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Title: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Mar 16, 2020, 11:34 PM
Xbox Series X


(https://compass-ssl.xbox.com/assets/b0/ef/b0efccba-4943-4d1c-9695-4fa3be1530c3.svg?n=Xbox-Series-X_Banner-Logo-0_Xbox-Series-X-Logo-Black-Bkg_180x180.svg)


Coming November 10, 2020










Xbox Series XXbox Series S
(https://compass-ssl.xbox.com/assets/85/8b/858b94d4-0ca6-4e74-ac9f-38565c49f2df.jpg?n=Xbox-Series-X_Image-0_1083x1400_02.jpg)
(https://compass-ssl.xbox.com/assets/ee/e2/eee2ab3f-4397-43cb-9619-2e1514523903.jpg?n=XSS_Super-Hero-0_767x431.jpg)
Price$499$299
CPU8 Core AMD Zen 2.  
8 Threads   @ 3.8 GHz or
16 Threads @ 3.6 GHz
8 Core AMD Zen 2.  
8 Threads   @ 3.6 GHz or
16 Threads @ 3.4 GHz
GPU12 TF RDNA 2 Navi
13 TF worth of ray tracing
4 TF RDNA 2
RAMSingle Pool 16 GB GDDR6
10 GB GPU optimized RAM @ 560GB/s, 6 GB system RAM @ 336 GB/s
13.5 GB dedicated to games, 2.5GB  of system RAM dedicated to OS.
Single Pool 10 GB GDDR6
8 GB @ 224 GB/s, 2 GB @ 56 GB/s
Storage1 TB SSD
2.4 GB/s raw throughput, 4.8 compressed
512 GB SSD
2.4 GB/s raw throughput, 4.8 compressed
Expandable StoragePlaying Xbox Series games requires proprietary card storage
Storing Xbox Series games can be placed on external HDD
Previous Xbox games can be played or stored on external HDD
USB 3.2 support
Playing Xbox Series games requires proprietary card storage
Storing Xbox Series games can be placed on external HDD
Previous Xbox games can be played or stored on external HDD
USB 3.2 support
Optical Drive4K bluray drive (100GB)NA
Backwards CompatibilitySelect Xbox, Xbox 360 titles, all Xbox One titlesSelect Xbox, Xbox 360 titles, all Xbox One titles
Special FeaturesQuick Resume (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S82YvCtwfHY)
Quick Resume (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S82YvCtwfHY)


Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: Legend on Mar 17, 2020, 02:13 AM
I want one.


Please be good Halo Infinite.
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: kitler53 on Mar 17, 2020, 01:51 PM
I want one.


Please be good Halo Infinite.
getting both next gen systems or switching to xbox?
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: Legend on Mar 17, 2020, 02:07 PM
getting both next gen systems or switching to xbox?
Both.

Xbox One has been the only system I've skipped since I got into gaming. Since xsx has full bc, I figure it's a good way to play the few good games I missed. If Halo looks bad though I might end up holding off. That's what happened last gen.
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: kitler53 on Mar 17, 2020, 05:17 PM
Both.

Xbox One has been the only system I've skipped since I got into gaming. Since xsx has full bc, I figure it's a good way to play the few good games I missed. If Halo looks bad though I might end up holding off. That's what happened last gen.
my opinion,.. mult-console ownership is overrated.  i had wii, ps3, xbox.   2 of the 3 just collected dust.   too much of the library is the same.   yes, missing a few exclusives sucks but there are sooooo many games to play on any one machine it isn't worth it to get hardware to play 2-3 exclusives.

my opinion.
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: Legend on Mar 17, 2020, 07:36 PM
my opinion,.. mult-console ownership is overrated.  i had wii, ps3, xbox.   2 of the 3 just collected dust.   too much of the library is the same.   yes, missing a few exclusives sucks but there are sooooo many games to play on any one machine it isn't worth it to get hardware to play 2-3 exclusives.

my opinion.
The only system that I've barely played is 3DS. Every other system I've owned has been played a lot. 360 and PS3 worked out since I split multiplats between the two.
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Mar 18, 2020, 08:15 PM
I want one.
Unless the Series X is really expensive, this will be the first gen I get an Xbox as well.  
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: Legend on Mar 18, 2020, 08:16 PM
Unless the Series X is really expensive, this will be the first gen I get an Xbox as well.  
Why didn't you get an og xbox or 360?

Have you never played Halo?
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Mar 18, 2020, 08:21 PM
Why didn't you get an og xbox or 360?
Other systems gave me more than enough to play. Still have PS2, PS3 games to play.  


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Have you never played Halo?
Nope, but I have it on PC now.  
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: Legend on Mar 18, 2020, 08:35 PM
Other systems gave me more than enough to play. Still have PS2, PS3 games to play.  


Nope, but I have it on PC now.  

No clue how they hold up but Halo was epic. Halo 5 sucking was a big reason I skipped xbox one.


Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: Xevross on Mar 18, 2020, 09:24 PM
If I settle down in my own place I may get an xbox too. Gaming on console is just so much better than PC and I want to play those Xbox games conveniently.
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on May 01, 2020, 12:54 PM
Phil Spencer: Xbox Series X still set to launch on schedule, but games could be delayed | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/phil-spencer-xbox-series-x-still-set-to-launch-on-schedule-but-games-could-be-delayed.195567/)

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Microsoft's Xbox chief, Phil Spencer, says the company's next-gen Xbox Series X console is still on schedule for later this year, but game production is a little more of an unknown (https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/1/21243860/xbox-series-x-launch-release-date-timing-coronavirus-games-schedule). In an interview with CNBC (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/30/xbox-series-x-on-schedule-xbox-games-could-be-delayed-by-coronavirus.html), Spencer notes that there could be "some impact" to Xbox Series X schedules, but that "the teams are doing a very good job with keeping our hardware on track" and "overall we're in line with where we thought we would be."

 "I'd say the bigger unknown is probably the game production, just being honest," says Spencer. "Game production is a large scale entertainment activity now, you have hundreds of people coming together, building assets, working through creative."

 Xbox game developers are now mostly working from home, creating and sharing assets that are often gigabytes in size over US home internet connections -- an obvious challenge. "On the game production side, we're learning every day," admits Spencer. "I still feel good about it, but I also need to make sure that the security and safety of the teams is the most important thing, and not unduly push when things just aren't ready."  Click to expand... Click to shrink...  
This's how it's for the entire industry right now, and is probably gonna affect next gen launch for both 1st and 3rd party.  
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Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: kitler53 on May 01, 2020, 01:58 PM
Phil Spencer: Xbox Series X still set to launch on schedule, but games could be delayed | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/phil-spencer-xbox-series-x-still-set-to-launch-on-schedule-but-games-could-be-delayed.195567/)
This's how it's for the entire industry right now, and is probably gonna affect next gen launch for both 1st and 3rd party.  

i don't make games,.. and my team is tiny compared to AAA game development,.. but we are having a hard time staying on schedule too.   we're not at a stand-still but adjusting to virtual everything has been quite the challenge.   we seemed to be fixing the communication problems by having waaaaay too many meetings.  and that cuts into actual productivity quickly.
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: Legend on Aug 27, 2020, 01:42 AM
Xbox Series X Size Comparison - Album on Imgur (https://imgur.com/gallery/8K9jwXg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7O6Ehj5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OUKyvhD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/18X5o19.jpg)
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 27, 2020, 01:52 AM
XSX is a big boy.

And PS5 is a bit bigger yet.  

I wonder if this gen will have the biggest average console....
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Aug 27, 2020, 07:38 AM
XSX is a big boy.
For you...
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: BananaKing on Aug 27, 2020, 11:10 AM
shame these new consoles are huge.
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: Xevross on Aug 27, 2020, 11:15 AM
Xbox Series X Size Comparison - Album on Imgur (https://imgur.com/gallery/8K9jwXg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7O6Ehj5.jpg)
I love how well it fits next to a gamecube, its like that's the perfect size for a cubey console.
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 27, 2020, 05:46 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5b71mHb.jpg)
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 09, 2020, 10:48 AM
Title: Re: |Xbox Series OT|
Post by: BananaKing on Sep 09, 2020, 12:49 PM
No way is that true. Thats waaaay to expensive
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 09, 2020, 01:13 PM
No way is that true. Thats waaaay to expensive
I mean it's an ssd though
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 09, 2020, 02:09 PM
Nice how within an hour of updating the thread for XSS, I have to update more stuff.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 09, 2020, 02:23 PM
No way is that true. Thats waaaay to expensive
i mean, the xbx branding means ms probably takes a cut.  so like all proprietary solutions things are overpriced.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 09, 2020, 03:49 PM
Updated with images.

And I hate how the XSS's image is wider.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Legend on Sep 11, 2020, 01:21 AM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-stand-under-the-xbox-series-x-will-not-be-removable.284186


I think I'll find a way to keep it vertical!

Or side mounting it could be cool.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 11, 2020, 01:36 AM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-stand-under-the-xbox-series-x-will-not-be-removable.284186


I think I'll find a way to keep it vertical!

Or side mounting it could be cool.
Thanks, I hate it.

I really do.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 11, 2020, 01:09 PM
There's this picture going around:
(https://i.redd.it/6r9y2a4nrem51.jpg)


Pretty sure it's fake, this guy thinks the other Xbox codename is for xCloud.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 11, 2020, 01:45 PM
There's this picture going around:
(https://i.redd.it/6r9y2a4nrem51.jpg)


Pretty sure it's fake, this guy thinks the other Xbox codename is for xCloud.

my opinion is that when that controller leaked that confirmed the series s we'd also have seen a series v if it existed.   i think this is 100% BS.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 11, 2020, 01:57 PM
my opinion is that when that controller leaked that confirmed the series s we'd also have seen a series v if it existed.   i think this is 100% BS.
It definitely is.  
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Mmm_fish_tacos on Sep 11, 2020, 03:22 PM
Series v?
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 11, 2020, 08:52 PM
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Legend on Sep 11, 2020, 10:18 PM


Haha that's great!
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 12, 2020, 09:54 AM
Part 1 (https://streamable.com/3i8ud0)

Part 2 (https://streamable.com/ogjm82)

Part 3 (https://streamable.com/pd4lme)

Part 4 (https://streamable.com/govb9n)

Original media release for XSS. (News briefings)
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 12, 2020, 10:10 AM
Part 1 (http://"https://streamable.com/3i8ud0")

Part 2 (http://"https://streamable.com/ogjm82")

Part 3 (http://"https://streamable.com/pd4lme")

Part 4 (http://"https://streamable.com/govb9n")

Original media release for XSS.
Links don't work
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Xevross on Sep 12, 2020, 10:11 AM
Links don't work
Its just the videos that would have been sent to news outlets explaining the announcements which got leaked this week (XSS & price, XSX price, EA play coming to game pass)
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 12, 2020, 10:14 AM
Links don't work
Fixed.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Legend on Sep 14, 2020, 04:14 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/an-ign-headline-about-the-xbox-family-of-consoles-is-blowing-minds-on-twitter.286208/



Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 14, 2020, 04:36 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/an-ign-headline-about-the-xbox-family-of-consoles-is-blowing-minds-on-twitter.286208/




lol, this is a technical caveat for the kind of gamer that cares about this.  MS's marketing message is "Backward Compatible!".    ...but yes that headline is quite hard to read even for a guy like me who is very much in the know.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 14, 2020, 05:00 PM
So basically it's worse than x1x for everything other than series games
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Legend on Sep 14, 2020, 05:12 PM
So basically it's worse than x1x for everything other than series games
Series games matter the most tho
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 14, 2020, 06:09 PM
So basically it's worse than x1x for everything other than series games
well, all it's really saying is series s would need to be optimized differently than xbox one x.  it would seem that MS is going to make series s specific optimizations but 3rd parties are not.  makes sense,.. why would they when there is no money it it for them and the customer for series s is the customer that chose to not prioritize great graphics over price.

xbox is going to be a real drag on development budgets with their separate optimizations required for: xbox one s, xbox one x, xbox series s, xbox series x.    cross gen was bad enough when there wasn't two spec's per generation.  good thing ms is marking the xbox series x as a thing that mostly just increases resolution and framerates because that will be easier for developers to deal with if they simply target series s as lead xbox platform.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Xevross on Sep 14, 2020, 06:28 PM
So basically it's worse than x1x for everything other than series games
In terms of raw power only its CPU is better than X, but everything is on newer and more efficient architecture. It means that games optimised for it will be better but it will run unoptimised games worse.

well, all it's really saying is series s would need to be optimized differently than xbox one x.  it would seem that MS is going to make series s specific optimizations but 3rd parties are not.  makes sense,.. why would they when there is no money it it for them and the customer for series s is the customer that chose to not prioritize great graphics over price.

xbox is going to be a real drag on development budgets with their separate optimizations required for: xbox one s, xbox one x, xbox series s, xbox series x.    cross gen was bad enough when there wasn't two spec's per generation.  good thing ms is marking the xbox series x as a thing that mostly just increases resolution and framerates because that will be easier for developers to deal with if they simply target series s as lead xbox platform.
Yes I think a lot of third parties will just lower and lower resolution, texture quality and things like that until it runs well. They won't bother with any serious optimisation, especially if series S sells worse than expected. It'll lead to a lot of series S games not looking good.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 14, 2020, 07:46 PM
Series games matter the most tho
I guess... But Ms has been making a big deal out of BC
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 14, 2020, 08:17 PM
In terms of raw power only its CPU is better than X, but everything is on newer and more efficient architecture. It means that games optimised for it will be better but it will run unoptimised games worse.
Yes I think a lot of third parties will just lower and lower resolution, texture quality and things like that until it runs well. They won't bother with any serious optimisation, especially if series S sells worse than expected. It'll lead to a lot of series S games not looking good.
kind of like the current xbox one s..
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 15, 2020, 12:03 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh6dBRoWkAIhzfD?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 15, 2020, 12:08 AM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-series-s-x-brand-new-official-pages-wi-fi-5-ac-confirmed.286544/
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: nnodley on Sep 15, 2020, 12:08 AM
man, that series S is just goofy looking as fudge.

i'm probably gonna get a series X at some point.  Even though i have an RTX gpu and monster cpu, gaming on a console is just so much more convenient.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Legend on Sep 17, 2020, 04:23 AM
2 days before ps5. Closest next gen launch ever?

Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 23, 2020, 04:15 PM
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Legend on Sep 23, 2020, 04:27 PM

Not sure I'd ever use that feature, but it's a nice addition.

Wonder if xbox disc install times will be even slower this gen?
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 23, 2020, 04:31 PM
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: DerNebel on Sep 23, 2020, 04:35 PM

Now will they actually have him play a new game or will they just drag out Gears 5 and Ori or whatever again...?
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Xevross on Sep 23, 2020, 06:01 PM
Not sure I'd ever use that feature, but it's a nice addition.

Wonder if xbox disc install times will be even slower this gen?
I would use it all the frickin time, sounds amazing!
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 23, 2020, 06:10 PM
since 100% of my library is digital this does nothing for me.  decent idea though for the rift raft that still uses discs..
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 23, 2020, 06:21 PM
since 100% of my library is digital this does nothing for me.  decent idea though for the rift raft that still uses discs..
I think it might still be nice for digital owners.  
It would waste a lot of bandwidth, but I could see downloading a title I was interested in that I couldn't afford at the time and pay for it later and play it right away.

I doubt I'd do it often, but the option is still kind of nice.


(especially if you're a low class worker like I used to be.  :'( )
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 23, 2020, 06:32 PM
I think it might still be nice for digital owners.  
It would waste a lot of bandwidth, but I could see downloading a title I was interested in that I couldn't afford at the time and pay for it later and play it right away.

I doubt I'd do it often, but the option is still kind of nice.


(especially if you're a low class worker like I used to be.  :'( )
well, again not for me.   

not to be an dog here but i'm rich enough that budgeting isn't a thing i have to worry about.  i'll never be in the situation of waiting to buy something until i have the cash.  i'll just buy it when i want it.  for me the remote download has been the thing that has far more utility.  I buy the game while at work using the PC version of the store and the game is installed by the time i get home from work.  i've used that a few times.

again,.. i'm fully supportive of this idea.  just not a thing that give me any benefit.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 24, 2020, 11:52 AM
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Legend on Sep 25, 2020, 05:42 AM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701591546679656520/758914880631341056/seriesxegg.png)
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 28, 2020, 12:17 AM
(https://abload.de/img/ss01udjcu.png)
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 04, 2020, 10:14 PM
News on Monday apparently.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: kitler53 on Oct 04, 2020, 10:37 PM
News on Monday apparently.
so which studio did they buy now?  ubisoft?  EA?  bungie?  nintendo?
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Oct 05, 2020, 01:23 AM
News on Monday apparently.
News?
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 05, 2020, 01:58 AM
News?
No idea.  Geoff said there was going to be some kind of post on Xbox's website.  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/geoff-keighley-with-aaron-greenberg-on-game-pink-live-xbox-news-via-blogpost-on-monday-video-timestamped.300422/

Nothing major
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: DerNebel on Oct 05, 2020, 03:10 PM
No idea.  Geoff said there was going to be some kind of post on Xbox's website.  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/geoff-keighley-with-aaron-greenberg-on-game-pink-live-xbox-news-via-blogpost-on-monday-video-timestamped.300422/

Nothing major
Just some fluff piece.

Ten New Titles, Critical Acclaim, and Exceptional Engagement Mark a Record Year for Xbox Game Studios - Xbox Wire (https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/10/05/a-record-year-for-xbox-game-studios/)
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: kitler53 on Oct 05, 2020, 03:16 PM
Just some fluff piece.

Ten New Titles, Critical Acclaim, and Exceptional Engagement Mark a Record Year for Xbox Game Studios - Xbox Wire (https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/10/05/a-record-year-for-xbox-game-studios/)
reads the "10 xbox game studio launches in 2020" section and really wonder who the fudge things those 10 games are worth $180.   the most i'd play for access to those titles is $20.  basically ori is the only game worth playing to me.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Legend on Oct 05, 2020, 03:20 PM
reads the "10 xbox game studio launches in 2020" section and really wonder who the fudge things those 10 games are worth $180.   the most i'd play for access to those titles is $20.  basically ori is the only game worth playing to me.
I'd enjoy playing more than Ori but yeah funky list. Lots of Halo pc ports.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 05, 2020, 03:29 PM
Just some fluff piece.

Ten New Titles, Critical Acclaim, and Exceptional Engagement Mark a Record Year for Xbox Game Studios - Xbox Wire (https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/10/05/a-record-year-for-xbox-game-studios/)
Figured.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: DerNebel on Oct 05, 2020, 03:32 PM
reads the "10 xbox game studio launches in 2020" section and really wonder who the fudge things those 10 games are worth $180.   the most i'd play for access to those titles is $20.  basically ori is the only game worth playing to me.
I'm sure on PC many would argue for Flight Sim, but yeah... Gamepass is making mediocre games a lot more acceptable. It's one of the reason why I don't care at all about the idea of Sony first party games going to a similar service day 1. I want games that excite me enough to pay full price for, not meh games that I'd play because I'm paying the subscription anyways.

"Game XYZ is perfect for Gamepass" is basically a giant backhanded compliment.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: kitler53 on Oct 05, 2020, 03:37 PM
I'm sure on PC many would argue for Flight Sim, but yeah... Gamepass is making mediocre games a lot more acceptable. It's one of the reason why I don't care at all about the idea of Sony first party games going to a similar service day 1. I want games that excite me enough to pay full price for, not meh games that I'd play because I'm paying the subscription anyways.

"Game XYZ is perfect for Gamepass" is basically a giant backhanded compliment.
I don't want to be too mean to flight sim because I do believe there is an audience for it. but I wouldn't play it if you payed me $60.  simulating a flight just sounds like hell to me.

lol, yes that is a huge backhanded compliment.  it's on gamepass because its not worth paying for.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Xevross on Oct 05, 2020, 04:45 PM
reads the "10 xbox game studio launches in 2020" section and really wonder who the fudge things those 10 games are worth $180.   the most i'd play for access to those titles is $20.  basically ori is the only game worth playing to me.
They're not supposed to be, that's why game pass has lots more games and benefits included.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 06, 2020, 10:05 AM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lestream-xbox-series-x-is-hot.301070/

This will probably be the trade-off. PS5 will probably tend to be cooler
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Xevross on Oct 06, 2020, 11:01 AM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lestream-xbox-series-x-is-hot.301070/

This will probably be the trade-off. PS5 will probably tend to be cooler

Yeah dang

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"Yet even with the console powered off, Series X stills dissipate heat from that top vent, owing to its optional "always on" mode, and I learned that by resting the gamepad on the venting array overnight, then picking up the controller and feeling that it was warm (not hot) 10 hours after I'd powered the console down."
So much for series X being done by engineering magicians at xbox, there's always a trade off. I saw people saying that and thought how about we wait until we actually have the console to say its an amazing piece of engineering work.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Legend on Oct 07, 2020, 11:35 PM
I think I might stick with series x and not upgrade my computer this holiday. Just sounds like such a stress free solution compared to finding an rtx 3070.
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Legend on Oct 08, 2020, 02:44 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ejze-xdWoAEvuKp?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Xbox Series |OT|
Post by: Xevross on Oct 08, 2020, 03:04 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ejze-xdWoAEvuKp?format=jpg&name=large)
Even the box is chunky!
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Post by: Legend on Oct 09, 2020, 02:59 PM
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Post by: kitler53 on Oct 09, 2020, 03:16 PM

let me start by saying i liked the commercial..

...but it is very, very similar to what playstation has been doing for generations now.
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Post by: Dr. Pezus on Oct 09, 2020, 03:47 PM

Taking a page out of sony's book
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Post by: Xevross on Oct 09, 2020, 03:50 PM

Xbox finally trying to compete in Europe.
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Post by: Xevross on Oct 12, 2020, 08:50 AM
Some real official Series X gameplay in Dirt 5:




https://www.resetera.com/threads/dirt-5-xbox-series-x-4k-gameplay-ice-drifting-and-rally-racing.304655/

Looks pretty good, definitely impressed with the graphics in the high fidelity mode. However the Era thread points out the game looks bad sometimes in a couple of the modes and suffers from a lot of issues like shadow pop-in.

Here's the 4K quality mode:




4K performance mode:




1440p 120fps mode:




iirc all these modes are available on PS5 too.
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Post by: kitler53 on Oct 12, 2020, 02:21 PM
Some real official Series X gameplay in Dirt 5:




https://www.resetera.com/threads/dirt-5-xbox-series-x-4k-gameplay-ice-drifting-and-rally-racing.304655/

Looks pretty good, definitely impressed with the graphics in the high fidelity mode. However the Era thread points out the game looks bad sometimes in a couple of the modes and suffers from a lot of issues like shadow pop-in.

Here's the 4K quality mode:




4K performance mode:




1440p 120fps mode:




iirc all these modes are available on PS5 too.
i really can't see the shadow pop-ins ect.  all i can see is the 16 and 10 second load times.   horrible stuff there.
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Post by: Xevross on Oct 12, 2020, 02:24 PM
i really can't see the shadow pop-ins ect.  all i can see is the 16 and 10 second load times.   horrible stuff there.
Think the shadow pop in was from other videos, there's a lot of previews that went up.

Yeah loading screens of 5 seconds+ just shouldn't be a thing on next gen, its a clear sign of a game that's not been developed for next gen first.
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Post by: kitler53 on Oct 12, 2020, 02:32 PM
Think the shadow pop in was from other videos, there's a lot of previews that went up.

Yeah loading screens of 5 seconds+ just shouldn't be a thing on next gen, its a clear sign of a game that's not been developed for next gen first.
well, it will be interesting to see what the ps5 numbers are.  maybe it's half or less on ps5 since ps5 has the faster SSD and is better architected for getting data off of the SDD.  the load time wasn't "terrible".  just a lot worse than i would have expected considering load times is such a huge part of the current marking for next gen games.
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Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 12, 2020, 02:46 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/first-unofficial-xbox-series-x-unboxing.304781/

Unboxing the Xboxing.
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Post by: kitler53 on Oct 12, 2020, 02:59 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/first-unofficial-xbox-series-x-unboxing.304781/

Unboxing the Xboxing.
i never understood why people want to see an unboxing video.  it's just packaging and we already know "what's included" for a long time time.  it's just dumb...

...and yes.  of course i watched it.
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Post by: Xevross on Oct 12, 2020, 03:02 PM
i never understood why people want to see an unboxing video.  it's just packaging and we already know "what's included" for a long time time.  it's just dumb...

...and yes.  of course i watched it.
Unboxing your own console is one of the most exciting things, I don't want to be spoiled with a shaming video!
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Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 12, 2020, 03:03 PM
Unboxing your own console is one of the most exciting things, I don't want to be spoiled with a shaming video!
Dang right!  
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Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 12, 2020, 06:44 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/alanah-pearce-xbox-series-x-gameplay-demo-speed-test.304991/

Some BC issues. Still a month left to fix this stuff but it's surprising.
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Post by: kitler53 on Oct 12, 2020, 09:08 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/alanah-pearce-xbox-series-x-gameplay-demo-speed-test.304991/

Some BC issues. Still a month left to fix this stuff but it's surprising.
she's about the 5th person i've heard say crashes are frequent.  i'm officially "concerned".
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Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 15, 2020, 12:39 PM
Xbox embargo today.
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Post by: Dr. Pezus on Oct 15, 2020, 09:07 PM
Xbox embargo today.
And?
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Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 16, 2020, 05:21 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/phil-spencer-on-porting-further-xbox-games-to-switch-%E2%80%9Cit-doesn%E2%80%99t-feel-sustainable.307639/

Basically no more games on other platforms unless they can bring over Gamepass.
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Post by: kitler53 on Oct 16, 2020, 06:10 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/phil-spencer-on-porting-further-xbox-games-to-switch-%E2%80%9Cit-doesn%E2%80%99t-feel-sustainable.307639/

Basically no more games on other platforms unless they can bring over Gamepass.
hardly surprising but also BS.
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Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 16, 2020, 08:16 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-spencer-expects-series-s-to-be-the-bigger-long-term-hit.307657/

Quote
The $300 Xbox Series S is the twist. It's a smaller, cheaper unit, priced like a new Nintendo console, which tend to be innovative but under-powered. Microsoft boasts that the Series S will run cutting-edge games at high framerates, though not in 4K like the Series X. And unlike the Series X, it doesn't have a disc drive, and comes with 512GB of storage compared to the X's 1TB. It's a big step up from the main Xbox One on the market now, but it's certainly a stripped down Series X. It was only officially announced a month ago.

At launch, Spencer expects the X to be the hotter seller, driven by the kinds of early adopters who snatch new consoles
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Post by: Legend on Oct 16, 2020, 11:11 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-spencer-expects-series-s-to-be-the-bigger-long-term-hit.307657/
doubt meme
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Post by: kitler53 on Oct 16, 2020, 11:28 PM
doubt meme
same.  i have to agree with whatever sony exec said the lesser sku has a history of not selling as well.  for that too be true the premium sku need to be really premium.  the series x is "identical" to ps5 so the series s is gimped.  no one will ever view it as anything else except the consolation console for people too poor to afford the good stuff.  
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Post by: Legend on Oct 16, 2020, 11:43 PM
same.  i have to agree with whatever sony exec said the lesser sku has a history of not selling as well.  for that too be true the premium sku need to be really premium.  the series x is "identical" to ps5 so the series s is gimped.  no one will ever view it as anything else except the consolation console for people too poor to afford the good stuff.  
Plus its shelf life is limited. 4 years from now Series X will feel ok and series s will feel like a console at the end of its life. Series S needs to have a great 2021 if it's going to beat Series X long term.
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Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 19, 2020, 11:08 PM
And?
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Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 20, 2020, 02:19 PM
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Post by: kitler53 on Oct 20, 2020, 02:47 PM

still odd they don't have it ready for launch but at least it isn't too long of a wait.
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Post by: Dr. Pezus on Oct 20, 2020, 09:44 PM

Hinting at at least two modes (performance and quality)
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Post by: Legend on Oct 21, 2020, 08:10 PM


Not sure if it's a bit too slow, the combat looks uninteresting, but I'm somewhat excited for Scorn.
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Post by: kitler53 on Oct 21, 2020, 08:31 PM


Not sure if it's a bit too slow, the combat looks uninteresting, but I'm somewhat excited for Scorn.
am i the only person that can't watch this?    It says "Video Unavailable: the video is restricted.  Try signing in with your G Suite account".
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Post by: Legend on Oct 21, 2020, 10:13 PM
am i the only person that can't watch this?    It says "Video Unavailable: the video is restricted.  Try signing in with your G Suite account".
The video is rated mature so you have to be logged in. Pretty common with a lot of official game trailers.
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Post by: kitler53 on Oct 21, 2020, 11:48 PM
The video is rated mature so you have to be logged in. Pretty common with a lot of official game trailers.
I was logged in..
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Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 21, 2020, 11:51 PM
I was logged in..
Didn't realize you were 16.

Poor Kitler. /s
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Post by: kitler53 on Oct 22, 2020, 12:49 AM
Didn't realize you were 16.

Poor Kitler. /s
we'll I was able to watch on my phone. 

great art and graphics,. especially the lighting.  horrible gameplay.  I wouldn't buy this. 
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Post by: Legend on Oct 22, 2020, 02:22 AM
we'll I was able to watch on my phone.

great art and graphics,. especially the lighting.  horrible gameplay.  I wouldn't buy this.
Great for gamepass though.

Spoiler for Hidden:
<br>lol<br><div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px"><div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px"><b>Spoiler</b> for <i>Hidden</i>: <input type="button" value="Show" style="width:60px;font-size:10px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" onClick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = ''; this.value = 'Hide'; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = 'none'; this.value = 'Show'; }"></div><div class="alt2" style="margin: 0px; padding: 6px; border: 1px inset;"><div style="display: none;"><br>But actually kinda great. Can try it out like a demo and see if the trailers just aren&#39;t good at selling the gameplay.<br></div></div></div><br>
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Post by: kitler53 on Oct 22, 2020, 03:07 AM
Great for gamepass though.

Spoiler for Hidden:

lol
Spoiler for Hidden:

But actually kinda great. Can try it out like a demo and see if the trailers just aren't good at selling the gameplay.


oh yes, gamepass.   the service you pay for to get games you wouldn't pay for...
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Post by: Legend on Oct 22, 2020, 03:37 AM
oh yes, gamepass.   the service you pay for to get games you wouldn't pay for...
That's how they get ya.