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#21
Off-Topic Community / Re: TV Show Thread
Last post by the-pi-guy - Apr 06, 2026, 07:22 PMQuote from: kitler53 on Apr 06, 2026, 07:04 PMvery very few shows likely know their end from the start. the economics of this doesn't really makes sense because there are a lot of other things that come into play like: will you even get a second season? will something about the prior season be really loved/hated? will one of your actors leave the show?
adjustments have to be made along the way.
lot's of time planning an end doesn't even really benifit a story. your story basically has to be designs with mysteries or recons in mind to really justify showing a story element early only to return to it later. maybe world building things like game of thrones benefit from it. and game of thrones has a specific element that i think helps,.. it started as a book where a single author gets to chose how the story plays out instead of a room of writers like one finds in TV.
and i know nothing about attack on titan but i'll just add this general statement. i think most of the time a late in story uses early in story "teases" i don't think it is as planned out as you think it was. i think in the early parts they just sometimes leave things open ended and decide later what they want to do with it.
Yeah it's obviously the norm for a lot of good reasons. Which is kind of why I'm bringing it up.
Like How I Met Your Mother had the ending planned, and it didn't end up working.
Attack on Titan had the benefit of having a single author figure things out where he wanted to go. And he talked about how well in advance, he knew what the story was going to be.
To add on to your story teases, Breaking Bad has a lot of notable examples:
Spoiler for Hidden:
I feel like there are some shows where the lack of planning kind of hurts it. A lot of shows that meander or take weird directions.
#22
Off-Topic Community / Re: TV Show Thread
Last post by kitler53 - Apr 06, 2026, 07:04 PMvery very few shows likely know their end from the start. the economics of this doesn't really makes sense because there are a lot of other things that come into play like: will you even get a second season? will something about the prior season be really loved/hated? will one of your actors leave the show?
adjustments have to be made along the way.
lot's of time planning an end doesn't even really benifit a story. your story basically has to be designs with mysteries or recons in mind to really justify showing a story element early only to return to it later. maybe world building things like game of thrones benefit from it. and game of thrones has a specific element that i think helps,.. it started as a book where a single author gets to chose how the story plays out instead of a room of writers like one finds in TV.
and i know nothing about attack on titan but i'll just add this general statement. i think most of the time a late in story uses early in story "teases" i don't think it is as planned out as you think it was. i think in the early parts they just sometimes leave things open ended and decide later what they want to do with it.
adjustments have to be made along the way.
lot's of time planning an end doesn't even really benifit a story. your story basically has to be designs with mysteries or recons in mind to really justify showing a story element early only to return to it later. maybe world building things like game of thrones benefit from it. and game of thrones has a specific element that i think helps,.. it started as a book where a single author gets to chose how the story plays out instead of a room of writers like one finds in TV.
and i know nothing about attack on titan but i'll just add this general statement. i think most of the time a late in story uses early in story "teases" i don't think it is as planned out as you think it was. i think in the early parts they just sometimes leave things open ended and decide later what they want to do with it.
#23
Off-Topic News Discussion / Re: Humans launching to the Mo...
Last post by Legend - Apr 06, 2026, 06:37 PMFarthest humans have ever been from Earth, ever.
#24
Off-Topic Community / Re: TV Show Thread
Last post by the-pi-guy - Apr 06, 2026, 05:07 PMA lot of shows are made up as they go, while some other ones are planned from the start.
Like Attack On Titan seems to have been very planned, and there are lots of very direct teases to the end near the start of the manga/anime. And it's interesting because that's a very long running Manga/anime. I don't think there are a lot of ~100 episode stories that are so planned.
I think Avatar the Last Airbender was largely planned from the start. I know there were some changes like Toph was originally a man. I think the general structure of the story was figured out before they really did anything with it.
Whereas it sounds like Breaking Bad was very step by step, figuring out what would happen next. It's funny hearing Vince Gilligan talk about Breaking Bad. Because he talks about it like it wasn't even his show. Like you ask him why Walt did something, and he'll be like well I think it was for these reasons, but one of the other writers on the show would give a different answer.
Like Attack On Titan seems to have been very planned, and there are lots of very direct teases to the end near the start of the manga/anime. And it's interesting because that's a very long running Manga/anime. I don't think there are a lot of ~100 episode stories that are so planned.
I think Avatar the Last Airbender was largely planned from the start. I know there were some changes like Toph was originally a man. I think the general structure of the story was figured out before they really did anything with it.
Whereas it sounds like Breaking Bad was very step by step, figuring out what would happen next. It's funny hearing Vince Gilligan talk about Breaking Bad. Because he talks about it like it wasn't even his show. Like you ask him why Walt did something, and he'll be like well I think it was for these reasons, but one of the other writers on the show would give a different answer.
#25
Off-Topic Community / Re: AI General Thread
Last post by the-pi-guy - Apr 06, 2026, 04:02 PMI want to try Wav2Lip, which makes the lip sync match the audio.
Would be cool to take Dark's english audio, and try to get the lip syncing to be better.
Would be cool to take Dark's english audio, and try to get the lip syncing to be better.
#26
Off-Topic News Discussion / happy eggy sundy day
Last post by Legend - Apr 05, 2026, 11:12 PMWoweowowowowow
#27
Off-Topic Community / Re: TV Show Thread
Last post by BananaKing - Apr 05, 2026, 07:34 PMIt's really good indeed. I'm really enjoying it.
#28
Off-Topic Community / Re: Learning a language? Come ...
Last post by Legend - Apr 05, 2026, 01:29 PMQuote from: the-Pi-guy on Apr 04, 2026, 09:08 PMI probably have written about this before, probably even in this thread. But I'm too lazy to look.First page is tricky. No English at all? Then maybe start with it like a kid's picture book. A cat going on an adventure. And each page gets more snd more text focused snd less picture focused.
I really want to write a story in Japanese with a particular design.
A full story that gets progressively harder grammar wise and vocabulary wise, with new grammar and new vocabulary introduced on the sides.
The big intent is that someone who already knows the easy grammar would just read through without any issue. They would hopefully read it because it's interesting. And someone who doesn't, would read the side notes to understand the first instance. And then 10 pages later they would have that grammar fully understood.
The struggle that I have is, what does page 1 look like?
Page 100 is easy. At that point any reader should have enough knowledge to read a lot of concepts and sentences.
How do you make page 1 interesting for the advanced reader and not too fast paced for the beginner? It's probably impossible to make a perfect book. But it really feels like some kind of book should be possible.
There are a lot of textbooks that kind of do this already. Like the Genki books have 2 pages of story then several pages of practicing and grammar and vocabulary explaining. I want to come up with a concept where you kind of combine all of it.
これはねこです。 ねこ: cat
X はYです: X is Y.
Something like this. Have a full fledged book where 80% of the page is a normal story. And the sides would have footnotes for what this new word or grammar on this line means.
#29
Off-Topic Community / Re: Learning a language? Come ...
Last post by the-pi-guy - Apr 04, 2026, 09:08 PMI probably have written about this before, probably even in this thread. But I'm too lazy to look.
I really want to write a story in Japanese with a particular design.
A full story that gets progressively harder grammar wise and vocabulary wise, with new grammar and new vocabulary introduced on the sides.
The big intent is that someone who already knows the easy grammar would just read through without any issue. They would hopefully read it because it's interesting. And someone who doesn't, would read the side notes to understand the first instance. And then 10 pages later they would have that grammar fully understood.
The struggle that I have is, what does page 1 look like?
Page 100 is easy. At that point any reader should have enough knowledge to read a lot of concepts and sentences.
How do you make page 1 interesting for the advanced reader and not too fast paced for the beginner? It's probably impossible to make a perfect book. But it really feels like some kind of book should be possible.
There are a lot of textbooks that kind of do this already. Like the Genki books have 2 pages of story then several pages of practicing and grammar and vocabulary explaining. I want to come up with a concept where you kind of combine all of it.
Something like this. Have a full fledged book where 80% of the page is a normal story. And the sides would have footnotes for what this new word or grammar on this line means.
I really want to write a story in Japanese with a particular design.
A full story that gets progressively harder grammar wise and vocabulary wise, with new grammar and new vocabulary introduced on the sides.
The big intent is that someone who already knows the easy grammar would just read through without any issue. They would hopefully read it because it's interesting. And someone who doesn't, would read the side notes to understand the first instance. And then 10 pages later they would have that grammar fully understood.
The struggle that I have is, what does page 1 look like?
Page 100 is easy. At that point any reader should have enough knowledge to read a lot of concepts and sentences.
How do you make page 1 interesting for the advanced reader and not too fast paced for the beginner? It's probably impossible to make a perfect book. But it really feels like some kind of book should be possible.
There are a lot of textbooks that kind of do this already. Like the Genki books have 2 pages of story then several pages of practicing and grammar and vocabulary explaining. I want to come up with a concept where you kind of combine all of it.
| これはねこです。 | ねこ: cat X はYです: X is Y. |
Something like this. Have a full fledged book where 80% of the page is a normal story. And the sides would have footnotes for what this new word or grammar on this line means.
#30
Off-Topic Community / Re: AI General Thread
Last post by Legend - Apr 04, 2026, 12:34 AMQuote from: the-Pi-guy on Apr 03, 2026, 11:35 PMGive me a big neural network that scans every movie ever and takes everyone's movie scores and tells me who would like every new movie that ever comes out.Not enough data. You also need to feed the network all their phone calls and online data in case they ever mentioned their opinions about a movie. That way it's more personal and can know why they rated a movie a certain way.
I tried Gemini a while ago for book recommendations, feeding it reviews of all the books I read, and it sucked.