3rd party next gen exclusives?

[Raven]

Speaking of which, that seems to suddenly be some big talking point among certain fanbases. How Sony is evil for making SF5 exclusive. You see this pop up in articles saying things like, "Third party exclusivity is bad for the industry!" . Where were these articles and talking points for Dead Rising 3, Ryse, Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, and Scalebound? All of them are titles developed by third party studios. Titanfall was totally moneyhatted by Microsoft but I don't recall articles crying out for Microsoft to stop being a jerk and ruining the industry. The fact is, it's all barking because someone doesn't like that their preferred console isn't getting a game. Multiplatforming titles has not improved their quality. In fact, some argue it has caused the quality to drop in favor of easier profits. How quickly people forget that prior to the 7th generation third party exclusivity was rampant and the industry was not only just fine but growing. The only legitimate argument I can see against it is that it might force consumers to spend money on additional hardware that they would otherwise spend on games. Though this is really only the case for people who can afford to do so anyways. I would also argue that a game that is great enough to cause other games to lose sales because consumers decided to go out and buy another console for it deserves those sales. Besides, people buy consoles for first party exclusives as well. Should we argue that Sony needs to make games for Xbox One so that other titles don't lose sales?

[Raven]

Speaking of fighting games, I think Tekken 7 might also be exclusive to PS4. The most recent game, Tekken Revolution, only released on PS3. Also, the producer of the franchise said he'd like to keep it going on PS4. He made no mention of other consoles.

[Mmm_fish_tacos]

Speaking of fighting games, I think Tekken 7 might also be exclusive to PS4. The most recent game, Tekken Revolution, only released on PS3. Also, the producer of the franchise said he'd like to keep it going on PS4. He made no mention of other consoles.

Yeah, PS4 is going to be home of fighter this gen.

[Raven]

Yeah, PS4 is going to be home of fighter this gen.

It very well could be. They just locked Guilty Gear Xrd and Street Fighter 5 as well as the only current-gen console that will have Ultra Street Fighter 4, for a while anyway. That pretty much already makes the PS4 the go-to console for the FGC. Tekken 7 would just be icing on the cake.

[Mmm_fish_tacos]

It very well could be. They just locked Guilty Gear Xrd and Street Fighter 5 as well as the only current-gen console that will have Ultra Street Fighter 4, for a while anyway. That pretty much already makes the PS4 the go-to console for the FGC. Tekken 7 would just be icing on the cake.

Yes, I think it's going to have a much larger impact than the xbox guys want to believe. When you hold the keys to one particular genre it's a very powerful thing. Although the following for fighting game isn't what it use to be it's still quit substantial and will lead to millions is sales for ps4.

[Legend]

Plus mkx is playstation teamed. Doubt it will be exclusive, but still.

[Raven]

Yes, I think it's going to have a much larger impact than the xbots want to believe. When you hold the keys to one particular genre it's a very powerful thing. Although the following for fighting game isn't what it use to be it's still quit substantial and will lead to millions is sales for ps4.

When the main franchise of the FGC has just gone exclusive to your platform you pretty much own the genre. Not to mention, Street Fighter is one of the few fighting game franchises that actually sells well.

[Raven]

Plus mkx is playstation teamed. Doubt it will be exclusive, but still.

Wait what? PlayStation teamed? Explain.

[Legend]

Wait what? PlayStation teamed? Explain.

Pretty sure it's an exclusive marketing deal like Destiny.

[darkknightkryta]

Speaking of which, that seems to suddenly be some big talking point among certain fanbases. How Sony is evil for making SF5 exclusive. You see this pop up in articles saying things like, "Third party exclusivity is bad for the industry!" . Where were these articles and talking points for Dead Rising 3, Ryse, Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, and Scalebound? All of them are titles developed by third party studios. Titanfall was totally moneyhatted by Microsoft but I don't recall articles crying out for Microsoft to stop being a jerk and ruining the industry. The fact is, it's all barking because someone doesn't like that their preferred console isn't getting a game. Multiplatforming titles has not improved their quality. In fact, some argue it has caused the quality to drop in favor of easier profits. How quickly people forget that prior to the 7th generation third party exclusivity was rampant and the industry was not only just fine but growing. The only legitimate argument I can see against it is that it might force consumers to spend money on additional hardware that they would otherwise spend on games. Though this is really only the case for people who can afford to do so anyways. I would also argue that a game that is great enough to cause other games to lose sales because consumers decided to go out and buy another console for it deserves those sales. Besides, people buy consoles for first party exclusives as well. Should we argue that Sony needs to make games for Xbox One so that other titles don't lose sales?

That's the thing though, third party titles did end up on the Xbox or Gamecube.  Only Japanese devs made exclusives.

[darkknightkryta]

Yes, I think it's going to have a much larger impact than the xbox guys want to believe. When you hold the keys to one particular genre it's a very powerful thing. Although the following for fighting game isn't what it use to be it's still quit substantial and will lead to millions is sales for ps4.

The following is bigger in my opinion.  Tournaments and streaming are propping up out of nowhere.  I wouldn't be surprised if Twitch capabilities of PS4 will make it bigger.  On the flip side, the casualness of fighters will be down.

[Raven]

That's the thing though, third party titles did end up on the Xbox or Gamecube.  Only Japanese devs made exclusives.

Third party exclusives were everywhere during the 5th and 6th generations. It doesn't matter who made them and there were more than a few Western exclusives. The fact remains the industry was healthy and growing. Third party exclusivity doesn't happen nearly as often today so even if you could argue that it is indeed bad it happens so little it's only worth freaking out about if you're a salty fanboy. Where are these articles when games are only releasing on PC? Outside of Nintendo fans I don't see "industry ruining" arguments being made on behalf of Wii U not getting a third party game.

[darkknightkryta]

Third party exclusives were everywhere during the 5th and 6th generations. It doesn't matter who made them and there were more than a few Western exclusives. The fact remains the industry was healthy and growing. Third party exclusivity doesn't happen nearly as often today so even if you could argue that it is indeed bad it happens so little it's only worth freaking out about if you're a salty fanboy. Where are these articles when games are only releasing on PC? Outside of Nintendo fans I don't see "industry ruining" arguments being made on behalf of Wii U not getting a third party game.

What Western third party exclusives were there though?  All Activision games ended up on the gamecube and Xbox.  All EA games ended up on the Xbox.  All Ubisoft titles ended up on the Gamecube and Xbox.  All Eidos games ended up on the Xbox or Gamecube.  All Take-Two games ended up on the Xbox.   Like, I ultimately agree with you, because multiplatform development causes massive QA to happen.  I mean, Destiny cost 500 million dollars because it was made on 4 platforms, plus mismanagement, but the point remains.  I've been saying for a while, exclusives now will actually make publishers a lot more money than making a title multiplatform.  Dev times will shoot down.  Man power will go down.  Games will go out quicker.  But, this is more of now than it was back in the PS2 era.  It's also why I think EA did a 180 this past PSX.  They know they bet on the wrong horse and it bit them in the dog.  It's also why these Capcom deals make sense.

[Legend]

Yeah ^

Exclusives are the future. Everyone can ignore wii u without a sales hit, and now ignoring Xbox One isn't that hard either.

Around now and at E3 will be when we see the fruits of PS4's early lead.

[Raven]

What Western third party exclusives were there though?  All Activision games ended up on the gamecube and Xbox.  All EA games ended up on the Xbox.  All Ubisoft titles ended up on the Gamecube and Xbox.  All Eidos games ended up on the Xbox or Gamecube.  All Take-Two games ended up on the Xbox.   Like, I ultimately agree with you, because multiplatform development causes massive QA to happen.  I mean, Destiny cost 500 million dollars because it was made on 4 platforms, plus mismanagement, but the point remains.  I've been saying for a while, exclusives now will actually make publishers a lot more money than making a title multiplatform.  Dev times will shoot down.  Man power will go down.  Games will go out quicker.  But, this is more of now than it was back in the PS2 era.  It's also why I think EA did a 180 this past PSX.  They know they bet on the wrong horse and it bit them in the dog.  It's also why these Capcom deals make sense.

You're only pointing out the 6th generation and even then there were a number of Western third party exclusives including Knights of the Old Republic, Summoner, Red Faction, and Eternal Darkness. Crash Bandicoot is a good example of a Western exclusive from the 5th gen. Naughty Dog wasn't owned by Sony then. Hell, Microsoft bought Bungie and Halo while they were in the middle of working on it to make sure it went nowhere else but Xbox. I'm not saying that Western exclusives were anywhere near what Japan did. Not even close. But there were more Western third party exclusives than I think you think there were.