Nintendo Q2 2016 results: Wii U 340,000, 3DS 1,700,000

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Max King of the Wild

Quote from: ethomaz on Oct 30, 2016, 07:46 PMSorry but Nintendo never aimed 4K with a portable hardware.

It needs power to render in 720p and enhanced that in dock for HDTV. It will most delivery Xbox One's level of graphics in dock.
Xbox one is old technology. It has more ram too. Maybe being on par with it is not good. And again, 1 GB would be used by Win U's OS. Everyone should expect better OS with more social features than that.

ethomaz

Quote from: Max King of the Wild on Oct 30, 2016, 08:09 PMXbox one is old technology. It has more ram too. Maybe being on par with it is not good. And again, 1 GB would be used by Win U's OS. Everyone should expect better OS with more social features than that.
The OS is gaming focused only... not these social features found on Xbox One/PS4 from what I read.

How much of RAM 3DS or Vita uses??? It is be a portable OS and not a WiiU like.

3GB for gaming is good.

the-pi-guy

Quote from: Max King of the Wild on Oct 30, 2016, 08:09 PMXbox one is old technology. It has more ram too. Maybe being on par with it is not good. And again, 1 GB would be used by Win U's OS. Everyone should expect better OS with more social features than that.
1 GB of RAM for OS is completely fine.  
That's about double what the PS3 and 360 had total.  As long as the OS is made really well, they could pretty easily fit all of it in that space with a good amount of reserve for future additions.  If they make it very bloated, then obviously lit won't be enough.  But if that's the case, they need better software engineers.  

3GB of RAM is a little low, but it really should be fine given the constraints of the system.  Xbox One will likely be Microsoft's main console for 2-3 more years.  Scorpio will be a notable power increase and power 4K gaming, but as long as Microsoft doesn't drop XO, then the NS is in an okay position power wise.  
Nintendo just won't be pushing 4K, they weren't pushing 1080p during the Wii era.  

The specs are overall fine, what they really need to do is ensure that the system is the best it can be given the system's design choices (Basically if you're going for these features, make sure it's as comfortable and reliable as it can be), marketed correctly, and that the right games are made for it.  

Max King of the Wild

Quote from: ethomaz on Oct 30, 2016, 08:14 PMThe OS is gaming focused only... not these social features found on Xbox One/PS4 from what I read.

How much of RAM 3DS or Vita uses??? It is be a portable OS and not a WiiU like.

3GB for gaming is good.
3ds/vita isn't a home console.

ethomaz

Quote from: Max King of the Wild on Oct 30, 2016, 09:00 PM3ds/vita isn't a home console.
Neither Switch.

It is a hybrid system based in portable hardware that can be docked to your TV.

It was never supposed to be a console... it is first and foremost an 3DS successor with some console capabilities.

Most of part of the 3m trailer was showing how you can use it outside your TV room.

darkknightkryta

Quote from: ethomaz on Oct 30, 2016, 09:24 PMNeither Switch.

It is a hybrid system based in portable hardware that can be docked to your TV.

It was never supposed to be a console... it is first and foremost an 3DS successor with some console capabilities.

Most of part of the 3m trailer was showing how you can use it outside your TV room.
They're calling it a console and the dock doesn't give it more power...

the-pi-guy

Quote from: darkknightkryta on Oct 30, 2016, 10:28 PMThey're calling it a console and the dock doesn't give it more power...
As far as I know every source has said that the system runs better while docked than not.  It may not have any internal components to help with processing.  But there are several ways they can increase power.  
When docked they don't have to deal with battery demands, they also have less of a need to stay within a reasonable temperature.  Not sure if they said the dock has a fan of any sort, but if so it can get a little easier still.  

There's a lot of reason to suggest that the system is more powerful while docked, including sources, and just the fact that it makes the most sense to do it that way.  

ethomaz

Quote from: darkknightkryta on Oct 30, 2016, 10:28 PMThey're calling it a console and the dock doesn't give it more power...
The dock boost performance... if it has addictional hardware or just a better cooling system for overclock is unknown.

It has a handheld hardware and the trailer 80% focus in using it mobile... it didn't look like an Wii U's successor peharps looks like 3DS's successor.

Nintendo message with the trailer was clear about that,

Max King of the Wild

Quote from: ethomaz on Oct 30, 2016, 10:38 PMThe dock boost performance... if it has addictional hardware or just a better cooling system for overclock is unknown.
Nintendo already said it's just a charger

ethomaz

Quote from: Max King of the Wild on Oct 30, 2016, 10:41 PMNintendo already said it's just a charger
They didn't...

They said the dock is not the main console but it improves performance.

The trailer shows how the graphics got down when removed from the dock.

the-pi-guy

Quote from: Max King of the Wild on Oct 30, 2016, 10:41 PMNintendo already said it's just a charger

Quote"The main function of the Nintendo Switch Dock is to provide an output to the TV, as well as charging and providing power to the system."

Doesn't negate the NS being more powerful in the dock.  

The main function of a car is to get me from point A to B, but that doesn't mean I can't listen to the radio in it.  

darkknightkryta

Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Oct 30, 2016, 10:53 PMDoesn't negate the NS being more powerful in the dock.  

The main function of a car is to get me from point A to B, but that doesn't mean I can't listen to the radio in it.  
We don't even know if the NS is going to be more powerful in the dock.  The only thing we have to go by is that the dock gives no additional power, which leans towards it not being more powerful in the dock.   Though if you're right, and the rumours are to be believed, the console itself is still weaker than the Xbox One.  Which itself isn't powerful enough for consistent 1080p.  This thing is going to be stuck in 720p, which looks like dog on a 4K TV (I can attest, I actually have a 4K TV)

Quote from: ethomaz on Oct 30, 2016, 10:44 PMThey didn't...

They said the dock is not the main console but it improves performance.

The trailer shows how the graphics got down when removed from the dock.
The trailer also shows pre-rendered footage and according to Nintendo, we can't expect NS games to look like what they showed.  They baked the entire trailer.

Max King of the Wild

720 looks like dog on 1080 TVS too. It's just ignorable. Especially if you don't play in 1080 normally. It's terrible going from ps4 to ps3.

ethomaz

Quote from: Max King of the Wild on Oct 31, 2016, 03:38 PM720 looks like dog on 1080 TVS too. It's just ignorable. Especially if you don't play in 1080 normally. It's terrible going from ps4 to ps3.
I agree but it is a handheld hardware... it is a custom next gen Tegra.

At best expect it close to Xbox One in dock mode like ~1TFs in GPU... you saw Xbox One hardly reaches 1080p so Switch will be a bit worst.

darkknightkryta

Quote from: ethomaz on Oct 31, 2016, 06:01 PMI agree but it is a handheld hardware... it is a custom next gen Tegra.

At best expect it close to Xbox One in dock mode like ~1TFs in GPU... you saw Xbox One hardly reaches 1080p so Switch will be a bit worst.
But this is the issue here, they're going to most likely charge you the cost of a ps4 for something significantly worse, all so you can take it with you for 2 hours (Then run home for charging).  I seriously hope Nintendo truly has something up their sleeves, like breaking the laws of physics, but this is a huge thing waiting to explode (In a bad way)