Nintendo's Next Console: Q1 or 2H 2025

[Legend]

Nintendo's Next Switch Coming This Year With LCD, Omdia Says -  BNN Bloomberg

8 inch screen

[Dr. Pezus]

Nintendo's Next Switch Coming This Year With LCD, Omdia Says -  BNN Bloomberg

8 inch screen

No OLED boo

[kitler53]

so just did a quick look up
- switch = 6.2 in
- switch OLED = 7 in
- steam deck = 7 in


...so at 8 in this is even bigger than the devices I deem too big to be portable.  many will probably cheer this but I find that quite disappointing.

[Legend]

Yeah that'd be pretty big. Phones just kept getting bigger so maybe people won't care.

[kitler53]

Yeah that'd be pretty big. Phones just kept getting bigger so maybe people won't care.

I"m not expecting others to be upset.  quite the opposite,.. I expect others to be thrilled.  even ask "why not bigger?!?". 

this is more of a me problem.   I don't like the huge phone sizes either.   I also buy the smallest version possible.   I was on the SE series of iPhones up until I switch to Android. 

[the-pi-guy]

Era thread

>[Nate the Hate] Nintendo 2024 Predictions: Switch 2 Reveal & Launch Timing, Back-Compat & More (ft. Digital Foundry)

Summary here

Nate and John's Predictions/Comments Summary:
He thinks it'll be a slower year for Nintendo Switch 1 releases as Nintendo prepares to release the next hardware. There will still be stuff to announce through Nintendo Directs or however Nintendo plans to release this info.

He thinks there will be a cross-gen period in 2025 as he doesn't think Luigi's Mansion 2 HD or Paper Mario TTYD Remake will be the last games on the Switch
No, the Switch 2 won't be at the next Direct. Nintendo would've announced it already

About the Partner Direct stuff: His exact comment/statement was "I'm going into this year's first Direct with the expectation of it being a Partner Direct. I think they will focus on 3rd party stuff more than 1st party". He did NOT definitively say that it IS a partner direct.

John from DF expects the same thing they did last time with the Switch 2 which is just a random teaser video popping up like they did with the Switch

Last Summer, Nate reported that there were whispers about something March 2024. As time has gone on, he's of the belief that this is the reveal of the Switch 2. He thinks it's happening in March because of Nintendo meeting with other developers or partners in GDC.

He thinks Nintendo will go heavy on June's Direct as they'll focus everything on Switch 2 because it'll allow them to give people (news outlets) previews and get a feel for the Switch 2. And with them possibly releasing it in Fall, it'll give Nintendo the opportunity to show off the Switch 2 tech in other future events that'll round out the year like TGS

Nate thinks if they launch in November, they'll possibly experience sellouts between November and March thanks to the Holiday Rush

John thinks there was too much smoke around the Switch Pro for it to not have been real. He thinks that they shifted gears due to getting cold feet and not wanting to botch the hardware or launch as they have to get the next Switch's launch right

He thinks as long as the Switch 2 is a competent system and delivers on the games and performance, it'll sell a ton and find the same success as the Switch.

John thinks Switch 2 will be much bigger than the Switch, which lines up with the rumors we saw about the screen size and the size implies a big chip. Nate comments on folks who might comment about the PS portal, mentions it not having much in it as it's mostly a screen. He said if Nintendo as an LCD that matches the PS Portal he'll be more than okay with it. John thinks if they chose the 8 inch screen, Nintendo did it to be able to house all the internals.

John also thinks battery life is a huge concern for Nintendo, he reminds folks that regardless of the demo tech they use, the battery life might not be the same for the retail units so he's curious to see what that battery runtime is. Nate agrees in regards to it being bigger.

Nate thinks the Switch 2 might just not have the JoyCons and that it'll be more similar to the likes of a ROG Ally. John agrees, says they weren't that big of a success and they were uncomfortable. He (John) mentions that he pretty much exclusively used a Pro Controller even when he was using the Switch portably. Nate mentions experiencing disconnects with his JoyCons as years have gone, even while housed on the Switch itself.

Nate asks John whether or not he thinks the lack of JoyCons would ruin the excitement of Switch 2, John says if you look into the numbers he thinks that people might've not used that tabletop feature that was shown off in the Switch reveal trailer. He, personally, thinks the wireless Joycon features wasn't used by people as much as Nintendo might've thought.

However, Nate does mention the success of Nintendo selling JoyCons, he thinks if they gave a controller in the Switch 2 box it'd dissuade people from buying accessories, which could be why we might still see JoyCons 2

Nate says Backwards Compatibility is going to be a feature on the Switch 2. His only fear is how they'll incorporate the eShop considering how terrible it is. His concern is them needing to overhaul the eShop because if they have BC, they'll need to support every game or almost every game and that's gonna be a lot to take on for the Switch 2. John thinks the same thing about the eShop (it being dire) as he feels like the eShop was only designed to be used in the first year of the Switch, lmao. Nate's hoping that Nintendo has a good approach to the eShop 2 but he's going in with the expectation that BC will be basic as in you can play your Switch 1 games on your Switch 2. He does not expect to see enhancements or performance boosts like we've seen with Xbox's backwards compatibility program.

he only thing Nate foresees is "if a game had unlocked frame rate, it would go to a higher frame rate by default". John was expecting for the Switch 2's power to fix performance problems, dynamic resolution scaling, in cases of unlocked frame rates it makes games 60fps and developers being able to patch games if they want. John thinks Nintendo is gonna be incredibly cautious with how they handle all of this, but expect to see some natural improvements.

Nate thinks there will be a ton of developers that, rather than doing a patch, will want to re-release their games with all the bells and whistles (Nintendo included, he uses Bayonetta 3 as an example) to recuperate the cost of fixing games rather than just dropping patches

[the-pi-guy]

Q5	Since the release of the Nintendo Switch, I think Nintendo's way of thinking about the hardware lifecycle has changed. Please tell us how it differs from past platforms and what you are focusing on as you proceed with the research and development of next-generation consoles.
A5	Furukawa: The big difference between the Nintendo Switch and past platforms is that we have integrated two platforms, a handheld game console and a home console, into one. This allowed us to focus our software development resources on the Nintendo Switch. The fact that we are able to continuously release new software has resulted in a longer life cycle than in the past. For the future, the most important thing for us is to provide entertainment with new fun and surprises that are unique to Nintendo. In order to continue to propose Nintendo's unique entertainment offerings, we believe that the dedicated game console business that integrates hardware and software is the best business at this time, and we will continue to engage in research and development based on this policy. Another difference from past platforms is the Nintendo Switch Even before the game's release, we have been working with DeNA to promote the use of Nintendo Accounts. Nintendo Accounts are an important point of contact for long-term connections with customers, and we believe that they can be used not only during hardware migrations, but also as a means of reconnecting with customers who have been away from games for a while and at some point become interested in Nintendo's unique entertainment proposals. From this point of view, I believe that the importance of Nintendo accounts will not change in the future.
Q9	Nintendo seems to have a solid system in terms of both game console initiatives and IP development efforts. However, looking back on the past, I think that external factors such as the advent of other companies' hardware and the expansion of mobile games also had an impact on Nintendo's business. Recently, new forms of entertainment have appeared, and the game itself continues to change. In the external environment surrounding Nintendo's business, are there any risks that we should be particularly aware of in the future?
A9	Furukawa: We always approach our business every day with a great sense of urgency. The generational change in platforms in the game console business is not an easy task. I've had a lot of very difficult experiences after a successful platform, so I don't feel like the current situation is solid at all. In addition, as you pointed out, our business is constantly exposed to fierce competition. In terms of entertainment in general, it is a tough industry where not only video games but also various forms of entertainment compete with each other. Under such circumstances, the need to continue to make unique proposals in the future and become a brand that customers can choose is greater than ever. In order to continue to propose original entertainment that can be enjoyed by customers around the world, we believe that the best course of action at this time is to continue the dedicated game console business that integrates hardware and software. Based on this idea, we are conducting various research and development, but our products, which are not essential for daily life, will not be turned around immediately if they are not interesting. For this reason, we recognize that it is important to continue our efforts to make Nintendo more accessible outside of game consoles, increase the number of customers who support Nintendo IP for a long time, and maintain a connection with our customers.

Era translation

[the-pi-guy]

Nate says that the plan is for a reveal next month.

[Dr. Pezus]

Nate says that the plan is for a reveal next month.

Who's Nate?

[Legend]

Who's Nate?

Uncharted main character

[the-pi-guy]

Who's Nate?

NateDrake, Era user and main character on Uncharted

NateTheHate else where

Uncharted main character

Barely even a joke.

[nnodley]

It's me! I'm Nate! It is my name after all

[Legend]

It's me! I'm Nate! It is my name after all

wow. I spent all these years thinking your name was nnodley

[the-pi-guy]

wow. I spent all these years thinking your name was nnodley

You'll be shocked to find out my name isn't Pi.

[kitler53]

Nate says that the plan is for a reveal next month.

Wait,.. so no update until march now?

haven't checked era yet but i have to imagine "even lying to us about when we'll be updated" is totally going go over well....