Ni No Kuni Official Thread: Cause why the heck not.

Started by Cute Pikachu, May 15, 2015, 12:59 AM

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Legend

Quote from: BasilZero on May 21, 2015, 03:06 AM
What happened to the thread and my response to Pezus?

Edit: Seriously - I would like to know what exactly happened to the thread for it to disappear and then come back with my response disappeared. This seems really shady and I dont tolerate shady stuff.

I have no clue.

Describe what happened please. I'll check the logs to see if a mod accidentally moved it or something.

BasilZero

Quote from: Legend on May 21, 2015, 03:28 AM
I have no clue.

Describe what happened please. I'll check the logs to see if a mod accidentally moved it or something.

I made a post as a response to Pezus' post about my Ni No Kuni response.

I didnt flame him or anything o.O

I just tried explaining my reasoning on why I scored it the way it came out and why I said "Average".

I then posted some screenshots of all the games I've scored since 2010.

Anyways I re-created the post and will be posting it after this.

BasilZero

Quote from: Pezus on May 20, 2015, 12:02 PM
So you generally give JRPGs higher scores than other games because of their genre?? Shouldn't you give a score comparing the game to others in its genre? o.O
Like a JRPG with 8.5 sounds like a great JRPG but then it turns out to be average!?

I dont "generally" give jRPGs higher scores than other games because of their genre. It does not make any sense to compare one genre to another - not sure why you are even mentioning this considering we're talking about Ni No Kuni which is a jRPG....

I give scores to games based on different aspects/criteria on my own scoring system which I have posted before. I try to stay away from comparing one game from another game within a genre (i.e. Final Fantasy vs Persona) due to the fact any comparison would be like comparing Apples to Oranges. But sometimes I do due to the fact that there are similarities between different games within the same genre but I mainly judge/compare the gameplay aspect rather than other aspects such as story, music, etc.

The reason for that is because what makes a game is...well its gameplay and that imo is the most important aspect in a game....otherwise it wouldnt be a game but a visual novel or some sort ;P.

If anything I compare games within an entire series since it feels more appropriate to compare two games within the same series more than within the same genre.

Ni No Kuni's score (much like every other game that I score and pretty much anyone ever scores) is based on different aspects within the game including Story, presentation, Gameplay, Music, etc. An 8.5 isnt bad - not saying that Ni No Kuni is a bad game nor am I saying its an overall average game - it has its great aspects such as the light hearted story which resonates well with its amazing visuals and fantastic soundtrack however its gameplay is far from perfect or that appealing (as I mentioned I try to stay away but gameplay wise its hard to) - which is why I consider it average especially since I'm comparing it to other jRPGs that came out before it and after it that have a far more appealing gameplay system at least in my opinion.

And that is what is most important :O! My opinion - if we all thought the same, this world would be more boring than it is now :P.

So sorry if I wasnt on point in explaining my reasoning for it to be average. I was mainly referring it to its gameplay since thats the first aspect I consider always in reviewing and imo it is what defines a game and makes it a game.

Anyways, here's a list of games I've completed/beaten and have scored since 2010! I know majority are Japanese games but I'm trying to play as many western games as I can :P!








Legend

Quote from: BasilZero on May 21, 2015, 03:29 AM
I made a post as a response to Pezus' post about my Ni No Kuni response.

I didnt flame him or anything o.O

I just tried explaining my reasoning on why I scored it the way it came out and why I said "Average".

I then posted some screenshots of all the games I've scored since 2010.

Anyways I re-created the post and will be posting it after this.

Your post either didn't submit or was removed by a glitch.

Every action taken within the forum environment is recorded. Even as an admin I can't get past the logs while in here. I see zero log entries for a post of yours being removed. Next I'll go through message by message to see if one's missing.

BasilZero

Quote from: Legend on May 21, 2015, 03:51 AM
Your post either didn't submit or was removed by a glitch.

Every action taken within the forum environment is recorded. Even as an admin I can't get past the logs while in here. I see zero log entries for a post of yours being removed. Next I'll go through message by message to see if one's missing.

No worries. Not sure what happened but it doesnt matter (since I reposted the post lol) I guess unless its something urgent and may find to be useful to help improve the quality of the forum o.O


Legend

Quote from: BasilZero on May 21, 2015, 03:53 AM
No worries. Not sure what happened but it doesnt matter (since I reposted the post lol) I guess unless its something urgent and may find to be useful to help improve the quality of the forum o.O



Yup I checked and no missing post. It's impossible to for that to be the case if the message was posted so it must have had an issue submitting.

BasilZero

Quote from: Legend on May 21, 2015, 03:57 AM
Yup I checked and no missing post. It's impossible to for that to be the case if the message was posted so it must have had an issue submitting.

Really odd. Oh well  - no big issue. Post was re-made but its odd that the thread disappeared for a few minutes o.O. I couldnt even find any of my posts I made before in the thread on my post history but they are there now.

Dr. Pezus

Yeah but doesn't it kind of point towards your scoring system being flawed when a game can be only average with an 8.5? Average should be 5 in a perfect world, but in the real world it's closer to 7.

You made it sound like 85 was only average because it's a JRPG, which made me think you scored JRPGs higher.
Even comparing the 85 to other JRPGs (same genre) it still wouldn't be average.
I mean, if I only saw the score I would think Ni no Kuni was great but apparently not!

BasilZero

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Quote from: Pezus on May 21, 2015, 10:46 AM
Yeah but doesn't it kind of point towards your scoring system being flawed when a game can be only average with an 8.5? Average should be 5 in a perfect world, but in the real world it's closer to 7.

You made it sound like 85 was only average because it's a JRPG, which made me think you scored JRPGs higher.
Even comparing the 85 to other JRPGs (same genre) it still wouldn't be average.
I mean, if I only saw the score I would think Ni no Kuni was great but apparently not!

Like I said, gameplay is average - Presentation, music and story heightened the score which is why its a 85 ;p

Well no scoring system is perfect which is why everyone has their own.

Anyways here's a breakdown on how I scored Ni No Kuni which may show more on why I think gameplay is average and ties along with what you said about average being 5.

• Story: 10/10
• Characters: 7/10
• GamePlay: 6/10
• Graphics: 10/10
• Sound: 10/10
• Music: 10/10
• Length: 10/10
• Replay Value: 5/10
• Player Value: 7/10

Total: 75 + 10 = 85

darkknightkryta

I seriously need to finish this.  I think I'll go back to it after I'm done crying for a week after I finish Arkham Knight.

Cute Pikachu

I'm gonna work on the thread this weekend in hopes of a ni no kuni 2 announcement Monday.
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Raven

Quote from: God-of-Sackboy on Jun 12, 2015, 11:20 PMI'm gonna work on the thread this weekend in hopes of a ni no kuni 2 announcement Monday.
The rumors I've been hearing make it sound like something NOT Ni No Kuni. Kagari also said something on NeoGAF that made it sound like it's not Dark Cloud 3. She could have also been trying to throw them off for guessing correctly but then again she could have just not said anything.

the-pi-guy

Quote from: Raven on Jun 12, 2015, 11:36 PMThe rumors I've been hearing make it sound like something NOT Ni No Kuni. Kagari also said something on NeoGAF that made it sound like it's not Dark Cloud 3. She could have also been trying to throw them off for guessing correctly but then again she could have just not said anything.
FRICKETY!  
Wait!  
It could be Dark Chronicle 2!  
Nah.  :P

ethomaz

I loved the game.

But it is too easy.

And boring to get Platinum.