PlayStation Studios Development

Started by the-pi-guy, Mar 27, 2015, 08:29 PM

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nnodley

I'm so tired of the gamers feeling entitled

kitler53

Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Jun 30, 2026, 04:38 PMThis drove me nuts with God of War Ragnarok. Some were complaining that it wasn't another reinvention.
my only real complaint with GoW:R was the ending.

like there was a lot of building up to this "gran finale" and its like they tried really hard to make it an epic set piece but it didn't really achieve its goals.  it really felt like the kind of thing they should have brough ND in for because they are really good at this specific kind of set piece.  the kind that is very much on rails but still feels like you have agency driven by a sense of urgency. 

oh, and i felt like freya's turn from enemy to ally wasn't fully justified. 


but all in all it was a great game.  and it had some absolute amazing moments along the way.  sometimes i wish i didn't have such a massive backlog so that i'd feel compelled to replay some of the greats again.
         

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kitler53

Quote from: nnodley on Jun 30, 2026, 04:41 PMI'm so tired of the gamers feeling entitled
it's not just gamers but yeah,.. agreed 110%.   

in a word "entitlement" might be the biggest sin of our current age.  companies feel entitled to profit without investment.   politicians feel entitled to elections without service.  customers feel entitled to products without payment.  

greed is just unchecked at all levels right now. 
         

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kitler53

https://blog.playstation.com/2026/07/01/physical-disc-production-ending-in-january-2028-for-new-games-releasing-on-playstation-consoles/


physical disc discontinued January 2028. 


seems like a weird time to announce this.  obviously this means ps6 won't ship with a drive.  probably not even as an add-on.  seems like something that would be timed with the ps6 announcement.   

please don't announce ps6 now ..


and even though I'm 100% digital for games I still want a drive option.  literally right now I have these rented from the library on disc:
1. housemaid
2. Star Trek next Gen movie collection 
3. star trek lower desk S1
4. the assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford
5. pout pout fish
6. hoppers

         

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Legend

That sucks. i freaking love discs. I don't buy digital if I have a choice.

kitler53

Quote from: Legend on Yesterday at 02:42 PMThat sucks. i freaking love discs. I don't buy digital if I have a choice.
really, you're a disc guy?  would have pegged you as digital.


the more i think about this the more i think this is really an unforced error by sony. 
1. ps5 was sold with a drive.   people bought a ps5 expecting a drive to be supported.   it would make more sense to draw the line on the ps5/ps6 line then to just pick a date and say we are done.    i don't know when ps6 is launching but 2028 isn't far enough into the future to think ps5 isn't still getting a ton of support.

2. by announcing this sony is taking full blame.   right now GTA has no disc but people are playing TT.   i think fewer and fewer games would have shipped on disc as time marches on but the blame could have been distributed and now sony is taking 100% of the customer anger.   xbox has effectively stopped supporting discs already but they aren't getting the rage for it because the policy change wasn't announced and so the change is being phased in over time.

3. sony could have gone to a limited run type thing for extra $$.   instead of making XX number of discs up front they could have done a disc only availble via pre-order.   for those guys that really want a disc you'd be getting them to buy day-1 at full price and i'll bet a lot of them would get ordered even just by scalpers wanting to grab a couple thousand discs to resell once the game becomes unavailable without resellers.

4. isn't sony still making discs for movies anyways?   i can't believe there will be a massive cost savings when the equipment is still in use for movies which is having a resurgance in popularity according to Pi.
         

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the-pi-guy

Quote from: kitler53 on Yesterday at 03:09 PM4. isn't sony still making discs for movies anyways?  i can't believe there will be a massive cost savings when the equipment is still in use for movies which is having a resurgance in popularity according to Pi.

There are lots of articles that talk about resurgence.
But I think for the most part things are just stable.  

The UHD-BD format did have some growth last year for the first time ever.  


The sad thing is that I generally buy games digitally. Which I started doing because the kids would get into them.  

Unlike games, movies are very portable. I can rip them pretty easily and stream them to like 8 different devices in my home.  

I feel like it's harder with games, because I feel like the bigger failure point is the console itself. 

kitler53

Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Yesterday at 04:36 PMI feel like it's harder with games, because I feel like the bigger failure point is the console itself. 
disagree with blaming consoles.   ..or maybe i'm taking you too literally?

the problem is as bad if not worse on PC because the pain paint is video games aren't static.   bug fixes and dlc make things a constantly moving target to the point of why even put any data on the disc.  if you try to play it 12 months after release the game data could be 30% different or more.
         

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the-pi-guy

Quote from: kitler53 on Today at 12:13 AMdisagree with blaming consoles.  ..or maybe i'm taking you too literally?

I mean pretty much the only way to play a PS3 game is to have a PS3. There's technically a PS3 emulator on PC, but I think it's still somewhat a work in progress. I would be worried about my PS3 failing before Sony pulled the licenses to the PS3 games. My console is the failure point in my view. 

Kind of like how for movies/shows, my disc drives are probably the failure point for my collecting. 

Quotethe problem is as bad if not worse on PC because the pain paint is video games aren't static.  bug fixes and dlc make things a constantly moving target to the point of why even put any data on the disc.  if you try to play it 12 months after release the game data could be 30% different or more.

And this is kind of why I am not as big on physical media for gaming. Not that I think it's unimportant. There are just a few big challenges with having physical games as the primary. This is one of them.

I wrote a slightly more thorough message to a friend about this:

QuoteI buy kind of a ridiculous amount of discs for movies/shows. I think fundamentally that's easier to work with than games. It's really easy to rip and watch those on any kind of device. Roku, Apple TV, Fire Stick, PS5, etc.
With games, I'm personally more concerned that my console would give out, before Sony pulled the digital licenses.  And short of some emulation more than 15 years later, games are very much tied to their platform. We still don't have great PS4 emulation, that came out 13 years ago.

It's even more difficult, because games today get so many patches. Even when you do get a release, it's often not wholly playable.


I have a lot more faith that my movie collection will be with me in 15 years. I'm sure that it'll move to a new computer, or something like that. But I don't worry that much about it failing.

BananaKing

Disc games help regulate the pricing of digital games. Once Sony owns the sales of all games then prices will not drop as much

I prefer to go digital but I buy physical a lot now as I can find them for cheaper. 

Hitman 3 was a perfect example, the price on digital just didn't drop. I found it for cheap on physical. 

kitler53

omg the doom posting on era is ridiculous now.  the transition to digital has been increadibly obvious for 10 years now.   we've had plenty of speculation post about whether or now the next xbox/ps would have a disc drive with a vast majority saying they won't.   now that we "know" it won't people are losing their shame.  

Quote from: kitler53 on Jun 30, 2026, 04:49 PMit's not just gamers but yeah,.. agreed 110%. 

in a word "entitlement" might be the biggest sin of our current age.  companies feel entitled to profit without investment.  politicians feel entitled to elections without service.  customers feel entitled to products without payment. 

greed is just unchecked at all levels right now.

perfectly timed discussion..

         

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Legend


Legend

Lol everyone is getting in on it.



the-pi-guy

I feel like way more people are dunking on Sony than actually care about physical media.  

kitler53

Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Today at 06:50 PMI feel like way more people are dunking on Sony than actually care about physical media. 
no doubt. we've seen the sales ratio.  hell, we know over half of ps5s lack a disc drive. 


my feeling is the steam platform warriors feel like they have achieved killing Xbox and now want to kill PlayStation. 
         

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