Video Game Sales Thread

[Xevross]

Amazon top 100 hourly update

#8 XB1 Gears (-3) (now $299)
#13 PS4 SW (-2) (sometimes in stock)
#23 PS4 COD (-7) (now bundled with Destiny for free)
#32 n3DS XL (0)
#42 XB1 1TB 3 Games (+2) (now $349)
#65 WiiU MK8 (-10)
#75 PS4 NDC Physical (+1) (out of stock)

The COD bundle is the best deal for PS4 now. You either get Battlefront or COD and Destiny for $349. I'd much rather have COD and Destiny but I guess movie hype is keeping the Star Wars bundle ahead.

XB1 finally broke into the top 10, I think it'll be top for this next week now PS4 is back to $349 and its staying at $299. Don't think that'll be enough to catch up though.

[Max King of the Wild]

I would assume so. The 200K figure from NPD included both versions.

That's really bad.

[Raven]

I think price is more of a factor.  A 199 gaming device vs a 350.

Price is a factor but by how much? When you adjust for inflation, the PS2 had basically the same starting price as the PS4. The question is, how has consumer perspective changed over the years? Would they look at a 300 dollar console today the same way they would look at it two generations ago? Consumers are being slowly conditioned to accept higher starting price tags. Though there is also the fact that regardless of inflation, the PS2 was at a more affordable price this same relative time. It's also worth pointing out that despite a higher starting price, the PS4 is still outpacing the PS2 globally. So is the price really that big of a deal? No matter how you slice it, the fact that the PS2 had no competition in the US is a big factor. Imagine if Xbox One sales were only half of what they are and those sales instead went to PS4. The PS4 would probably be outpacing the PS2 in the US right now even at its current price.

[darkknightkryta]

Price is a factor but by how much? When you adjust for inflation, the PS2 had basically the same starting price as the PS4. The question is, how has consumer perspective changed over the years? Would they look at a 300 dollar console today the same way they would look at it two generations ago? Consumers are being slowly conditioned to accept higher starting price tags. Though there is also the fact that regardless of inflation, the PS2 was at a more affordable price this same relative time. It's also worth pointing out that despite a higher starting price, the PS4 is still outpacing the PS2 globally. So is the price really that big of a deal? No matter how you slice it, the fact that the PS2 had no competition in the US is a big factor. Imagine if Xbox One sales were only half of what they are and those sales instead went to PS4. The PS4 would probably be outpacing the PS2 in the US right now even at its current price.

The thing people are ignoring when talking about inflation is that wages have gone down.  So not only has the cost of everything gone up, they also have less money to spend with.  I personally think it's a big factor.  I mean luckily the price of games themselves haven't gone up.  But having less spending money overall is going to affect someone purchasing a console.

[Raven]

The thing people are ignoring when talking about inflation is that wages have gone down.  So not only has the cost of everything gone up, they also have less money to spend with.  I personally think it's a big factor.  I mean luckily the price of games themselves haven't gone up.  But having less spending money overall is going to affect someone purchasing a console.

Wages have gone down? Minimum wage in the States has gone up at least once in the last 10 years and that was around $2 more per hour. So at the very least, those working minimum wage jobs are bringing in more per paycheck than they were back in the PS2 days. The question there would be, how far does their paycheck get them today compared to what it would have been back in 2000? I still don't think price is the biggest factor here. Several millions of people purchased $500 Xbox Ones even though a $400 PS4 alternative was right there. Like I said, if you were to cut Xbox One sales in half and give them to PS4, the PS4 would be outpacing PS2 even at a higher cost. The biggest issue PS4 faces in the US is having actual competition from Xbox One thanks largely to the previous success of Xbox 360. Were that not the case and PS4 was dominating X1 the same way the PS2 dominated Xbox, the 350 PS4 would actually be ahead of the 200 PS2 or at least neck and neck in the States. No matter what the price of PS4 is, as long as the X1 is similarly priced and scoring competitive sales, PS4 will never replicate PS2 sales in the States.

[the-pi-guy]

I also wonder how much people really care for inflation.  Sure they see it happening with most things.  
But how many people are looking at a 300$ device from 15 years ago and a 300$ today and thinking geez inflation.  

[darkknightkryta]

Wages have gone down? Minimum wage in the States has gone up at least once in the last 10 years and that was around $2 more per hour. So at the very least, those working minimum wage jobs are bringing in more per paycheck than they were back in the PS2 days. The question there would be, how far does their paycheck get them today compared to what it would have been back in 2000? I still don't think price is the biggest factor here. Several millions of people purchased $500 Xbox Ones even though a $400 PS4 alternative was right there. Like I said, if you were to cut Xbox One sales in half and give them to PS4, the PS4 would be outpacing PS2 even at a higher cost. The biggest issue PS4 faces in the US is having actual competition from Xbox One thanks largely to the previous success of Xbox 360. Were that not the case and PS4 was dominating X1 the same way the PS2 dominated Xbox, the 350 PS4 would actually be ahead of the 200 PS2 or at least neck and neck in the States. No matter what the price of PS4 is, as long as the X1 is similarly priced and scoring competitive sales, PS4 will never replicate PS2 sales in the States.

Minimum wage is poverty wage.  The middle class wages have gone significantly down.  This is causing a shift raising poverty and extremely wealthy.  The Xbox One was getting slaughtered until the price cuts.   It was the only way for it to be competitive.  There's no price advantage this year and it's already getting outsold again.  Are you right about the competition?  Yes you are, I think pricing is as much of an issue.  Why do you think the Wii is doing better comparatively?  It was far cheaper than the other 2 consoles at the time.

[the-pi-guy]

Minimum wage is poverty wage.  

Think this really depends on where you live.  
If I was just working at minimum wage, then I am quite certain I could live on it.  Wouldn't really be able to buy nice things, but certainly livable.  At least here.

[darkknightkryta]

Think this really depends on where you live.  
If I was just working at minimum wage, then I am quite certain I could live on it.  Wouldn't really be able to buy nice things, but certainly livable.  At least here.

That's the issue.  Food or ps4?  If the middle class wages, even if they stayed the same, it would be both for many people.

[the-pi-guy]

That's the issue.  Food or ps4?  If the middle class wages, even if they stayed the same, it would be both for many people.

Food until tax rebate.  
When tax rebate comes, I'm buying a PS4 because I can now afford both.

[darkknightkryta]

Food until tax rebate.  
When tax rebate comes, I'm buying a PS4 because I can now afford both.

-_-

[ZhugeEX]

Rise of the tomb raider sold 26,000 units in France. Of course with digital sales it's easily over 1 million in France.

— ZhugeEX (@ZhugeEX) December 17, 2015

LOL

That was first week sales in my tweet.

As of Nov 28th the game has sold 42k in France across Xbox One and Xbox 360 according to GfK data. This number does not include bundled units or digital downloads.

[Max King of the Wild]

Minimum wage is poverty wage.  The middle class wages have gone significantly down.  This is causing a shift raising poverty and extremely wealthy.  The Xbox One was getting slaughtered until the price cuts.   It was the only way for it to be competitive.  There's no price advantage this year and it's already getting outsold again.  Are you right about the competition?  Yes you are, I think pricing is as much of an issue.  Why do you think the Wii is doing better comparatively?  It was far cheaper than the other 2 consoles at the time.

I'm not sure you understand poverty. I lived off slightly more than min wage but only part time for two years comfortably in the expensive part of Milwaukee. No cable TV or car expenses but when my school has bus passes there is no need. And tax return time I got nearly 4500 back when I only paid about half of that during the year. You sound like you've been listening to Bernie Sanders too much.

Poverty wages = min wage + ~7 hours less than full time (most places consider 32+ hours a week full time) per week.

Seriously, min wage isn't that big of a problem. It's the fact that min wage jobs are hardly ever full time. Heaven forbid you have to live in a studio apartment with no cable TV and a flip phone.  While needing to take public transit or walk half a mile to work (I use to walk or bike 4.5miles to work some days when my car was broke down. Wouldn't do that on the regular. Would if I lived within a mile though) and cut out soda, candy and potato chips from your diet and buy canned fruit and veggies. (this scenario isn't even close to poverty.)

[Raven]

One of my favorite videos, and by favorite I mean laughed out loud because of how absurd it was, was a video about a guy who "struggled so hard on only 2,000 a month". They made it seem like this guy just had it soooo hard. He was single, mind you. They made it look like he had to be very cheap about his food. Couldn't afford a car so he had to bike everywhere. Would often be between apartments because sometimes he couldn't afford the rent anymore. It was a total pity party, how-does-he-manage video. At 2,000 a month he makes hundreds more than I do. I pay for my smart phone, my internet, my $250 a month car payment I've been paying for 4 years, car insurance, electric, gas, water, rent, multiple subscriptions like WoW and PS+, fuel, food, and I still have hundreds left each month to splurge. If you can't live on 2,000 a month as a single person you're either lying about where your money is going or you need to move out of the area ASAP if you're not on your way to a high paying job.

[the-pi-guy]

If you can't live on 2,000 a month as a single person you're either lying about where your money is going or you need to move out of the area ASAP if you're not on your way to a high paying job.

There are definitely places where 2000$/month isn't going to cut it.  
But yeah, if you can't afford that, get out of there.  

Whiners I tell you.