NX LEAKED: LEGIT! 100% not a troll "WOW"

[BananaKing]

if this is true, then expect shame gaming experiences on this. touch screen buttons are shame, and physical buttons are much more superior. if this is the main controller the NX will sell less than 15 million units.

[Legend]

I haven't re-caught up with this morning's news, but here's a rundown of my thoughts.

First off I think this controller is fake. Probably a college student in Sweden made one just for fun. With access to school equipment, building one of these wouldn't be too hard. My biggest problem with the design is that it looks too good. At this stage the device should be bulky and industrial. Changes are made often so companies don't waste money by trying to make each iteration look consumer quality. Here is an early dev kits for the Wii U.



Even current Wii U dev kits are ugly and would never be confused for a retail product.

Plus they don't resend dev kits every time they make a change. I'm going off memory here, but these leaked PS4 controllers



Stayed in use well after the PS4 launched. It didn't matter to upgrade them.



We also have both leakers showing a clear disregard for hiding their identity. PS4 picture above has hardly anything in the picture that could be used to track down the dev. Meanwhile the first leak



Has needless handwriting and what looks like a drawing pad. Both needlessly help Nintendo ninjas track him down.

The recent pics take this lack of caring to an extreme.

We see the dev kit number clear as day, we see a Swedish Macbook, we see some nail nicknack in the back, his desk is clearly identifiable from the wood, his monitor is Samsung, he has a window desk, a birch tree is outside his window, window blinds are visible in the second picture, he has a specific HDMI cable, and his freaking reflection is in the NX!

It's almost like this guy is trying to get caught.


Speaking of the HDMI cable, it looks like it'd plug into his mac. That just seems weird for a high class dev who'd have an NX.


My last reason for thinking it's fake is the buttons. The analogue sticks do not look realistic nor good. There are only a few ways the plastic could move and all of them are pretty horrible. Also the major problem is a lack of a home button. Right where the camera is, there should be another physical button. Otherwise how would it be turned on/awoke? If Nintendo was trying this hard to replicate the smartphone feel, they'd probably replicate that too.



So I think both leaks are from the same guy who just 3D printed this based off the patents.

However, I also think the real NX is pretty similar and also based off the patents. That would be why no trusted insiders have confirmed this either way, yet one insider confirmed it sounded correct.

I think the design is actually pretty cool too! NX portable will look a lot like this and also work as a controller. This helps keep both platforms connected and for software to feel good on both systems. When playing NX mobile the touch screen controller works just like smartphone gaming, but for console gaming the touch screen is only used to display buttons. This allows the device to feel approachable and for non gamers to treat it like controlling the NX with a smartphone. More complex games will have more buttons on the screen.

The screen is also used for Wii U backwards compatibility.

However, Nintendo understands core gamers too. The NX will have a pro controller just like the Wii U. The beauty of this is that since the screen controller is primarily only used for slimming down button clutter, the pro controller can play almost all NX games just fine. I could see the pro controller having a touchpad like the DS4 as well.

Like I said, they never learn.  The people who would have bought an Apple version of this, aren't going to buy the Nintendo version of this.  So the question is, who did they make this for?  I also disagree about the button problem.  Wiimote solved the complexity problem, that anyone over 60 would have, cause you'd have to still be watching tube tv and listening to radio to have issues with a controller.  Digital buttons do not solve the 4-10 problem since the 4-10 year olds need the tactile buttons to learn.  Like feeling them out, etc.  Putting a picture of a button is going to make a child think they're pictures and don't do anything.  Putting physical buttons will make children explore them.  The 10-30 are going to play Call of Duty, which will fail here since you don't want to shoot with the scroll wheel of a mouse.  You can't play any fighting games, including Smash.  This is going to be trouble playing Zelda and Mario with since you need reflexes and constant eye on the screen which you can't do with this controller cause you have to look down or miss the button.  Plus the awkward placement of buttons by the analogue sticks which make them unusable.  Like you might be able to get the 4-10 crowd, but unless Nintendo wants to shift to learning based software that you get for free with the phone you already paid for... I can't even fathom what Nintendo execs are thinking.  I don't understand how this left the design phase.  There's literally 12 design philosophies in technology and this honest to god fails every one of them.  This also has the problem that screwed the Wii U over.  Price.  This thing will be minimum 50 dollars to manufacture.  If not more since the display is new tech.  That's out of the console's budget and we're back at a 199 dollar hardware machine.  Microsoft is probably losing money on every Xbox One sold and cost 350 at a store.

The screen controller would be for traditionally smartphone players. That includes most 4-10 year olds who play their parents' devices. It'd be possible to play all games using this controller, but for more traditional gamers we'll be able to use a pro controller.

Price is the only negative if they go this route. Who knows, maybe they'll have different console versions too.

[Mmm_fish_tacos]

I'm pretty sure I could draw that up in sketch up in an hour ad have it 3d printed.

[darkknightkryta]

The screen controller would be for traditionally smartphone players. That includes most 4-10 year olds who play their parents' devices. It'd be possible to play all games using this controller, but for more traditional gamers we'll be able to use a pro controller.

Price is the only negative if they go this route. Who knows, maybe they'll have different console versions too.

You ignored what I said about the software.  Unless Nintendo wants to start making pure educational software, with large buttons that don't do much other than select, this controller is terrible.

[Legend]

You ignored what I said about the software.  Unless Nintendo wants to start making pure educational software, with large buttons that don't do much other than select, this controller is terrible.

I didn't realise that was a whole point in itself.

Tons of games would be perfectly fine with this. The analogue sticks as described in the patent can act like weapon wheels to select any button around them. Mario/most Nintendo games could use the left stick for motion and the right stick for actions.

I'm pretty sure I could draw that up in sketch up in an hour ad have it 3d printed.

Yeah if I had money and shipping didn't take as long, I'd be tempted to make my own fake just for fun.

[darkknightkryta]

I didn't realise that was a whole point in itself.

Tons of games would be perfectly fine with this. The analogue sticks as described in the patent can act like weapon wheels to select any button around them. Mario/most Nintendo games could use the left stick for motion and the right stick for actions.
Yeah if I had money and shipping didn't take as long, I'd be tempted to make my own fake just for fun.

So you're saying we should replace regular push buttons for terrible analogue stick push buttons?  There's a reason those go almost unused on PS1/PS2/PS3 and PS4 games...

[Legend]

So you're saying we should replace regular push buttons for terrible analogue stick push buttons?  There's a reason those go almost unused on PS1/PS2/PS3 and PS4 games...

No, you're again misunderstanding. It's not pushing the button inward, but pushing it in a direction just like a d-pad.

[the-pi-guy]

No, you're again misunderstanding. It's not pushing the button inward, but pushing it in a direction just like a d-pad.

Personally I find that worse than touch  screen "buttons".  

[Legend]

Nintendo Internal Handbook Leak : NintendoNX

This guy sounds kinda real haha.

[Mmm_fish_tacos]

Nintendo Internal Handbook Leak : NintendoNX

This guy sounds kinda real haha.

Fake!

[the-pi-guy]

Fake!

He sounds too lame to be fake.  

"Guys, I found PS4.5.  
Is anyone interested?  
It has my name on it, any ideas how to remove that?  Don't want to get in trouble."

[Legend]

He sounds too lame to be fake.  

"Guys, I found PS4.5.  
Is anyone interested?  
It has my name on it, any ideas how to remove that?  Don't want to get in trouble."

Exactly!

Plus the watermark stuff like that is pretty common.

[Legend]

I just love how this ties in to Kyle Bosman's jokes



No buttons!

Another fake leaker. This one seems even more convincing! I am a AAA dev who actually works with a real NX devkit. AMA. : NintendoNX

[DerNebel]

I just love how this ties in to Kyle Bosman's jokes



No buttons!

Another fake leaker. This one seems even more convincing! I am a AAA dev who actually works with a real NX devkit. AMA. : NintendoNX

Dude was asked about the type of RAM this has and said DDR5 which apparently doesn't even exist, they even gave him a chance to correct himself and he just reiterated DDR5, seems fishy to me. I don't know why people are doing this but for some reason people love making up rumours especially when it comes to Nintendo.

[Legend]

Dude was asked about the type of RAM this has and said DDR5 which apparently doesn't even exist, they even gave him a chance to correct himself and he just reiterated DDR5, seems fishy to me. I don't know why people are doing this but for some reason people love making up rumours especially when it comes to Nintendo.

Yeah it's been obvious from the get go that everything except the pictures were fake.

People love the attention and they like feeling important.