See more: https://t.co/maQKzh5JIG pic.twitter.com/Dk25hUtvJc

— Hunter 🎮 (@NextGenPlayer) February 17, 2025

Wow

[Horizon]

Based on linkedin Insomniac has not yet cut jobs but actually continued to grow. Sony studios by numbers:

Insomniac: 519
Guerrilla: 416
SSMS: 413
Naughty Dog: 400-500 people
Firesprite: 220
Sucker Punch: 217
Bend: 135
Bluepoint: 80
Housemarque: 116
Firewalk: 153
Haven: 162
Media Molecule: 95
London studios: 115

Thought it would be interesting to give an update:

Insomniac: 497
Guerrilla: 412
SSM: 491
Naughty Dog: 450-500
Firesprite: 130
Sucker Punch: 241
Bend: 142
Bluepoint: 80
Housemarque: 120
Haven: 247
Media Molecule: 104
Team Asobi:80
Polyphony Digital: 300

RIP to London and Firewalk

[darkknightkryta]

I wonder what all is happening with Sony's live service push. I feel like the whole thing has gotten stupider as time has gone on.

I've said a billion times before that it made sense to make live service games, even potentially a bunch of them with the hope of something becoming successful. But it makes basically no sense to drastically scale down what was working in favor of risky live service games. I'm still baffled that Bluepoint was working on a live service title.

It also feels kind of dumb to do such a hard reset on the entire thing. The fact that they unceremoniously cut so many large projects feels insane on its own. 2 at Firesprite, Bluepoint, Bend Studio, Insomniac Games, Naughty Dog, London Studio, potentially Deviation Games.

I think at this point we are left with Helldivers, Horizon Online, Fairgame$, Bungie's projects.

What is Sony's future?

The only way it could get dumber, is if we find out that they just reassigned all the studios to new live service games.

Hopefully the future is more tactful.

I remember I mentioned here years ago that Sony (Jim Ryan) was building a house of cards and we'll wait and see if the house falls.  We're currently seeing that house fall. 

On another note, I vaguely remember mentioning with my tin hat on (Silent Hill's director alluded to such) that Sony wasn't green lighting any of Japan Studio's games because they weren't AAA titles, and now according to Shu, that was the case (I did only read the headlines though...).

[Legend]

Neil Druckmann says "don't bet on" there being a The Last of Us Part 3. https://t.co/yNkuYtoiLk pic.twitter.com/9f2EG2cxaw

— IGN (@IGN) March 5, 2025

Wonder if this means they already have something else cooking for post intergalactic the heretic prophet