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My motivation for this thread was to attempt to make a single cohesive source of PS5 news.  Not that there won't be other PS5 threads made, but to have this thread be a starting point.  


If anyone wants to share spec or game rumors, feel free.  


04.16.2019
https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/

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PlayStation's next-generation console ticks all those boxes, starting with an AMD chip at the heart of the device. (Warning: some alphabet soup follows.) The CPU is based on the third generation of AMD's Ryzen line and contains eight cores of the company's new 7nm Zen 2 microarchitecture. The GPU, a custom variant of Radeon's Navi family, will support ray tracing, a technique that models the travel of light to simulate complex interactions in 3D environments. While ray tracing is a staple of Hollywood visual effects and is beginning to worm its way into high-end processors and Nvidia's recently announced RTX line, no game console has been able to manage it. Yet.
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The AMD chip also includes a custom unit for 3D audio that Cerny thinks will redefine what sound can do in a videogame
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"I won't go into the details of our VR strategy today," he says, "beyond saying that VR is very important to us and that the current PSVR headset is compatible with the new console."
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At the moment, Sony won't cop to exact details about the SSD--who makes it, whether it utilizes the new PCIe 4.0 standard--but Cerny claims that it has a raw bandwidth higher than any SSD available for PCs. That's not all. "The raw read speed is important," Cerny says, "but so are the details of the I/O [input-output] mechanisms and the software stack that we put on top of them. I got a PlayStation 4 Pro and then I put in a SSD that cost as much as the PlayStation 4 Pro--it might be one-third faster." As opposed to 19 times faster for the next-gen console, judging from the fast-travel demo.
10.08.2019
Exclusive: A Deeper Look at the PlayStation 5—Haptics, UI Facelift, and More | WIRED

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The console, he tells me, will be called PlayStation 5. "It's nice to be able to say it," he says. "Like a giant burden has been lifted from my shoulders."
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"There is ray-tracing acceleration in the GPU hardware," he says, "which I believe is the statement that people were looking for."
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But data adds up too. "If you look at a game like Marvel's Spider-Man," Cerny says, "there are some pieces of data duplicated 400 times on the hard drive." The SSD sweeps away the need for all that duping--so not only is its raw read speed dramatically faster than a hard drive, but it saves crucial space. How developers will take advantage of that space will likely differ; some may opt to build a larger or more detailed game world, others may be content to shrink the size of the games or patches. Either way, physical games for the PS5 will use 100-GB optical disks, inserted into an optical drive that doubles as a 4K Blu-ray player.
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Either way, physical games for the PS5 will use 100-GB optical disks, inserted into an optical drive that doubles as a 4K Blu-ray player.
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However, game installation (which is mandatory, given the speed difference between the SSD and the optical drive) will be a bit different than in the PS4. This time around, aided in part by the simplified game data possible with the SSD, Sony is changing its approach to storage, making for a more configurable installation--and removal--process. "Rather than treating games like a big block of data," Cerny says, "we're allowing finer-grained access to the data." That could mean the ability to install just a game's multiplayer campaign, leaving the single-player campaign for another time, or just installing the whole thing and then deleting the single-player campaign once you've finished it.
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Regardless of what parts of a game you choose to install and play, you'll be able to stay abreast of it via a completely revamped user interface. The PS4's bare-bones home screen at times feels frozen in amber; you can see what your friends have recently done or even what game title they might be playing at the moment, but without launching an individual title there's no way to tell what single-player missions you could do or what multiplayer matches you can join. The PS5 will change that
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The controller (which history suggests will one day be called the DualShock 5, though Cerny just says "it doesn't have a name yet") does have some features Cerny's more interested in acknowledging. One is "adaptive triggers" that can offer varying levels of resistance to make shooting a bow and arrow feel like the real thing--the tension increasing as you pull the arrow back--or make a machine gun feel far different from a shotgun. It also boasts haptic feedback far more capable than the rumble motor console gamers are used to, with highly programmable voice-coil actuators located in the left and right grips of the controller.
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Combined with an improved speaker on the controller, the haptics can enable some astonishing effects. First, I play through a series of short demos, courtesy of the same Japan Studio team that designed PlayStation VR's Astro Bot Rescue Mission. In the most impressive, I ran a character through a platform level featuring a number of different surfaces, all of which gave distinct--and surprisingly immersive--tactile experiences. Sand felt slow and sloggy; mud felt slow and soggy. On ice, a high-frequency response made the thumbsticks really feel like my character was gliding. Jumping into a pool, I got a sense of the resistance of the water; on a wooden bridge, a bouncy sensation.
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Next, a version of Gran Turismo Sport that Sony had ported over to a PS5 devkit--a devkit that on quick glance looks a lot like the one Gizmodo reported on last week. (The company refused to comment on questions about how the devkit's form factor might compare to what's being considered for the consumer product.) Driving on the border between the track and the dirt, I could feel both surfaces. Doing the same thing on the same track using a DualShock 4 on a PS4, that sensation disappeared entirely. It wasn't that the old style rumble feedback paled in comparison, it was that there was no feedback at all. User tests found that rumble feedback was too tiring to use continuously, so the released version of GT Sport simply didn't use it.
Sony reveals new PS5 logo, which looks familiar - Polygon


New PlayStation 5 logo, which looks exactly like the old one


VR:


https://venturebeat.com/2019/05/23/playstations-dominic-mallinson-on-next-gen-vr-wireless-gaze-tracking-foveated-rendering-and-ar/amp/
Spoiler for Images:
<br><img src="https://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/vr-evolutionary-improvements.png?resize=1024%2C491&amp;strip=all" alt="Dominic Mallinson&#39;s VR evolutionary improvements" title=""{width}{height} class="bbc_img"><br><br><img src="https://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/psvr-wired-wireless.png?resize=1024%2C506&amp;strip=all" alt="VR needs less wires" title=""{width}{height} class="bbc_img"><br><br><img src="https://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/vr-gaze-tracking.png?resize=1024%2C569&amp;strip=all" alt="Gaze tracking: Eyes are the windows to our thoughts" title=""{width}{height} class="bbc_img"><img src="https://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/playstation-vr-foveating-rendering.png?resize=1024%2C563&amp;strip=all" alt="PlayStation VR: Foveated rendering" title=""{width}{height} class="bbc_img"><br><br>


Console:
CPU: 8 Core AMD Zen 2
GPU: Navi with ray tracing
RAM: N/A
SSD:  Fast
Optical Drive: 4K bluray drive (100GB)

Controller:
DS4 based, haptic feedback

PSVR2:
Resolution: NA
FOV: NA
Tracking: NA
Eye tracking: Probably

Relevant threads:
When will the PS5 meeting take place?
When are you planning to upgrade to next gen?
PS5 Logo reveal
First PS5 game: Godfall
PS5 devkit image leak
Mark Cerny Reveals PS5 features
Mark Cerny Reveals PS5 specs
We try to predict PS5 stuff 2018 edition
PS5 power poll
We predict day one games!

Legend

I'm really excited/scared to see gameplay for PS5 games. Since I'm making my own next gen game it's a big gamble.

Take for example animations. The industry is really working on improving them during gameplay. Check out this for example:


Will most games feature improved versions of this, or will my animation system stand out?

It'll also be really interesting with ray tracing. What will games support and what will look last gen very fast?

It kinda feels like this could be a bigger jump than last gen in some ways.

the-pi-guy


the-pi-guy

 PS5, Xbox Series X Power 'Substantially Greater' Than Existing Consoles, EA Says - IGN

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"The power of the new consoles is gonna be substantially greater than existing consoles," said EA CFO Blake Jorgensen during the call. "We can do a lot more [with PS5 and Xbox Series X]. Things we're doing will blow people's minds."

Dr. Pezus


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the-pi-guy

Spoiler for Hidden:
<br>Wonder<br><div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px"><div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px"><b>Spoiler</b> for <i>Hidden</i>: <input type="button" value="Show" style="width:60px;font-size:10px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" onClick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = ''; this.value = 'Hide'; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = 'none'; this.value = 'Show'; }"></div><div class="alt2" style="margin: 0px; padding: 6px; border: 1px inset;"><div style="display: none;"><br>Who<br><div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px"><div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px"><b>Spoiler</b> for <i>Hidden</i>: <input type="button" value="Show" style="width:60px;font-size:10px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" onClick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = ''; this.value = 'Hide'; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = 'none'; this.value = 'Show'; }"></div><div class="alt2" style="margin: 0px; padding: 6px; border: 1px inset;"><div style="display: none;"><br>Will notice. &nbsp;</div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><br>

Xevross

Shinobi's tweet got me this morning, had a good laugh after. Twitter decided to send it to my phone as a notification (happens once a day roughly and seemingly random tweets from people I follow). The notification literally just said "tweet from shinobi: sony officially announced playstation meeting..." and I was like OMG! Clicked on it and yeah.... twitter and shinobi teaming up to troll me.

I'm trying not to get my hopes up. It'll happen when it happens.

Legend




Oh boy did someone mention the PlayStation Theater?


Spoiler for Hidden:
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/xRwpubI.jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img"><br><br>It&#39;s funny how this little cube gets around.<br><br><div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px"><div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px"><b>Spoiler</b> for <i>Hidden</i>: <input type="button" value="Show" style="width:60px;font-size:10px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" onClick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = ''; this.value = 'Hide'; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.display = 'none'; this.value = 'Show'; }"></div><div class="alt2" style="margin: 0px; padding: 6px; border: 1px inset;"><div style="display: none;"><br>PlayStation Theater closed a few months ago lol.<br></div></div></div><br>

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Xevross


I miss this guy.

the-pi-guy

I miss this guy.
Me too.  Truly a legend among men.  

Legend

I miss this guy.
He still tweets on his own account but it just isn't the same.

the-pi-guy

I'm going to say:
50% chance before March 16
100% chance before June 21

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