Major Nelson and Phil Spencer always came across as fake to me. They say what Xbox gamers want to hear and are successful at it. I just don't buy their "we are gamers like you" bs and everything they do is for the gamers first while every move they make is to maximise their profits and destroy competition.
Phil Spencer does play games at least.
But he doesn't seem as passionate about games in the way that Shuhei Yoshida was. Like there are pictures of Shuhei checking out Nintendo demos and he has a Nintendo Switch.
I feel like there's a scale between Jim Ryan who doesn't play games and Shuhei who plays a lot.
Phil seems to be in the middle.