General Politics Thread

[the-pi-guy]

Trump's running mate J.D. Vance wants tax rebates for gas cars instead of EVs

[Legend]

Trump's running mate J.D. Vance wants tax rebates for gas cars instead of EVs

Not the stupidest proposal from him. (don't read that in a positive way towards this proposal)


It'll be interesting to see how quickly it sucks to own a gas car. Once the first gas station closes in like a decade, will the rest fall rapidly? Will people have to go out of their way to find a gas station like EV drivers used to do/currently do?

[Legend]

Biden has covid again and pretty much every top dem is trying to get him to drop out.

Will be crazy either way at this point.

[BananaKing]

I don't think it matters any more.

Biden has had plenty of good conferences, and seems like he's generally competent. Even completely competent people make mistakes like calling people the wrong names.

But the confidence is gone. Even the hardcore Democrats are pushing for him to step down. The people that aren't 100% convinced to vote for him, aren't.

I think at this point, either he steps down or Trump takes the presidency.

What? Biden is no where near competent.  The guy is too far gone. I dont know why he is running anyways. Go enjoy your last few years on a beach or something. Why waste them on a second term

[Legend]

President Biden may decide to drop out of the presidential race as soon as this weekend, according to several top Democrats who believe the rising pressure will persuade the 81-year-old. https://t.co/Czmy98XMvQ

— Axios (@axios) July 18, 2024

[nnodley]

he drops, trump is almost guaranteed a win.  Unless dems put up someone that is really great.  I can't see Kamala winning

[the-pi-guy]

he drops, trump is almost guaranteed a win.  Unless dems put up someone that is really great.  I can't see Kamala winning

Biden has generally been polling behind Trump, Kamala tends to poll ahead of Trump (although she apparently loses the 65+ age bracket, which is a solid voting bracket. Not sure how that would shake out in the end.)

I think a good alternate candidate could save the election.

Even amongst die-hard Democrats, they're concerned about Biden's age and mental wellbeing.  

[Legend]

he drops, trump is almost guaranteed a win.  Unless dems put up someone that is really great.  I can't see Kamala winning

Isn't Trump already almost guaranteed a win? A new candidate like Kamala is at least a reroll of the dice. She's pretty unpopular at the moment but she can still run as a fresh face and potentially change her image quickly.

Biden has generally been polling behind Trump, Kamala tends to poll ahead of Trump (although she apparently loses the 65+ age bracket, which is a solid voting bracket. Not sure how that would shake out in the end.)

I think a good alternate candidate could save the election.

Even amongst die-hard Democrats, they're concerned about Biden's age and mental wellbeing.  

I don't think Kamala is the best candidate but it'd be such a clusterfudge if the DNC tries to go for anyone else.

[nnodley]

Isn't Trump already almost guaranteed a win? A new candidate like Kamala is at least a reroll of the dice. She's pretty unpopular at the moment but she can still run as a fresh face and potentially change her image quickly.
I don't think Kamala is the best candidate but it'd be such a clusterfudge if the DNC tries to go for anyone else.

Eh i go back and forth on if I feel like trump is guaranteed.  I certainly think things have trended his way, but things are always in flux.  Kamala is likely the only option they should go for.  I've seen Newsom and Michelle Obama thrown around. I doubt Michelle would accept anything and Newsom doesn't seem to be well liked at all.

[kitler53]

People are generally not happy with biden.  A lot of that is BS because people always blame the president for bad economic conditions (read: inflation) even when they don't deserve any blame. 

Right now both candidates are pretty much hated by the moderate voters that will decide the election.  A new candidate isn't a guarantee to win the election but i think it stands a better chance especially if we fine a charismatic personality that isn't a rank and file democrat. 

I personally like kamala but I don't think she's the best canidate.  People don't like biden's handeling of the economy lately and she'll be viewed as no different since she's in the current administration.

I don't know who to elavate but literally anyone would be better than biden.

[the-pi-guy]

Election 2024 live updates: Kamala Harris selects Gov. Tim Walz as VP, AP sources say | AP News


Kamala Harris + Tim Walz
Donald Trump + JD Vance

[Legend]

 

No astronaut vice president

[kitler53]

i don't know much anything about walz but as someone originally from Mn I'm predisposed to like him.  

[nnodley]

No astronaut vice president

I know! I was kinda hoping she would pick him.

[the-pi-guy]

"He's still talking": Host jokes after Fox News cuts off Trump's rambling phone call


Even Fox News seems to be done with Trump.