Video Game Sales Thread

[Max King of the Wild]

250k is a pretty huge sample size for any statistics... even more for about 1m units sold... it is about 25% of all sales.

250k receipts. 200k could be a single can of beans

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Statistics works in such a way that gigantic sample sizes aren't needed.  You just have to get to a certain size and you can be 95% confident.  
@Yes, why would they be so close?  Gears is one of the most popular Xbox games, it came with substantial gift cards, particularly on Black Friday, it's cheaper to get that bundle then buy another game than it is to buy the other game bundle.  
Most people are smart enough to know that a gift card is a good deal.  

This was the first Black after Thanksgiving dinner that I have not worked in 6 years. The reason they'd be so close is highly dependent on stock. The sales with the gift cards will sell out within 15 minutes but the rest would sell through out the day

So to expand on that, the first hour of sales would be a complete blood bath in favor of gears bundle. But after that when shoppers can't get that awesome deal but they still want to pick up an Xbox they will settle for another one.

[ethomaz]

250k receipts. 200k could be a single can of beans

50k is yet a huge sample data.

Presidential sample data here in Brazil uses about 5k for over 100 million voters and it have a margin of error of 2-3%.

[Max King of the Wild]

And as for statistics, having anyone willy nilly submitting receipts is a flawed formula for getting a representative data pool

50k is yet a huge sample data.

Presidential sample data here in Brazil uses about 5k for over 100 million voters and it have a margin of error of 2-3%.

But 50k is still not for games. 45k could have toilet paper

[the-pi-guy]

So to expand on that, the first hour of sales would be a complete blood bath in favor of gears bundle. But after that when shoppers can't get that awesome deal but they still want to pick up an Xbox they will settle for another one.

Or if that fantastic bundle isn't available, they might settle for a PS4 instead.  
Even as someone who isn't interested in the Xbox One, I would be very willing to pick up the XB1 at essentially 240$.  If that wasn't available, and the PS4 was 300$ and the XB1 was 300$, I would definitely get the PS4.  

Your assumption is highly predicated on the thought that someone absolutely wants an Xbox One, which isn't likely to be the case, unless there's a tremendous deal going on. IE 60$ gift card.  

[Max King of the Wild]

Infoscout is NOT a good indicator for market share and sales volume. That isn't to say they aren't useful. Their usefulness would be limited to tracking demographics, market shifts, buying habits, and things like that.

[the-pi-guy]

Infoscout is NOT a good indicator for market share and sales volume. That isn't to say they aren't useful. Their usefulness would be limited to tracking demographics, market shifts, buying habits, and things like that.

Until official numbers or NPD, it's pretty much the best we have.

[Max King of the Wild]

Or if that fantastic bundle isn't available, they might settle for a PS4 instead.  
Even as someone who isn't interested in the Xbox One, I would be very willing to pick up the XB1 at essentially 240$.  If that wasn't available, and the PS4 was 300$ and the XB1 was 300$, I would definitely get the PS4.  

Your assumption is highly predicated on the thought that someone absolutely wants an Xbox One, which isn't likely to be the case, unless there's a tremendous deal going on. IE 60$ gift card.  

Not once in the past 6 years have I had a guest come up to me asking for a specific sales item and when I informed them that it was a highly sought item and sold out within minutes they then asked if I had a competitor's product. Not saying it doesn't happen but it wouldn't be any significant amount. These people shopping on BF know exactly what they are buying

[ethomaz]

They were right on spot last year.

[Max King of the Wild]

Until official numbers or NPD, it's pretty much the best we have.

Best doesn't mean good.

They were right on spot last year.

Spot on with what exactly? That the submitted receipts had more Xbox out of 500 gaming receipt? I'm not impressed

[the-pi-guy]

Not once in the past 6 years have I had a guest come up to me asking for a specific sales item and when I informed them that it was a highly sought item and sold out within minutes they then asked if I had a competitor's product. Not saying it doesn't happen but it wouldn't be any significant amount. These people shopping on BF know exactly what they are buying

-Can someone buy a system without asking you?
-Does it happen often that they then leave without buying any system?
Does it happen often that they buy a substantially more expensive system when the cheap one wasn't available?


It's hard to say how reliable it is or it isn't. It could very well be very reliable, or it may not be.  

Just like looking at Amazon's or Target's sales, it's just one retailer, there are certain things that could very well change what the actual answer is.  Target may say XB1 won, but Amazon might make the PS4 win overall.  It's hard to know how accurate or reliable something is without all the information.  We don't have all the information unfortunately.  We still watch Amazon's chart, because we are likely to learn something from it.  

[ethomaz]

Spot on with what exactly? That the submitted receipts had more Xbox out of 500 gaming receipt? I'm not impressed

They was right about the sales on BF last year... and 2013 too.

[Max King of the Wild]

-Can someone buy a system without asking you?
-Does it happen often that they then leave without buying any system?
Does it happen often that they buy a substantially more expensive system when the cheap one wasn't available?


It's hard to say how reliable it is or it isn't. It could very well be very reliable, or it may not be.  

1. Yes, they can buy a system without asking me specifically. The door buster consoles would be stacked in a pile. When the piles gone then no, they can't buy a system without asking a person with a key, and there is only 2 keys. The pile doesn't get replenished but the glass cases will and the stock room will have systems on tubs to grab for guests quickly. The way we had it set up was two people on registers ringing people up two people with keys opening cases and talking to guests. And the pile gets depleted within an hour I'd say

That happens more times than asking for a different system. However, just accepting a lower value bundle happens often as well.

They was right about the sales on BF last year... and 2013 too.

So Xbox had 53% market share last year including PS4, Wii U, ps3, and 360? And 63% market share vs PS4? That graph doesn't support your argument

[DerNebel]

Well, that's some heated discussion in here... NPD will be fun.

[Kerotan]

Did they release the UK charts for this week yet!

[Xevross]

Wow, this thread moved. So infoscout put ps4 just ahead on revenue for BF. Since PS4 bundles are cheaper I'd say it was slightly ahead in unit sales. Pretty much confirms a good ps4 lead at npd, for me.

Did they release the UK charts for this week yet!

Not yet!

NDC bundle still at #1. I wonder where it will drop to once the 299 effect has fully gone.