PlayStation Community Thread

[SWORDF1SH]

A game is a game. The idea of AAA, AA or Indie needs to die in my opinion. All I need to know is if it's worth playing and why.

FEZ, Thomas Was Alone and TLOU are all remarkable 'games'.

Agreed. Some of my best experiences come from indie games. Some indie games provide more value than 'AAA' games.

[GribbleGrunger]

Agreed. Some of my best experiences come from indie games. Some indie games provide more value than 'AAA' games.

But you just agreed with my post

[SWORDF1SH]

But you just agreed with my post

That's why I quoted 'AAA'.  

[Kerotan]

I'd be surprised if any e3 in the next 5 years Surpasses e3 2015. To me it was the greatest ever.  I don't think it's fair to hold that year against the ones that come after.

[DerNebel]

I'd be surprised if any e3 in the next 5 years Surpasses e3 2015. To me it was the greatest ever.  I don't think it's fair to hold that year against the ones that come after.

I wouldn't say that. If you actually take the final products that come out of the conference into account then I have no problem believing that in a couple years time 2015s E3 conference will be viewed in a noticably worse light. Of course the jury is still out, but I can easily see the big 3 from 2015 becoming varying degrees of disappointments much more so than I can see the same for 2016.

FF7 Remake and Shenmue 3 have already started disappointing people, by one being split up into parts and the other one trying to create a sequel to what was once the most expensive game of all time on a budget of 6.3 million plus an undefined amount of outside funding and TLG previews haven't exactly been glowing either. If you compare that to 2016s big 3: God of War, Spiderman and Death Stranding, I would say worries for those titles are far less justified at this point. The worst you could say imo is that God of War looks different than the series did before and that Death Stranding won't be coming for years (then again you can say the same for FF7 Remake).

If we expand the list to top 5 then I would say announcement number 4&5 (Horizon and Dreams) from 2015 beat out number 4&5 (Days Gone and Crash Remastered) from 2016, but still I overall would still bet that 2016 announced games that ultimately have a better chance of meeting their expectations.

Also I'd say that 2016 easily wins in sales potential for the games they announced.

[the-pi-guy]

What if instead of budget, there was a rating system that covered talent somehow.  

A5- really awesome
A4- awesome
A3- good
A2 - OK
A1 - bad

[Raven]

I wouldn't say that. If you actually take the final products that come out of the conference into account then I have no problem believing that in a couple years time 2015s E3 conference will be viewed in a noticably worse light. Of course the jury is still out, but I can easily see the big 3 from 2015 becoming varying degrees of disappointments much more so than I can see the same for 2016.

FF7 Remake and Shenmue 3 have already started disappointing people, by one being split up into parts and the other one trying to create a sequel to what was once the most expensive game of all time on a budget of 6.3 million plus an undefined amount of outside funding and TLG previews haven't exactly been glowing either. If you compare that to 2016s big 3: God of War, Spiderman and Death Stranding, I would say worries for those titles are far less justified at this point. The worst you could say imo is that God of War looks different than the series did before and that Death Stranding won't be coming for years (then again you can say the same for FF7 Remake).

If we expand the list to top 5 then I would say announcement number 4&5 (Horizon and Dreams) from 2015 beat out number 4&5 (Days Gone and Crash Remastered) from 2016, but still I overall would still bet that 2016 announced games that ultimately have a better chance of meeting their expectations.

Also I'd say that 2016 easily wins in sales potential for the games they announced.

I'd say where you're stumbling here is that you're thinking about this logically. That doesn't make you wrong at all. However, for most people that I have ever talked to about these conferences, what they remember most about them is how the announcements made them feel at the time. Not what the actual results ended up being. I will always fondly remember the PS4 reveal event even though the games they announced then ended up mostly being disappointments. It's that emotional nostalgia. I have always been fairly certain that The Last Guardian would never come close to living up to expectations but I was still jazzed they announced it. Even years from now after the game releases and assuming it actually wasn't that great, when I look back at E3 2015 I will be much more likely to think fondly of it because of how it made me feel.

Microsoft's E3 2013 conference. Without a doubt one of the most overhyped E3 first party lineups we've seen this generation. Potentially ever. The games that ended up coming from that event were practically all disappointments to some degree or another. Some were flat out bombs comparatively. I still remember it fondly because of how I felt at the time I was seeing those games. When they came out with Killer Instinct I was like a kid at Christmas and my nostalgia rock for the original games made my pants really tight. Crimson Dragon? Same deal. I was looking at a spiritual successor to Panzer Dragoon. I loved the original Dead Rising so when they showed the third game I couldn't help but be excited.

People watch those events because they want to feel. If they just want facts they'll wait until it's over and get the cold details as they're released over website text. Again, you're not wrong for thinking about the whole thing logically. You are, however, making the mistake of thinking that's how many people will remember it. The same way you do. With the cold details long after the fact. No matter what happens to the FF7 Remake, it will always make me remember E3 2015 as the first gaming event ever where I literally screamed and threw my fists in the air with excitement. No matter how good the games from E3 2016 end up being, that event will never come close to how I felt about the one before it. You can rattle off all the details to me you want about how the games performed after. You can remind me that a Call of Duty game sold better and scored higher than all of the other games at the previous conference combined. I won't give a shame. Because Call of Duty didn't excite me like the announcements from the previous event did.

[Dr. Pezus]

Gears and dragon quest have the same meta. Come out on the same day too!

Dragon quest just got 8.9 from IGN. Crazy

[Rorono]

Builders is getting suprisingly high reviews
Demo was nice but felt like wait-for-a-sale game to me

[Dr. Pezus]

Builders is getting suprisingly high reviews
Demo was nice but felt like wait-for-a-sale game to me

Is the demo in Europe too? Or only japan

Nvm, found it!

[GribbleGrunger]

Is the demo in Europe too? Or only japan

Nvm, found it!

It's out in Europe and the US.

[DerNebel]

Mass Effect Andromeda release date potentially leaked:

Mass Effect: Andromeda release date potentially leaked by Dark Horse Comics | VG247

[kitler53]

Mass Effect Andromeda release date potentially leaked:

Mass Effect: Andromeda release date potentially leaked by Dark Horse Comics | VG247

zomg it had a delay, let's get the pitchforks out...

[DerNebel]

zomg it had a delay, let's get the pitchforks out...

zomg it's releasing in Q1, I thought only Sony was releasing games in Q1.

Besides the Q1 date for Mass Effect was announced months ago.

[Kerotan]

COD4 remastered is just so good.