Video Game Sales Thread

ZhugeEX · Dec 22, 2015, 08:20 PM

Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Dec 22, 2015, 07:18 PMThere are definitely places where 2000$/month isn't going to cut it.

darkknightkryta · Dec 22, 2015, 08:35 PM

Quote from: Max King of the Wild on Dec 22, 2015, 06:14 PMI'm not sure you understand poverty. I lived off slightly more than min wage but only part time for two years comfortably in the expensive part of Milwaukee. No cable TV or car expenses but when my school has bus passes there is no need. And tax return time I got nearly 4500 back when I only paid about half of that during the year. You sound like you've been listening to Bernie Sanders too much.

Poverty wages = min wage + ~7 hours less than full time (most places consider 32+ hours a week full time) per week.

Seriously, min wage isn't that big of a problem. It's the fact that min wage jobs are hardly ever full time. Heaven forbid you have to live in a studio apartment with no cable TV and a flip phone. While needing to take public transit or walk half a mile to work (I use to walk or bike 4.5miles to work some days when my car was broke down. Wouldn't do that on the regular. Would if I lived within a mile though) and cut out soda, candy and potato chips from your diet and buy canned fruit and veggies. (this scenario isn't even close to poverty.)

Yes, but that's what I was trying to get at. There's a difference between living and living with a few luxuries. Games are luxuries. I personally consider poverty just "living". That wasn't the case maybe 20 years ago. That's the case now. But you're right, the lack of full time work is what's worse than the actual minimum wage. Something to think about as well. I was writing up a unit in my grade 11 math class, and wages and purchases was part of the unit (This was the lowest possible math you could take.) So I had them go to stats Canada to see what the average spending to live in Ontario was. Average spending per person was 45k a year. Assuming you live alone. You'd have to make over 50k if you wanted to save. Obviously it's different in the U.S. since the cost of living there is far less. But then again the minimum wage in the U.S. is less than here. Or it was, not sure what it's at now.

Max King of the Wild · Dec 22, 2015, 10:17 PM

Quote from: darkknightkryta on Dec 22, 2015, 08:35 PMYes, but that's what I was trying to get at. There's a difference between living and living with a few luxuries. Games are luxuries. I personally consider poverty just "living". That wasn't the case maybe 20 years ago. That's the case now. But you're right, the lack of full time work is what's worse than the actual minimum wage. Something to think about as well. I was writing up a unit in my grade 11 math class, and wages and purchases was part of the unit (This was the lowest possible math you could take.) So I had them go to stats Canada to see what the average spending to live in Ontario was. Average spending per person was 45k a year. Assuming you live alone. You'd have to make over 50k if you wanted to save. Obviously it's different in the U.S. since the cost of living there is far less. But then again the minimum wage in the U.S. is less than here. Or it was, not sure what it's at now.

I will note that I considered min wage at IL min wage which is about a dollar more than federal. But most starts are above min wage. I say min wage should be raised to about 9.50 an hour. A far cry from 15 bernie wants. But really, 2 more an hour will help out a lot with basics but not much for luxuries

darkknightkryta · Dec 23, 2015, 01:51 AM

Quote from: Max King of the Wild on Dec 22, 2015, 10:17 PMI will note that I considered min wage at IL min wage which is about a dollar more than federal. But most starts are above min wage. I say min wage should be raised to about 9.50 an hour. A far cry from 15 bernie wants. But really, 2 more an hour will help out a lot with basics but not much for luxuries

Exactly the problem. More people are being pushed into the "just living" category. There'll be second thoughts on buying a 350 dollar machine. Part of the reason for the ps2 selling so well is that it was 199 most of his life. I actually think that the reason the ps3 might not sell 100 million units isbthat it was too expensive most of its life.

ZhugeEX · Dec 23, 2015, 03:01 AM

Quote from: darkknightkryta on Dec 23, 2015, 01:51 AMExactly the problem. More people are being pushed into the "just living" category. There'll be second thoughts on buying a 350 dollar machine. Part of the reason for the ps2 selling so well is that it was 199 most of his life. I actually think that the reason the ps3 might not sell 100 million units isbthat it was too expensive most of its life.

and that it faced tough competition from the Nintendo Wii early on and the Xbox 360 later on. Not to mention that Sony was competing against itself with the PS2 as well.

7th gen sales also fell off a cliff once 8th gen consoles started to hit stores. I'd be surprised if the 360 and PS3 end on much more than 90 million unit sales each.

darkknightkryta · Dec 23, 2015, 03:38 AM

Quote from: ZhugeEX on Dec 23, 2015, 03:01 AMand that it faced tough competition from the Nintendo Wii early on and the Xbox 360 later on. Not to mention that Sony was competing against itself with the PS2 as well.

7th gen sales also fell off a cliff once 8th gen consoles started to hit stores. I'd be surprised if the 360 and PS3 end on much more than 90 million unit sales each.

Yeah. What a 399 PS3 would have done. I guess we'll never know. But price is an important factor. Wii sold on price + gimmick for 3 years. Ultimately, I believe if the global economy was in better shape and there was generally a stronger middle class, I think the PS4 would be comfortably outselling the PS2 and the Wii.

Kerotan · Dec 23, 2015, 04:07 AM

No mediacreate tomorrow but we should still get Famitsu.

Cute Pikachu · Dec 23, 2015, 02:03 PM

Famitusu Summary
49k PS4
140k 3ds
80k WiiU
40k Vita
Software
125k F4
80k MM
78k Splatoon
145k MHX
Jo Jo 18k PS4 19k PS3
Bonus
YWB 99k

And yes that wii u number is not a typo

Xbro · Dec 23, 2015, 02:27 PM

Could just do this

NeoGAF - View Single Post - Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2015 (Dec 14 - Dec 20)

Quote Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2015 (Dec 14 - Dec 20) ___
Famitsu Sales: Week 51, 2015 (Dec 14 - Dec 20) 01./00. (3DS) Monster Strike <RPG> (Mixi) {2015.12.17} (¥4.860) - 425.268 / NEW <40-60%>
02./01. (3DS) Monster Hunter X # <ACT> (Capcom) {2015.11.28} (¥6.264) - 159.806 / 2.267.916 <80-100%> (-16%)
03./00. (PS4) Fallout 4 # <RPG> (Bethesda Softworks) {2015.12.17} (¥8.618) - 121.099 / NEW <60-80%>
04./02. (3DS) Yo-Kai Watch Busters: Red Cat Team / White Dog Squad <ACT> (Level 5) {2015.07.11} (¥4.968) - 99.190 / 1.860.532 <80-100%> (+50%)
05./04. (WIU) Super Mario Maker # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.09.10} (¥6.156) - 80.807 / 576.913 <80-100%> (+95%)
06./03. (WIU) Splatoon # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} (¥6.156) - 77.028 / 966.801 <80-100%> (+76%)
07./11. (3DS) Disney Magic World 2 # <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.11.05} (¥6.145) - 43.331 / 203.262 <60-80%> (+86%)
08./13. (3DS) Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2015.07.30} (¥4.320) - 40.896 / 1.222.487 <80-100%> (+94%)
09./07. (3DS) Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam <RPG> (Nintendo) {2015.12.03} (¥5.076) - 38.962 / 119.091 <40-60%> (+30%)
10./17. (3DS) Rhythm Heaven: The Best+ <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.06.11} (¥5.076) - 34.198 / 560.698 <80-100%> (+183%)
11./00. (PSV) Miracle Girls Festival <ACT> (Sega) {2015.12.17} (¥7.549) - 33.580 / NEW <60-80%>
12./15. (PSV) Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.03.19} (¥2.592) - 27.159 / 431.229 <80-100%> (+96%)
13./00. (PSV) Exist Archive: The Other Side of the Sky <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2015.12.17} (¥7.344) - 21.534 / NEW <40-60%>
14./16. (3DS) Sumikko Gurashi: Omise Hajimerundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2015.11.19} (¥5.184) - 21.491 / 60.673 <60-80%> (+68%)
15./00. (PS4) Exist Archive: The Other Side of the Sky <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2015.12.17} (¥7.776) - 19.728 / NEW <40-60%> 16./00. (PS3) JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Eyes of Heaven <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.12.17} (¥7.549) - 19.164 / NEW <40-60%>
17./00. (PS4) JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Eyes of Heaven <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.12.17} (¥8.856) - 18.516 / NEW <40-60%>
18./00. (PSV) Angelique Retour # <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2015.12.17} (¥7.344) - 10.180 / NEW <80-100%>
19./00. (PSV) Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax Ignition <FTG> (Sega) {2015.12.17} (¥7.549) - 9.740 / NEW <40-60%>
20./00. (3DS) Super Run For Money Tousouchuu Atsumare! Saikyou no Tousou Monotachi # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.07.09} (¥5.119) - 9.094 / 85.921 <80-100%>
21./09. (PS4) Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2015.12.10} (¥9.072) - 8.805 / 35.832 <60-80%> (-67%)
22./26. (3DS) Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 8.751 / 2.480.467 <80-100%> (+77%)
23./23. (3DS) Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2015.09.17} (¥5.076) - 8.539 / 280.891 <80-100%> (+61%)
24./22. (3DS) The Legend of Zelda: TriForce Heroes <ADV> (Nintendo) {2015.10.22} (¥5.076) - 8.484 / 129.934 <80-100%> (+53%)
25./00. (3DS) New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 8.280 / 2.405.663 <80-100%>
26./30. (3DS) Aikatsu! My No.1 Stage! # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.11.26} (¥5.627) - 7.475 / 41.005 <40-60%> (+56%)
27./28. (3DS) PriPara Mezase! Idol Grand Prix No.1! <ACT> (Takara Tomy) {2015.10.22} (¥5.832) - 7.448 / 62.361 <60-80%> (+52%)
28./05. (PSV) Valkyrie Drive: Bhikkhuni # <ACT> (Marvelous) {2015.12.10} (¥7.538) - 7.173 / 47.890 <80-100%> (-82%)
29./27. (WIU) Taiko no Tatsujin: Atsumete Tomodachi Daisakusen! # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.11.26} (¥5.724) - 7.158 / 28.139 <40-60%> (+46%)
30./00. (PS4) Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax Ignition <FTG> (Sega) {2015.12.17} (¥7.549) - 7.112 / NEW <40-60%>

HARDWARE
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+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| 3DS # | 147.688 | 106.108 | 218.412 | 2.029.453 | 2.934.694 | 19.876.509 |
| WIU | 80.301 | 47.259 | 36.397 | 719.182 | 555.929 | 2.842.465 |
| PS4 | 49.634 | 40.289 | 21.657 | 1.144.833 | 895.425 | 2.070.403 |
| PSV # | 46.182 | 31.031 | 29.657 | 893.273 | 1.107.413 | 4.316.348 |
| PS3 | 2.381 | 1.903 | 7.847 | 184.748 | 439.892 | 10.203.282 |
| XB1 | 446 | 234 | 1.761 | 17.614 | 45.143 | 63.572 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| ALL | 326.632 | 226.824 | 315.818 | 4.989.103 | 6.076.955 | 39.372.579 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+

EDIT: Forgot that doesn't work as well as it used to.

Cute Pikachu · Dec 23, 2015, 02:36 PM

Yeah that's why I didn't do it.
The hardware sales section gets all cluttered and confusing.

Xevross · Dec 23, 2015, 08:24 PM

What happened to WiiU to cause it to get such a big boost this year?

Aura7541 · Dec 23, 2015, 08:54 PM

Quote from: Xevross on Dec 23, 2015, 08:24 PMWhat happened to WiiU to cause it to get such a big boost this year?

Splatoon bundle and Nintendo systems tend to have a good boost during the holiday season in Japan.

Cute Pikachu · Dec 23, 2015, 08:58 PM

So Wii u apparently has stock problems.
According to Hiska-kun that could effect it's chances of going over 100k.
Also Splatoon bundle is no more.
It's only Mario Maker Bundle and regular bundle.
There's also a chance we see Splatoon and Mario Maker get close to their first week sales...

ZhugeEX · Dec 23, 2015, 09:55 PM

Quote from: Xevross on Dec 23, 2015, 08:24 PMWhat happened to WiiU to cause it to get such a big boost this year?

Nintendo usually see strong sales during the holiday period in Japan. Similar to how Xbox sees strong holiday sales in the U.S., even if they don't do too well during the rest of the year.

This boost is slightly higher than most peoples expectations and is mainly thanks to the continued success of Splatoon and recent launch of Super Mario Maker. Splatoon recently achieved cumulative sell through of more than 1 million unit sales in Japan and looks set to reach at least 1.5 million as an absolute minimum.

The launch of Splatoon has allowed sales of Wii U in 2015 to exceed 2014 numbers but the console isn't performing well enough to reach 2013 numbers. Even though the numbers are up over last year the Wii U still won't hit 1 million unit sales this year (PS4 is already >1m) and it's likely that sales will be considerably lower in 2016. I would expect the Wii U to sell in around 4 million units in Japan during its lifetime which will be on par with the Gamecube but considerably less than the Wii.

Xevross · Dec 23, 2015, 11:20 PM

Quote from: ZhugeEX on Dec 23, 2015, 09:55 PMNintendo usually see strong sales during the holiday period in Japan. Similar to how Xbox sees strong holiday sales in the U.S., even if they don't do too well during the rest of the year.

This boost is slightly higher than most peoples expectations and is mainly thanks to the continued success of Splatoon and recent launch of Super Mario Maker. Splatoon recently achieved cumulative sell through of more than 1 million unit sales in Japan and looks set to reach at least 1.5 million as an absolute minimum.

The launch of Splatoon has allowed sales of Wii U in 2015 to exceed 2014 numbers but the console isn't performing well enough to reach 2013 numbers. Even though the numbers are up over last year the Wii U still won't hit 1 million unit sales this year (PS4 is already >1m) and it's likely that sales will be considerably lower in 2016. I would expect the Wii U to sell in around 4 million units in Japan during its lifetime which will be on par with the Gamecube but considerably less than the Wii.

Yeah, WiiU's sales this year have been very low so I wasn't expecting it to get such a huge boost from bundling old games.

The boost last year wasn't anywhere near this high though and it had just had Smash. Strange.