Women's March protest

[Legend]

It's potentially the biggest combined protest in history so that on its own is thread worthy.

Denver


Washington

+practically every other large city in America and around the world.

[Max King of the Wild]

Don't tell Democrats that foreign countries are trying to influence US politics

[the-pi-guy]

This is waaaaay bigger than I thought it was.  

[Xevross]

I saw that the New York PD said the crowd there was over half a million. DC crowd was bigger than that as well. There was also a huge crowd in London, I know a few people that went. Apparently the crowd in London was about 100,000 in size. That's pretty big

Unfortunately it will likely not achieve anything

[DerNebel]

I saw that the New York PD said the crowd there was over half a million. DC crowd was bigger than that as well. There was also a huge crowd in London, I know a few people that went. Apparently the crowd in London was about 100,000 in size. That's pretty big

Unfortunately it will likely not achieve anything

Is it actually trying to achieve anything in particular?

[Xevross]

Is it actually trying to achieve anything in particular?

Sending a message to Trump, giving people hope for the future?

Yeah, nothing in particular really. I think it was just important for big groups to get to together and demonstrate that many people still believe in their values and will continue to fight for them.

[Aura7541]

Well as long as there is no rioting like yesterday...

[DerNebel]

Sending a message to Trump, giving people hope for the future?

Yeah, nothing in particular really. I think it was just important for big groups to get to together and demonstrate that many people still believe in their values and will continue to fight for them.

Well, I think a message will be send by this. Not sure if it'll reach the nutjob Trump though. Apparently he's now claiming the media is lying about the size of his inauguration crowd, dude's completely detached from reality.

[Xevross]

Well, I think a message will be send by this. Not sure if it'll reach the nutjob Trump though. Apparently he's now claiming the media is lying about the size of his inauguration crowd, dude's completely detached from reality.

He constantly lies about everything. I have no idea how people can believe anything he says, with the record he has. The amount of times he's gone against hard facts is ridiculous. These demonstrations won't affect him at all

[the-pi-guy]

153 things Donald Trump has said and done that, in a normal election, would disqualify a nominee | Hillary for America

He constantly lies about everything. I have no idea how people can believe anything he says, with the record he has. The amount of times he's gone against hard facts is ridiculous. These demonstrations won't affect him at all

It's bizarre.  
Even a lot of the people who voted for him are excusing it.  "Oh, he's not really going to do anything about Obamacare!"

[DerNebel]

153 things Donald Trump has said and done that, in a normal election, would disqualify a nominee | Hillary for America
It's bizarre.  
Even a lot of the people who voted for him are excusing it.  "Oh, he's not really going to do anything about Obamacare!"

I think Rol on the chertz said something to that effect, basically saying that he didn't mean all the outlandish things he said anyways. But what kind of logic is that? On what basis are you voting for a person, if you think that he doesn't mean half the things he's saying? How do you know he means the things you want him to be serious about?

I mean democracy is about compromises and you'll never get a candidate that you'll agree with 100% so you'll simply have to pick the one that aligns with your thoughts most. But how do you do that, if you know the candidate is just constantly lying and flip flopping around his policy anyways?

[the-pi-guy]

I think Rol on the chertz said something to that effect, basically saying that he didn't mean all the outlandish things he said anyways. But what kind of logic is that? On what basis are you voting for a person, if you think that he doesn't mean half the things he's saying? How do you know he means the things you want him to be serious about?

I mean democracy is about compromises and you'll never get a candidate that you'll agree with 100% so you'll simply have to pick the one that aligns with your thoughts most. But how do you do that, if you know the candidate is just constantly lying and flip flopping around his policy anyways?

Don't ask me.

There's been so many things.  Some people thought he wasn't serious about a wall, some people thought lots of other things.  Doesn't make a lick of sense.  

[darkknightkryta]

Don't ask me.

There's been so many things.  Some people thought he wasn't serious about a wall, some people thought lots of other things.  Doesn't make a lick of sense. 

To this day, I will never know why people think things are free.  My father and sister are ragging on the current government here, but they expect hundreds of billions of dollars that gets poured into health care, to not get cut if conservatives get into power and cut taxes.  The current government is pouring billions of dollars into repaving roads.  But hey, cutting taxes get that stuff done.  My sister's been using the provincial transit system to get to work in the morning.  The same provincial system that was in shambles, dumped on the local cities, cities that went bankrupt because of what the "right" did until the liberal government had to fix it over the last 10 years.  But hey, get that all cut and start paying 20 dollars a ticket instead of 6 (Provincial transit is longer distance, and also by the KM). 

Like it's mind boggling.  I said the other day that our PM Mulroney should have been thrown in jail for signing NAFTA.  I mentioned that there was no debt in Canada until he came into power (He racked up 200 billion dollars of debt in his term... somehow).  My sister said "There was debt", like really?  Do you just not believe facts?  I tell people we have the lowest income rates in the country, next to like one place in the country that's 1% lower.  They don't believe me.  We have the highest income tax rate in Canada according them.  Like, we pay 5% if you make 40k or less, every other provinces starts at 8 and go as high as 12.  I know, I did a whole math unit on this and got the numbers straight from the Canada Revenue website.  I remember arguing with a coworker around last election in the province.  Apparently Quebec has lower taxes and little debt.  When I actually went to go look into it, Quebec has AS much debt as Ontario, yet managed that with HIGHER TAXES!  I wish I knew that then.  Poor guy, he actually cares for people too.  But hey, the conservatives will come back into power, like they did before, cut taxes, cut vital services, and rack up more debt.  All so their corporate buddies can get their tax breaks.  Then they manage to blame the right for their mess.  Like, don't get me wrong, every politician is crooked, but I'd rather take the ones who "try" to give back than the ones who just let the rich take.
Edit: Blame the left*

[Xevross]

To this day, I will never know why people think things are free.  My father and sister are ragging on the current government here, but they expect hundreds of billions of dollars that gets poured into health care, to not get cut if conservatives get into power and cut taxes.  The current government is pouring billions of dollars into repaving roads.  But hey, cutting taxes get that stuff done.  My sister's been using the provincial transit system to get to work in the morning.  The same provincial system that was in shambles, dumped on the local cities, cities that went bankrupt because of what the "right" did until the liberal government had to fix it over the last 10 years.  But hey, get that all cut and start paying 20 dollars a ticket instead of 6 (Provincial transit is longer distance, and also by the KM).  

Like it's mind boggling.  I said the other day that our PM Mulroney should have been thrown in jail for signing NAFTA.  I mentioned that there was no debt in Canada until he came into power (He racked up 200 billion dollars of debt in his term... somehow).  My sister said "There was debt", like really?  Do you just not believe facts?  I tell people we have the lowest income rates in the country, next to like one place in the country that's 1% lower.  They don't believe me.  We have the highest income tax rate in Canada according them.  Like, we pay 5% if you make 40k or less, every other provinces starts at 8 and go as high as 12.  I know, I did a whole math unit on this and got the numbers straight from the Canada Revenue website.  I remember arguing with a coworker around last election in the province.  Apparently Quebec has lower taxes and little debt.  When I actually went to go look into it, Quebec has AS much debt as Ontario, yet managed that with HIGHER TAXES!  I wish I knew that then.  Poor guy, he actually cares for people too.  But hey, the conservatives will come back into power, like they did before, cut taxes, cut vital services, and rack up more debt.  All so their corporate buddies can get their tax breaks.  Then they manage to blame the right for their mess.  Like, don't get me wrong, every politician is crooked, but I'd rather take the ones who "try" to give back than the ones who just let the rich take.

People are complaining about high taxes when your lower bracket amount is 5%? What?

In the UK its 0% up to £11,000 but then 20% up to £43,000. 5% is crazy low.

People are hard to please these days. No matter what party is running the country or what they are doing, everyone just complains about the few things they are doing wrong and forgets about all the good work they're doing. It creates an environment of discontent and makes people want to vote for the opposition, but when they're in power the same thing happens. Some people are just way too fickle like that. Then on the other hand you have the stubborn idiots who have convinced themselves of lies and deny the truth when its pointed out to them.

People don't appreciate how hard it is to govern a country. Too many out there expect miracles and complain about anything less.

[darkknightkryta]

People are complaining about high taxes when your lower bracket amount is 5%? What?

In the UK its 0% up to £11,000 but then 20% up to £43,000. 5% is crazy low.

People are hard to please these days. No matter what party is running the country or what they are doing, everyone just complains about the few things they are doing wrong and forgets about all the good work they're doing. It creates an environment of discontent and makes people want to vote for the opposition, but when they're in power the same thing happens. Some people are just way too fickle like that. Then on the other hand you have the stubborn idiots who have convinced themselves of lies and deny the truth when its pointed out to them.

People don't appreciate how hard it is to govern a country. Too many out there expect miracles and complain about anything less.

Federal is 18%, provincial is 5.05%, so a total of ~24%.  Higher than UK, plus 13% sales tax (5% federal 8% provincial). Like taxes are relatively high, but as you mention there's a whole slew of other problems that the governments have to deal with.  Doesn't change the fact that we have the lowest taxes in the country bar Alberta, which is in a huge mess, again because of the "right".  Funny thing is, my sister complaining and wants to live in the U.S. but is completely oblivious to the government programs she uses.  My sister used to take my niece to music programs that the province is running.  She paid nothing.  Guess how much that program would be in the U.S.?  Not free.