Bloodborne: 92...

Started by Raven, Jun 15, 2014, 05:26 PM

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Legend

Man that "special" boss is sure something.

The souls games have always had magic, but this takes it to a new level of complexity. Killed it and now Neverdies thinks the game is about Cthulhu.

DerNebel

Quote from: DD_Bwest on Mar 25, 2015, 09:29 PM
rofl i have found a number of guys that can be cheesed thru a doorway :P   gonna wait till tonight before i challenge either of the bosses again, but im feeling pretty good about my chances, Ive leveled a bunch and upgraded my weapon. and i think ive fully explored the first area, i cant really find anywhere else to go other then the 2 bosses, unless im missing it lol

I fight the ogres with the bricks no probrem now without molotovs aswell.   Does anyone know how big a difference the Oil Urns make?
Used one on the Cleric Beast, I think it tripled or quadrupled the Molotovs damage, but don't quote me on that. :D

Anyway I've just beaten the cleric beast with some help of Father Gascoigne, whom I accidently summoned, I remember Dark Souls' beginning being a lot harder than the later game, but for me personally this was way harder than Dark Souls' beginning, maybe I shouldn't have chosen the threaded cane as my weapon, lol.

Raven

I finally stopped being reckless and actually took my time getting through the enemies. I avoided going down the bridge with the werewolves that leads to the boss and went to the other side. I did a little exploring and accidentally fell down onto a wooden overhang. I couldn't get back up so the only way to go was down several more until I realized there was a ladder to take down. I found myself in a sewer system with giant rats and lanky, almost skeleton-like monsters. I stayed up top and took out the skeleton guys. Dropped down onto a wooden beam to grab an item. Then I dropped down, killed a giant rat, only to get two-shot by another skeleton guy I didn't see behind me with a nasty spike. Dear god where is the next checkpoint?! lol

Legend

Quote from: Raven on Mar 25, 2015, 10:00 PM
I finally stopped being reckless and actually took my time getting through the enemies. I avoided going down the bridge with the werewolves that leads to the boss and went to the other side. I did a little exploring and accidentally fell down onto a wooden overhang. I couldn't get back up so the only way to go was down several more until I realized there was a ladder to take down. I found myself in a sewer system with giant rats and lanky, almost skeleton-like monsters. I stayed up top and took out the skeleton guys. Dropped down onto a wooden beam to grab an item. Then I dropped down, killed a giant rat, only to get two-shot by another skeleton guy I didn't see behind me with a nasty spike. Dear god where is the next checkpoint?! lol

Did you find the super rat at the far end of that sewage place?

Raven

Quote from: Legend on Mar 25, 2015, 10:06 PM
Did you find the super rat at the far end of that sewage place?

I found a guy that can kill me in two hits. Does that count?

DD_Bwest

Quote from: DerNebel on Mar 25, 2015, 09:55 PM
Used one on the Cleric Beast, I think it tripled or quadrupled the Molotovs damage, but don't quote me on that. :D

Anyway I've just beaten the cleric beast with some help of Father Gascoigne, whom I accidently summoned, I remember Dark Souls' beginning being a lot harder than the later game, but for me personally this was way harder than Dark Souls' beginning, maybe I shouldn't have chosen the threaded cane as my weapon, lol.
nice, ive got 6 of them right now lol   im hoping i can do some real damage to him with a couple of those and a buncha molotovs

Quote from: Legend on Mar 25, 2015, 10:06 PM
Did you find the super rat at the far end of that sewage place?
super rat?  isnt it a super pig?   
Quote from: Raven on Mar 25, 2015, 10:00 PM
I finally stopped being reckless and actually took my time getting through the enemies. I avoided going down the bridge with the werewolves that leads to the boss and went to the other side. I did a little exploring and accidentally fell down onto a wooden overhang. I couldn't get back up so the only way to go was down several more until I realized there was a ladder to take down. I found myself in a sewer system with giant rats and lanky, almost skeleton-like monsters. I stayed up top and took out the skeleton guys. Dropped down onto a wooden beam to grab an item. Then I dropped down, killed a giant rat, only to get two-shot by another skeleton guy I didn't see behind me with a nasty spike. Dear god where is the next checkpoint?! lol
I fell where you fell lol,  took a while but i got out of there.   the guy that killed you can be nasty, if they get you a certain way theyll hit you consecutivly until you die lol i got really pissed

Legend

Quote from: DD_Bwest on Mar 25, 2015, 10:10 PM
nice, ive got 6 of them right now lol   im hoping i can do some real damage to him with a couple of those and a buncha molotovs
super rat?  isnt it a super pig?    I fell where you fell lol,  took a while but i got out of there.   the guy that killed you can be nasty, if they get you a certain way theyll hit you consecutivly until you die lol i got really pissed

Could be a pig. Note I read said beware rat so that's what I thought it was.

DD_Bwest

Quote from: Legend on Mar 25, 2015, 10:18 PM
Could be a pig. Note I read said beware rat so that's what I thought it was.
the rats can attack in groups and can ravage you quickly if your not carful, but taken on one at a time are simple lol  the pig will mess you up :P

Legend

Quote from: DD_Bwest on Mar 25, 2015, 10:21 PM
the rats can attack in groups and can ravage you quickly if your not carful, but taken on one at a time are simple lol  the pig will mess you up :P

Well I just threw molotovs and killed it before it reached the end of the tunnel.

Raven

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LMAO Oh my fudgy gawd. Look at these horrible metacritic user reviews.

Quote"A shallow Monster Hunter clone with terrible clunky controls, dated looking graphics, TERRIBLE frame-rate. The game design is extremely poor, the flow of the game is stunted and uneven. Uses cheap gimmicks of artificial difficulty to extend a tedious and ultimately boring game."

A shallow Monster Hunter clone? This game is not even in the same fudgy genre. It's actually a spin-off clone of Demon's Souls... from the same fudgy pair of studios who started all this! Dated graphics? The game's visuals certainly won't get an award for technical achievement but calling them "dated" is a stretch.  Considering you don't even know what classification to NOT put this game in should I really waste time explaining why From Software aims for these visuals? I seriously doubt you put any amount of time in the game to be able to be a good source on the flow of the game but considering the game is pretty much "die...die again...then die some more" I think that's a pretty even flow. Cheap gimmicks of artificial difficulty? Like being punished for mistiming a dodge? Standing too close to a big enemy when they lunge at you? Not being careful about what enemies you pull and how many? If those are your ideas of cheap difficulty gimmicks then maybe you should just stick to playing anything made by Telltale.

Quote"There is no real reason why this game has to be difficult just for the sake of being difficult. Every game should be able to be enjoyed by everyone regardless of skill level not just those who want to feel "hardcore". Hopefully FROM takes that into account when they release their next game. Difficulty choices affects no one & everyone can play at a level they feel comfortable with. Because of that I can't recommend Bloodborne to those that just want to play & enjoy the game. Dying 50 times on the same boss is not fun. "

Boohoo. A game that was designed for hardcore gamers. What's next? You going to baby about all games not having a first-person view option? Not all games having guns?

Quote"Load times are what really chap my butt. After playing every souls game, this is the worst load times by far. It's also a bit too easy for me. Not a 9/10, but a solid 6/10"

Just for the record, this guy actually scored the game a 2/10 and then wrote a review calling it a solid 6/10.

Quote"I was absolutely excited to jump into bloodborne as I've heard and read so many great things

Boy what a letdown, cant believe I fell for the hype it's the same as all the other hackers out there!

The gameplay is so unbelievably repetitive and it just drags on and on and on and the story is just not my type of thing and immediately got bored within the first 30 minutes.

I've wasted good money on this and feel completely ripped off by listening to the endless worship of this game which is just like any other game of its genre out there, nothing new to see here at all.

Avoid!
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Clearly you didn't listen well enough and read enough articles to actually understand what this game is. It's a spin-off of Demon's Souls and Dark Souls by From Software. These games aren't just "more hackers". They have practically created a new genre of games. It's not only your own fault for not looking into what this game is and where its roots are but also completely failing to understand why it's also a step up from its predecessors.

Quote"When I review a game the most important thing to me is how fun the game is and how many others will find it fun.
After spending about 50 hours with bloodborne, I have a real problem with the media's reviews that overlook its flaws and what the majority of gamers like. The most popular games today GTA, Call of duty, sports games and racers all have one thing in common, they are easy to get into,control very well and have uncluttered interfaces. Bloodborne does have its strengths but it fails to be a game offering the full package presented in a no fuss and accessible way.
Bloodborne has some of the most imaginative characters,environments and enemies seen in a video game and has next gen graphics features such as reflective surfaces,more particle effects and higher overall polygon count which do these aspects some justice. However this does not look like a true next gen game but a PS3 game with some next gen features slapped on which does look good but nothing spectacular and no graphical show-piece for the PS4.
As far as the combat goes its rather wooden, you have to time your slashes and gunshots, and it all feels rather dated, it feels like a step backwards when compared to the destructive ballet found in god of war's combat. With practice it does get better but the whole process felt like a chore right from the very beginning, the saying ''easy to learn but hard to master'' is not in from softwares vocabulary.
The whole premise of the game somewhat mirrors the combat in the sense of how tedious it can be, you have these interesting looking environments with enemies that all feel the same minus the bosses, after a few hours with this game you feel like you have taken in all it has to offer.
So to sum up this review basically bloodborne is a game that feels that it started life last gen with poor combat,animation, frame rate and pacing issues and overall a very tedious game. After watching and reading other reviews they really cant take there own biased opinion out of it and really think how the rest of the gaming landscape is and how niche this style of game is. Bloodborne is a niche game like demon and dark souls before it and it seems the majority of reviewers are part of this niche which is not a true representation on the quality of this game.

If you like demon or dark souls you will probably like this to, if you like games like GTA,COD,SPORTS, AND EVEN FALLOUT I doubt this game will appeal to you
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So what you're basically saying is that since Bloodborne, and games like it, don't cater to casuals and dudebros with poor attention spans, generally weak gaming skills, and an overriding desire to feel temporarily macho before going back to their life where they are typically the opposite.... Bloodborne deserves a 3/10. I'm going to go ahead and ignore the rest of your critiques because they fall into the same tired arguments of "looks like a PS3 game", "is unnecessarily tedious (one of the genre's staples to make it for the hardcore)", and references to other games it's not like because it's not even in the same fudgy genre.

Quote"Extreme overyhype. Graphics engine is hardly improved since Dark Souls. Mechanics are not improved since Dark Souls, they are the same. And of course, the first monster you meet is unkillable without dying first and gaining who knows what esoteric knowledge to beat it. Typical FROM. I liked them better when they were making games like Enchanted Arms."

Apparently people can't seem to make up their minds how important graphics are and many seem pretty blind. Complaining about a game spun off from a series known for killing you repeatedly intending for you to die against the first enemy you meet? How desperate were you to say bad things about the game? Oh. You liked Enchanted Arms? Pretty sure that means you no longer have a valid opinion about anything game related.

DD_Bwest

reviews like that were expected though,  everytime you get a great game you will get people like that, especially since its a major exclusive. 


the load times need a fix though..  i almost fell asleep during one :P

7H3

"It's hip to be square." - Eurogamer<br />"Shut up its art!" -Legend

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DerNebel

So I've completely explored the first area now I believe, a couple hours into the game I'm starting to get the hang of it. I hope that not too many newcomers are going to be discouraged by the beginning of the game, you really gotta give it a few hours for it to click.

Also look at this: http://redditmetrics.com/r/bloodborne and this is from yesterday, it's past 20k by now, wonder how close it can get to Dark Souls 70k.