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I remember the days when free speech existed.  it was nicer times. 
         

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Elon Musk's Breeding Spree Is So Much Wilder Than You Thought


QuoteThe report leans heavily on the story of Ashley St. Clair, the conservative influencer who went public in February about having Musk's child. As recently as last month, Musk said he wasn't sure "if the child is mine or not." But the Journal's report is loaded with receipts, including text messages between Musk and St. Clair illustrating their relationship, as well as a paternity test result from last week showing there is a "99.9999%" chance that Musk is the father.

QuoteIn one text viewed by the Journal, Musk suggested during St. Clair's pregnancy that they move faster with their baby-making. "To reach legion-level before the apocalypse," Musk's message reportedly read, "we will need to use surrogates."

QuoteIn another, sent months after St. Clair delivered the baby, Musk reportedly replied to a selfie of St. Clair, writing, "I want to knock you up again."

QuoteIn a text message reported by the Journal, Musk wrote that privacy was necessary because he is "#2 after Trump for assassination" and that "only the paranoid survive."


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https://www.yahoo.com/news/musk-wants-leave-politics-because-141635474.html

QuoteElon Musk is reportedly set to leave his government role because he's tired of the what he sees as a litany of vicious and unethical attacks from the left, according to a report from The Washington Post.
It remains unclear when Musk will depart as head of the Department of Government Efficiency; his special government employee status will expire at the end of next month. A person familiar with his thinking told The Post that Musk thinks that his work at DOGE won't be diminished because of his departure, noting that staffers have already established themselves across a slew of federal agencies.
Quote"Musk needs to leave the government, take a major step back on DOGE, and get back to being CEO of Tesla full-time," Ives wrote to clients on Sunday, according to Bloomberg. "Tesla is Musk and Musk is Tesla....and anyone that thinks the brand damage Musk has inflicted is not a real thing, spend some time speaking to car buyers in the U.S., Europe, and Asia. You will think differently after those discussions."

"Tesla has unfortunately become a political symbol globally of the Trump Administration/DOGE," Ives added, going on to argue that the company faces "potentially 15 percent—20 percent permanent demand destruction for future Tesla buyers due to the brand damage Musk has created with DOGE."

kitler53

tesla reports financials today so we'll get a glimse.  remember Q1 covers the period before doge so whatever decline we see is likely not as bad as it really is.

personally i think "15 - 20% permanent demand destruction" is being very, very optimistic.   in my neighborhood the demand destruction is pretty close to 100% and we have tons of legacy tesla buyers.  rivian has made huuuge gains this year in my neighborhood.
         

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I rarely ever get emotional when it comes to politics, but hearing RFK talk about how chronic diseases like Autism is bankrupting the country, is one of the most chilling things I've ever heard.

kitler53

at the top of today's email:  "After careful consideration, we are proposing a reduction in our overall headcount costs of 10%."

thanks trump.  truly america's golden age is upon us.   


@sshole..
         

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QuoteFor a long period there, the world could look to you and Melinda and the foundation as icons of a certain set of values and a model of what to do with great wealth. Then we had Effective Altruism, which was even more aggressive about leveraging each dollar for maximum humanitarian impact, though many of those figures went on to obsess over different sets of questions, like the welfare of the planet's chickens or multiplanetary humans of the 23rd century. Now it's like, Who's the world's richest man? Elon Musk. And he's not giving much away, if anything, to the needs of the world's poor.

Well, he's the one who cut the U.S.A.I.D. budget. He put it in the wood chipper, because he didn't go to a party that weekend.

Technically he's still attached to the Giving Pledge, but I haven't seen evidence that he's actually committed to it.

The Giving Pledge — an unusual aspect of it that you can wait until you die and still fulfill it. So who knows? He could go on to be a great philanthropist. In the meantime, the world's richest man has been involved in the deaths of the world's poorest children.

The $200 Billion Gamble: Bill Gates's Plan to Wind Down His Foundation


Somehow I feel surprised by Bill Gates calling out Musk like this - "In the meantime, the world's richest man has been involved in the deaths of the world's poorest children"

kitler53

he's not wrong.   

world's richest man is gleefully dropping life saving aid so to get insignificant (to him) tax cut.   i don't believe in god but i believe any just god would send musk to hell.
         

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Quote from: kitler53 on Mar 11, 2025, 06:45 PMas a technology starlink is cool.  still not buying from musk or any service backboned by musk.  having a good product is not the only thing that goes into success.  you underestimate how much i HATE musk.  ...and i'm not alone.  in 2024 tesla sales flatlined.  in 2025 early sales data has it dropping nearly 50%. 

i guess you think this will blow over after a bit.  for me at least it won't. 
Stock is up a lot. My prediction was obviously long term, not just two months, but it's doing good again.

Now we just need the robotaxi launch next month to not have too many crashes.

kitler53

Quote from: Legend on May 12, 2025, 02:28 PMStock is up a lot. My prediction was obviously long term, not just two months, but it's doing good again.

Now we just need the robotaxi launch next month to not have too many crashes.
you know it has nothing to do with Tesla right? 

trump has been pumping the whole market with various tweets.  today's huge pump is announcing a reduction in China tariffs (145% to 30%) for 90 days.
         

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Quote from: kitler53 on May 12, 2025, 04:00 PMyou know it has nothing to do with Tesla right? 

trump has been pumping the whole market with various tweets.  today's huge pump is announcing a reduction in China tariffs (145% to 30%) for 90 days.
Sure ::) . The stock went from ~$230 to ~$300 way before today's bump to ~$320.

kitler53

Quote from: Legend on May 12, 2025, 05:45 PMSure ::) . The stock went from ~$230 to ~$300 way before today's bump to ~$320.
i don't know how to get this link to show you the 1 year but after you go here click on the "1Y" part of the chart.  I'll assume you know nothing and tell you that SPY is a ETF that basically tracks the S&P500.

https://www.google.com/search?q=spy+stock+1+year&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS1123US1125&oq=spy+stock+1+year&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIICAEQABgWGB4yDQgCEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyDQgDEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyDQgEEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyDQgFEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyCggGEAAYgAQYogQyCggHEAAYgAQYogQyCggIEAAYgAQYogQyCggJEAAYgAQYogTSAQg2NzgyajBqN6gCCLACAfEF8DOijm42fmjxBfAzoo5uNn5o&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

From Feb 19th to April 8th the market dropped 19% on trumps announcements of tariffs and especially reciprocal tariffs (the big drop on April 2).

From April 9th was trump announcement of the 90 day pause on tariffs and since then the market has gone up 17% with a 3% jump just today on china tariffs.


Feb 19th to Now SPY is down 5%
Feb 19th to Now Tesla is down 12%    tesla is underperforming the market.


         

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Quote from: kitler53 on May 12, 2025, 06:47 PMi don't know how to get this link to show you the 1 year but after you go here click on the "1Y" part of the chart.  I'll assume you know nothing and tell you that SPY is a ETF that basically tracks the S&P500.

https://www.google.com/search?q=spy+stock+1+year&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS1123US1125&oq=spy+stock+1+year&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIICAEQABgWGB4yDQgCEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyDQgDEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyDQgEEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyDQgFEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyCggGEAAYgAQYogQyCggHEAAYgAQYogQyCggIEAAYgAQYogQyCggJEAAYgAQYogTSAQg2NzgyajBqN6gCCLACAfEF8DOijm42fmjxBfAzoo5uNn5o&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

From Feb 19th to April 8th the market dropped 19% on trumps announcements of tariffs and especially reciprocal tariffs (the big drop on April 2).

From April 9th was trump announcement of the 90 day pause on tariffs and since then the market has gone up 17% with a 3% jump just today on china tariffs.


Feb 19th to Now SPY is down 5%
Feb 19th to Now Tesla is down 12%    tesla is underperforming the market.


March 11th was the day you thought buying tesla stock was a bad idea.

March 11th to now SPY is up 5%
March 11th to now TSLA is up 43%

It speaks for itself lol.