General Politics Thread

[kitler53]

Trump Is Disqualified From the 2024 Ballot, Colorado Supreme Court Rules https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/19/us/politics/trump-colorado-ballot-14th-amendment.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

CO bans trump from the ballot.  

this will get appealed of course but this is a great precedent 

[Legend]

Trump Is Disqualified From the 2024 Ballot, Colorado Supreme Court Rules https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/19/us/politics/trump-colorado-ballot-14th-amendment.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

CO bans trump from the ballot.  

this will get appealed of course but this is a great precedent

I was hoping it wouldn't happen just since Colorado wouldn't vote for him anyway (crazy how fast Colorado switched from purple to solid blue) and this will make conspiracy nuts more energized.

But if it starts a legal precedent that January 6th was insurrection, that could definitely be great.

[Legend]

Don't know anything about the Maine case, but Trump was kicked off there as well.

[kitler53]

republicans weren't kicked off,.. only trump. 

[the-pi-guy]

I was hoping it wouldn't happen just since Colorado wouldn't vote for him anyway (crazy how fast Colorado switched from purple to solid blue) and this will make conspiracy nuts more energized.

But if it starts a legal precedent that January 6th was insurrection, that could definitely be great.

Maybe that was the intention.
Apparently the ones who brought the case weren't Democrats.

Donald Trump is disqualified from serving as president and barred from appearing on ballots for president in Colorado under the 14th Amendment, according to a Colorado Supreme Court ruling issued today in a case brought on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated Colorado voters by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and the firms Tierney Lawrence Stiles LLC, KBN Law, LLC and Olson Grimsley Kawanabe Hinchcliff & Murray LLC. This is the first time a presidential candidate has been disqualified or removed from a ballot under the 14th Amendment's disqualification clause.

sauce

[Legend]

Struck down by the surpreme court.

Good. They just said the 14th amendment is up to the federal government, not that Trump doesn't qualify.

[kitler53]

that is not a bad take tbh...

...but not that practical at stopping democracy backslide.   as we've seen via the impeachments there was no one wanting to hear the facts or faithfully execute the oath of office.   it was just "us vs them" and "loyalty".  in other words if a party is openly committing criminal behaviors there will be no accountability so long as the party is happy about openly committing criminal behaviors.  

like part of the reason republicans choose not to impeach is that "this is a matter for the courts" but trump main argument in the courts is "presidents have total immunity and can only be impeached".   it's just a big set of circular logic to ensure there is no accountability at all.    

[the-pi-guy]

Trump: Would you rather have the Black president or the white president? I think they want the white guy.
 pic.twitter.com/yYxLVJfOYU

— The Intellectualist (@highbrow_nobrow) April 3, 2024

[kitler53]

not even trying to hide it.  just overt racism.  

[Legend]

So things have been "exciting" for Biden. How do yall think this will play out?

A few hours till we might have an idea of which direction it goes.

[the-pi-guy]

A few hours till we might have an idea of which direction it goes.

What happens in a few hours?

[Legend]

What happens in a few hours?

He's just giving a generic press conference but everyone will be watching to see how he handles it.



Starting well. Just a small flub at least.

[the-pi-guy]

I don't think it matters any more.

Biden has had plenty of good conferences, and seems like he's generally competent. Even completely competent people make mistakes like calling people the wrong names.

But the confidence is gone. Even the hardcore Democrats are pushing for him to step down. The people that aren't 100% convinced to vote for him, aren't.

I think at this point, either he steps down or Trump takes the presidency.

[Legend]

Not too bad, not too good. Just makes it harder to know how things will go.

[kitler53]

trump has been able to string together a complete sentence for at least 10 years...