Donald Trump is the 45th president of America

[Mmm_fish_tacos]

scary,  

[the-pi-guy]

Kris Kobach, architect of "papers, please" profiling laws, named to Trump transition - NeoGAF

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach has been asked to join President-elect Donald Trump's transition team. The team will advise Trump on policy issues leading up to his swearing-in in January, preparing him to begin his first 100 days in office. It's an unpaid position for Kobach(

 

Why should this terrify you? Because Donald Trump has just named one of the most racist politicians in all of America to his transition team. Kris Kobach was the architect of the most racist law in modern American history. SB 1070 passed in Arizona in 2010. What did it mean? If you have brown skin or an accent, police had a right to stop you, detain you and demand you prove your citizenship. It was nicknamed the "Papers Please" law and thanks to Kris Kobach and the right-wing ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council), two dozen copycat bills quickly spread to other conservative states. Can you imagine walking down the street and police having the power to stop you and your children and throw you in jail on the suspicion alone that maybe you don't belong? Because you have brown skin or an accent? Terrifying, right?

 

Before becoming the secretary of state in Kansas, Kobach worked for an organization the Southern Poverty Law Center has designated as a hate group:

Kobach's closeness to hate groups runs far deeper than speaking to TSCP. For years, Kobach has worked as a lawyer for the legal arm of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). The Southern Poverty Law Center has listed FAIR as a hate group since 2007—and for good reason. Tanton founded FAIR, and its current President Dan Stein has said, among other things, "Immigrants don't come all church-loving, freedom-loving, God-fearing ... Many of them hate America, hate everything that the United States stands for." In another instance, Stein said that the 1965 Immigration Act, which undid four decades of explicitly racist immigration policy in the United States, "was a great way to retaliate against Anglo-Saxon dominance and hubris...and it's a form of revengism, or revenge, that these forces continue to push the immigration policy that they know full well are (sic) creating chaos and will continue to create chaos down the line."

 

Kris Kobach is also extremely dedicated to making sure that minorities, women and low-income voters can't participate in elections. His outrageously unconstitutional laws and actions were struck down by the federal courts last month. From the Kansas City Star:

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach has suffered another stinging, embarrassing loss in court. And that's a victory for the rights of voters in the Sunflower State. Kobach's anti-voter efforts were slapped down Friday by a federal appeals court in the District of Columbia. Earlier this year, the often-smug Kobach had assured people that the courts would uphold his attempt to make it harder to vote.

 

But that hasn't happened at any step of the way, as courts often have ruled against Kobach's disdainful attitude toward voters — especially those who have low incomes or are minorities.
 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1...o-Trump-s-team Better start organizing and take action.
 

[DD_Bwest]

ya i saw that and its pretty iced. its important not to label everyone a racist,  but kobach is like one step away from dawning a white robe.   scary af.

[the-pi-guy]

ya i saw that and its pretty iced. its important not to label everyone a racist,  but kobach is like one step away from dawning a white robe.   scary af.

Every time I stop worrying, something like this comes up...

[Aura7541]

ya i saw that and its pretty iced. its important not to label everyone a racist,  but kobach is like one step away from dawning a white robe.   scary af.

The one really annoying thing about actual white nationalists is that they claim that there is a white genocide. Yes, there has been discrimination against white people, but that doesn't equate to a genocide.

[Mmm_fish_tacos]

Eh.. I don't know how to feel right now. There's just so much that I've been reading that i'm unsure about now. Who he's choosing for positions is getting scary. I feel like America rejected the devil we knew for the devil we don't.

[DD_Bwest]

not much anyone can do for a while tho,  stuck with him for now.  Dems need to show up in 2 years.  They need to find leadership, they need to re organize, and get a plan to put a stop to the don at the earliest chance.   This could serve as a wake up call. use it to galvanize a base that will grow.  

I think the left fell to complacency

[Aura7541]

not much anyone can do for a while tho,  stuck with him for now.  Dems need to show up in 2 years.  They need to find leadership, they need to re organize, and get a plan to put a stop to the don at the earliest chance.   This could serve as a wake up call. use it to galvanize a base that will grow.  

I think the left fell to complacency

Well, the Democrats already has some ammunition available for the next 2 years. Now it's the matter of whether (1) they spot Trump's early errors and (2) use that to their advantage.

[Max King of the Wild]

Why can't people understand the simple fact that Hillary did NOT win the popular vote either.

When more people are against you than for... That's not winning anything. She got more votes than trump. She lead all candidates in the popular vote but she did not win. I feel like bashing my head into a wall because Hillary supporters refuse to understand this. No matter how many examples or scenarios I give. They don't counter any of my points except saying "no dude. She won." They clearly don't understand the EV which is concerning they vote... At least understand that before complaining.

In their fantasy of going by popular vote, you'd have a very likely possibility of 3 candidates splitting the vote. In the scenario, you'd have a winner which doesn't represent 2/3 of the country which is absurd

[the-pi-guy]

She won the popular vote, lost the electoral vote.  

The popular vote are these numbers:
   
Donald Trump - 60,071,650

Hillary Clinton - 60,467,245

More people voted for her, but she didn't have the right distribution, and she lost the EV.  


And people don't understand the EV.  

[Max King of the Wild]

What they don't understand is that since NO ONE won then we'd need a very expensive, resources and effort intensive second election day for a run off between trump and Clinton. It's unfair to ALL parties (not just the two) and the voters.

She won the popular vote, lost the electoral vote. 

The popular vote are these numbers:
 
Donald Trump - 60,071,650

Hillary Clinton - 60,467,245

More people voted for her, but she didn't have the right distribution, and she lost the EV. 


And people don't understand the EV. 

You're ignoring 6m votes

[DerNebel]

Why can't people understand the simple fact that Hillary did NOT win the popular vote either.

When more people are against you than for... That's not winning anything. She got more votes than trump. She lead all candidates in the popular vote but she did not win. I feel like bashing my head into a wall because Hillary supporters refuse to understand this. No matter how many examples or scenarios I give. They don't counter any of my points except saying "no dude. She won." They clearly don't understand the EV which is concerning they vote... At least understand that before complaining.

In their fantasy of going by popular vote, you'd have a very likely possibility of 3 candidates splitting the vote. In the scenario, you'd have a winner which doesn't represent 2/3 of the country which is absurd

Right now the US president was voted for by about a fifth of the population.

Also the scenario you're describing at the bottom is the exact reason why coalitions exist. In 2009 the election winner in Germany also got only about a third of the votes, so as is par for the course here, they had to form a coalition with another party to get a government majority.

What really is absurd is the US trying to funnel the political views of over 300 million people into two parties, that is absurd.

[Max King of the Wild]

Right now the US president was voted for by about a fifth of the population.

Also the scenario you're describing at the bottom is the exact reason why coalitions exist. In 2009 the election winner in Germany also got only about a third of the votes, so as is par for the course here, they had to form a coalition with another party to get a government majority.

What really is absurd is the US trying to funnel the political views of over 300 million people into two parties, that is absurd.

How did you get 1/5? 130m/320m is more than a third. And a good amount of the population can't vote yet

Tell me more of these coalitions.

Yeah, I can't stand the two party system. It mutes the voice of millions. But the ones in charge won't want to change it. Keeps them in power and easier to manipulate


From what I gather, 200m are registered to vote. Around 130m are going to vote.

[the-pi-guy]

Only 60 million voted Trump.  60/320 is less than 1/5th.  

[Max King of the Wild]

Only 60 million voted Trump.  60/320 is less than 1/5th.  

Since when do non us citizens and children get to vote?

60/200*100 = 30%