Video Game Sales Thread

[BananaKing]

can somebody explain how a third party scam effects hourly charts?

[Rorono]

can somebody explain how a third party scam effects hourly charts?

I guess any purchase is taken into account on the top. Which is weird cause then even cancelled purchases will do that.

[Dr. Pezus]

I guess any purchase is taken into account on the top. Which is weird cause then even cancelled purchases will do that.

Indeed. Maybe XB1 has been artificially high for a long time without us knowing??

[Xevross]

$200 listing just appeared

[ethomaz]

It's still odd to have such a big jump. But a whole bunch of games did come out yesterday. Bu

It started to go up after the work time (6pm) in US PT.

[ethomaz]

$200 listing just appeared

I can't see it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00BGA9WK2/ref=zg_bs_videogames_price?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Destiny Bundle have a $400 one but I think it is legit.

[Xevross]

I can't see it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00BGA9WK2/ref=zg_bs_videogames_price?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Destiny Bundle have a $400 one but I think it is legit.

Yeah it was quickly removed

[darkknightkryta]

walmart and target must be losing a ton on these promotions.......

Microsoft is losing all these monies.  I can't remember who posted the article, but Microsoft is standing to lose over a billion dollars from this.

[Raven]

Microsoft is losing all these monies.  I can't remember who posted the article, but Microsoft is standing to lose over a billion dollars from this.

fudge that. A billion dollars just to try and bounce back in a single nation? Dead serious, if I was an investor I would be calling for heads to roll and the division shut down at the end of the generation with no additional money dumping into a losing battle. Just ride it out.

[Rorono]

A billion? that can't be right? In no way is it even worth it, they'd have to lose another billion and slash to 250 + 2 free games to actually keep the effect after December

[darkknightkryta]

A billion? that can't be right? In no way is it even worth it, they'd have to lose another billion and slash to 250 + 2 free games to actually keep the effect after December

Well when you look at it, all those free games have to be paid to the publisher.  Marketing, commercials, etc.  Plus the Xbox One isn't cheap to actually make.  Even without Kinect, it's actually more expensive to produce than the PS4.  So they're taking, possibly a 50 dollar loss with each Xbox with the price cut, minimum.  60 ~120 dollars extra per bundle because of the extra games.  They geared up production in hopes of selling a million a week leading up to Christmas.  Let's say on average 200 dollar loss per Xbox, they're gonna lose at least 800 million (Assuming they sell through 4 million units).  This doesn't include marketing, and the deals they already made; giving money to Ubisoft for Unity for instance.

[ethomaz]

One billion is too much.

But I guess Xbox One costs to MS ~$350.

So for each console sold at $330 they need to pay a bit for the console and more two game license... so yeap it can be close to $100 lost with each console sold.

If they sell 1 million console that will means 100 million dollars lost.

They need to sell 10 million consoles to loose 1 billion.

[Rorono]

Well when you look at it, all those free games have to be paid to the publisher.  Marketing, commercials, etc.  Plus the Xbox One isn't cheap to actually make.  Even without Kinect, it's actually more expensive to produce than the PS4.  So they're taking, possibly a 50 dollar loss with each Xbox with the price cut, minimum.  60 ~120 dollars extra per bundle because of the extra games.  They geared up production in hopes of selling a million a week leading up to Christmas.  Let's say on average 200 dollar loss per Xbox, they're gonna lose at least 800 million (Assuming they sell through 4 million units).  This doesn't include marketing, and the deals they already made; giving money to Ubisoft for Unity for instance.

I think you are overestimating how many X1s they'll sell..

[ethomaz]

Ohhhhh no PS4 dropped to #4.

[darkknightkryta]

I think you are overestimating how many X1s they'll sell..

I'm not, Microsoft is XD.

They're going to have 10 million shipped to retailers at the end of the holidays, or so Spencer's vague comments say.  It sold about 6.5 million units to date.  Assuming VGChartz isn't undertracked.  That's about 4 million Xbox Ones to sell for the holidays.

@ethomaz I think the Xbox One costs over 400 to make, packaged and ready to go.  Also, 350 would be the bill of materials at the low end costs.  It costs Sony about 350 to package a PS4.  Considering the Xbox One will always cost more to manufacture, volume pricing being less than what Sony's getting, Microsoft is losing At least 50 bucks per console at that price drop.  Loss of 50 dollars per console, 2 bundled console will run an additional 120.  That's close to 200 lost per console.  4 million more shipped will run Microsoft about 800 million.  Add marketing, marketing other people's games (Unity), paying people, etc, costs will be about a billion.