General Politics Thread

Started by the-pi-guy, Jun 08, 2017, 12:22 PM

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kitler53

ugh.  i'm watching the trump/zelensky/JD exchange and this is soo embarrassing for america.    trump and jd are soo disrespectful to zelensky and soo mercenary in nature.   trump clearly doesn't have any problems with inhumane things happening in the world.   he only cares about how he profits.
         

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kitler53

oh mother fudge maker.  just blamed biden for russia invading ukraine.   
         

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kitler53

lmfao.   "security is easy.  everyone stop shooting."  
         

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Quote from: kitler53 on Feb 28, 2025, 05:54 PMhe literally attacked verzion in the tweet you embedded.  maybe read the material you post a bit before dismissing everything.  oh and it seems you missed an important part of the story:


This is the tweet the article is based on. The "important part of this story" is the first tweet I shared with you.

They just left off Musk's correction.

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Yeah wow the parts of the Zelensky meeting I watched really are crazy

kitler53

i didn't find a youtube version of this exact exchange but here is the NYT link for those that can watch it.


https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000010019918/trump-zelensky-vance-ukraine.html?smid=url-share
         

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Horizon

I can feel quite a bit of anti US sentiment building up in Europe, Canada and Mexico. 


kitler53

Quote from: Horizon on Mar 03, 2025, 03:31 PMI can feel quite a bit of anti US sentiment building up in Europe, Canada and Mexico.


i'm have a trip to Amsterdam in just a few weeks.  i'm already feeling like maybe this won't be a good trip.   

i really can't blame europe for feeling anti-american.   we've clearly been taken over by russia.   


you guys really had better ramp up your military spending because when trump talks about corruption/fraud in other groups he's really broadcasting the corruption/fraud he's planning to commit.   when trump blamed ukraine for starting WW3 last week you guys should very much take that as trump is going to attack you.   it's probably more likely america attacks canada/mexico and russia attacks europe but 100% america will not be there to help you.   all you'll get from america is a BS narrative about how it's europe's fault that russia invaded you.

i cannot apologize enough to make up for harm we are clearly going to cause you.   
         

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Quote from: kitler53 on Mar 03, 2025, 03:57 PMi'm have a trip to Amsterdam in just a few weeks.  i'm already feeling like maybe this won't be a good trip. 

i really can't blame europe for feeling anti-american.  we've clearly been taken over by russia. 


you guys really had better ramp up your military spending because when trump talks about corruption/fraud in other groups he's really broadcasting the corruption/fraud he's planning to commit.  when trump blamed ukraine for starting WW3 last week you guys should very much take that as trump is going to attack you.  it's probably more likely america attacks canada/mexico and russia attacks europe but 100% america will not be there to help you.  all you'll get from america is a BS narrative about how it's europe's fault that russia invaded you.

i cannot apologize enough to make up for harm we are clearly going to cause you. 

Where are you from in the US? If you say you're from like Cali, NY etc basically liberal places you'll be fine. 

Russia won't attack Europe because it can barely win a war against Ukraine never mind other countries. 

I think the US is going to get royally screwed when these tariffs come in. Americans just don't know it yet.


kitler53

Quote from: Horizon on Mar 03, 2025, 04:09 PMWhere are you from in the US? If you say you're from like Cali, NY etc basically liberal places you'll be fine.

Russia won't attack Europe because it can barely win a war against Ukraine never mind other countries.

I think the US is going to get royally screwed when these tariffs come in. Americans just don't know it yet.


IL.

would russia be losing in ukraine without america's support?   will europe be able to defend itself not just without an absence america but quite probably an america that deliberately sabotages supply chains  and issues economic sanctions?

don't trust us.   under trump we are the enemy.



also yes.  americas are soo f'ing screwed.  i'm cutting back as much spending as i can already.   hard times are coming.
         

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kitler53

on a highly related topic:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/03/trump-government-spending-gdp-doge

US may exclude government spending from GDP, obscuring effect of Doge cuts


in summary: when the economy goes bad lie about the economy

soo many of trump's base railed against the reports that the economy was getting better under biden as lies.   to be honest their views were honestly quite appropriate because things were not good all over.   wonder how those same people will react to trumps reports of an amazing economy when the truth is things are degrading for everyone.
         

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Quote from: kitler53 on Mar 03, 2025, 04:17 PMIL.

would russia be losing in ukraine without america's support?  will europe be able to defend itself not just without an absence america but quite probably an america that deliberately sabotages supply chains  and issues economic sanctions?

don't trust us.  under trump we are the enemy.



also yes.  americas are soo f'ing screwed.  i'm cutting back as much spending as i can already.  hard times are coming.

Hard to say if US did not get involved Europe could easily defend itself. 4 countries in Europe have bigger economies than Russia. It's just about political will to invest in military and defence and it looks like its finally happening. If the US got involved then US would literally have lost all its main allies. You think Japan, South Korea, Australia and NZ would want to maintain allies with a provocative US troubling Europe I don't think so. I'm having trouble of thinking of other US allies. That's why aligning with Russia is so stupid. The US has nothing to gain as all Russia has is oil and gas which the US already has in abundance.

kitler53

Quote from: Horizon on Mar 03, 2025, 04:27 PMHard to say if US did not get involved Europe could easily defend itself. 4 countries in Europe have bigger economies than Russia. It's just about political will to invest in military and defence and it looks like its finally happening. If the US got involved then US would literally have lost all its main allies. You think Japan, South Korea, Australia and NZ would want to maintain allies with a provocative US troubling Europe I don't think so. I'm having trouble of thinking of other US allies. That's why aligning with Russia is so stupid. The US has nothing to gain as all Russia has is oil and gas which the US already has in abundance.
a think to consider is if europe itself will retrain it's identity as a place of freedom.

my whole life i would have though america was too moral to align itself with the pure evil that is putin.  a country without free press.  a country without free elections.  a country that routinely imprisons or murders political adversaries.  ...and yet here we are today and america surrendered on bended-knee to putin without soo much as 1 shot fired.   they overtook us by radicalizing our conservative party.

so don't forget musk interfered in the german election to help elect the remnants of their nazi party.   the greatest threat comes from within.  
         

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Quote from: kitler53 on Mar 03, 2025, 05:09 PMa think to consider is if europe itself will retrain it's identity as a place of freedom.

my whole life i would have though america was too moral to align itself with the pure evil that is putin.  a country without free press.  a country without free elections.  a country that routinely imprisons or murders political adversaries.  ...and yet here we are today and america surrendered on bended-knee to putin without soo much as 1 shot fired.  they overtook us by radicalizing our conservative party.

so don't forget musk interfered in the german election to help elect the remnants of their nazi party.  the greatest threat comes from within. 

Oh yeah there are issues with radical right wing parties rising across all over Europe. I hope we're educated enough to withstand them. 

kitler53

Quote from: Horizon on Mar 04, 2025, 08:13 AMOh yeah there are issues with radical right wing parties rising across all over Europe. I hope we're educated enough to withstand them.

i personally don't really get it but this right wing nationalism anti-immigrant and death the the global elites mentality but it seems to be a world wide problem right now.    humanity seems unable to fully learn from the past only trusting what they learned for themselves.  they can't just be told "don't touch the stove or you'll get burned" they need to touch it for themselves get burned to really learn the lesson.   so here we hurting ourselves...
         

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