Uncharted 4: A Thief's End

[Rorono]

We'll have to wait and see when exactly the game goes gold, to see if it was a legit reason or just an excuse.

[BananaKing]

What? Nobody's talking about production issues. I'm saying Sony originally ordered x amount of copies of UC4 but now realized that they need way more on day 1 to fulfill demand, so they did in fact order more. But just because they ordered more doesn't mean that those copies will just manifest out of thin air, they have to be printed as well and any manufacturer that's worth a dang won't just have the resources and capacities being unused to be able to just produce however much more Sony now ordered in the time that they were supposed to make the originally asked for amount, so they need more time.

There's one realistic scenario I can think of where Sony would lie about the reason for this 2 week delay and that is if they did it because of R&C, you don't want to tell that to your customers, but if it's needed development finetuning that's causing this ridiculously short delay then how is that worth making up a lie about it?

how much time do you think it actually needs to make BlueRay CD's? manufacturing doesnt take time, at all. and what kind of company makes a deal where they cant order more or less of the product they are making? this isnt the first big launch Sony had, they certainly have the expertise at production to not make a blunder like this.

this isnt the first time ND delayed a game a few weeks, TLoU was delayed for 3 weeks, in similar fashion like this as well, this delay seems more like that, then a "we want to be able to meet demand" excuse.

Two weeks isn't a lot of time at all, though....

its another delay, which is annoying, if they could have announced this game and its release date properly, it would have been a lot better.

this game has been announced in November 2013, for fudges sake we been waiting on this game for 2 and half years now.

[Aura7541]

its another delay, which is annoying, if they could have announced this game and its release date properly, it would have been a lot better.

this game has been announced in November 2013, for fudges sake we been waiting on this game for 2 and half years now.

What I meant behind "two weeks isn't that long" was that it's a very short time period game development-wise. Perhaps you can achieve some bug fixing in that timespan, but that's about it. Overall, Naughty Dog's alleged reason for delaying Uncharted 4 is not unreasonable and if true, that's a good thing because demand is high.

[ethomaz]

how much time do you think it actually needs to make BlueRay CD's? manufacturing doesnt take time, at all. and what kind of company makes a deal where they cant order more or less of the product they are making? this isnt the first big launch Sony had, they certainly have the expertise at production to not make a blunder like this.

this isnt the first time ND delayed a game a few weeks, TLoU was delayed for 3 weeks, in similar fashion like this as well, this delay seems more like that, then a "we want to be able to meet demand" excuse.

From what I know (and I'm open to be wrong if the things changed)...

Sony (or any other publisher) have a contract of production of discs per month... an amount of discs... Sony use these numbers or units contracted to produce all discs they needs for all games releasing or already released.

Of course they can increase the production numbers paying a extra but only if the factory has enough capacity to produce in the time they want the disc read to go to retail.

Now you need to think something about dead lines...

- When the GOLD is send to the factories?
- When all the units produced will be ready to be send to retail?
- How much time they will traveling to the retail?

We are talking here about weeks and not days.

And it is not only the disc itself... they need to do all these jobs with all the others factories that will supply the box, print the manual, etc... everything needs to be synchronous.

But let's thing only about the disc in a hypothetical case...

- The GOLD will be sent to factory 2 weeks before release.
- The travel to reach the retail in time will be 1 week.
- The factory will have 1 week of full production and even doing extra they will only supply 2m discs.

2 million discs is enough? Well U3 first shipment was 3.4m... you know you need to have enough units in stock on stores too... you need to supply way more than you will sell on day one.

So if I delay 2 weeks I can give more 2 weeks to the factory works... that will give me 6 million discs in full production mode with extras.

See? That excuse is not too hard to believe.

Another way to not delay the release and have the enough units was making the GOLD early but that looks like a non option right now.

BTW they will be closing the GOLD code middle of this month with the QA usually happening for 2 weeks... they won't developer or change the code for the disc release anymore... anything coded after that will be on Day 1 patch.

2 weeks didn't add nothing to developer in terms of code because you can't even QA with that time for a new GOLD version... if the issue was development time they could launch in April 26th with a big Day 1 patch coded near the release.

I'm the first to jump conclusions but the delay is so small that looks like a production issues than a development one.

BTW. The first delay was clear a development issue and they said it... why lie now?

What I meant behind "two weeks isn't that long" was that you can't really do in that much time game development-wise. Perhaps bug fixing, but that's about it. Overall, Naughty Dog's alleged reason for delaying Uncharted 4 is not unreasonable and if true, that's a good thing because demand is high.

Bug fix they can do even going gold for a April 26th launch... they can put in a Day 1 patch.

Changes things in a GOLD tape is way more demanding than 2 weeks.

[Legend]

Would have been fun if it wasn't delayed. Can't recall the last time a major game had supply issues. Would have made it feel like the "hot product."

[ethomaz]

Would have been fun if it wasn't delayed. Can't recall the last time a major game had supply issues. Would have made it feel like the "hot product."

Gamestop loves to sell these games at $90 lol

[the-pi-guy]

Yeah.

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Oh I gotcha, the little pencil thing next to it.  

[DD_Bwest]

so beta tomorrow morning,  whose gonna be playing this weekend?

[DerNebel]

so beta tomorrow morning,  whose gonna be playing this weekend?

Gonna download it when I get home from work, definitely going to play it.

It will also have a new map, I wonder what else will be new between this and the last beta.

[Legend]

Yeah I'll play. Finished the witcher last night so why not.

[DerNebel]

I hope Chloe is in the beta.

[Xevross]

Loading introduction!

I hope Chloe is in the beta.

There's no Chloe. Same characters as the last beta.

[DerNebel]

Loading introduction!
There's no Chloe. Same characters as the last beta.

Yeah, saw it. And I'm not finding any players, lol this is kinda familiar.

But hey they changed something, it says UNKNOWN STRING!!! all over the place.

Edit: Now I'm getting an error message, well this is a stress test after all. Hope they fix this soon and add enough servers for launch, cause this mofo is gonna be BIG!!

[Xevross]

Yeah, saw it. And I'm not finding any players, lol this is kinda familiar.

But hey they changed something, it says UNKNOWN STRING!!! all over the place.

Edit: Now I'm getting an error message, well this is a stress test after all. Hope they fix this soon and add enough servers for launch, cause this mofo is gonna be BIG!!

Yeah I'm getting error loading session manager now. God dang nabbit!

[Legend]

Just had a PS4 add before a video and it showed the old date