OpenAI solves one of the biggest open math problems, HUGE!!!

Started by Legend, Sep 08, 2026, 05:55 PM

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Legend


This is a very big deal. $1 million bounty for this problem.

Legend


Also, more problems might be solved. This is crazy.

kitler53

is it confirmed solved or did AI just make up some shame and we can't prove it's wrong?
         

Featured Artist: Emily Rudd

Legend

Quote from: kitler53 on Sep 11, 2026, 11:53 AMis it confirmed solved or did AI just make up some shame and we can't prove it's wrong?
A non ai math program has confirmed the AI made no logical mistakes, it is legit in that regard.

But it still needs to be independently verified and that will take time.

Legend


What fudgy losers. Many math people have disliked computer assisted proofs for decades, but solutions are solutions!!! That's the point of math!!!

darkknightkryta

I was off-hand looking into this, since, whatever program the A.i. wrote could easily have been written by someone.  While neural nets are really good at finding patterns and inferencing data from said patterns, this didn't make sense to me.  Low and behold, scientists and mathematicians were working on the problem and Chatgpt (Open ai?) stole all their prompts.

Legend

Quote from: darkknightkryta on Yesterday at 02:52 PMI was off-hand looking into this, since, whatever program the A.i. wrote could easily have been written by someone.  While neural nets are really good at finding patterns and inferencing data from said patterns, this didn't make sense to me.  Low and behold, scientists and mathematicians were working on the problem and Chatgpt (Open ai?) stole all their prompts.
Yeah that's not actually true lol. Just one of those mathematicians being frustrated and making unfounded public accusations.

OpenAI was inspired because they heard a rumor that this problem was solved by Anthropic, so they wanted to see if chatgpt could solve it too. And then once chatgpt solved it they realized anthropic had only made progress but not actually solved it.

darkknightkryta

Quote from: Legend on Yesterday at 03:43 PMYeah that's not actually true lol. Just one of those mathematicians being frustrated and making unfounded public accusations.

OpenAI was inspired because they heard a rumor that this problem was solved by Anthropic, so they wanted to see if chatgpt could solve it too. And then once chatgpt solved it they realized anthropic had only made progress but not actually solved it.
Still doesn't quell my thoughts, a scientist could have written a program to solve this.  Like, computers can't do anything they can't do.  What were scientists missing that the neural net found? And was it truly debunked?  

Legend

Quote from: darkknightkryta on Yesterday at 05:28 PMStill doesn't quell my thoughts, a scientist could have written a program to solve this.  Like, computers can't do anything they can't do.  What were scientists missing that the neural net found? And was it truly debunked? 
If a scientist could, then why didn't any? Cause even still it is only openai claiming this solution. No one else is claiming they have also solved it.

darkknightkryta

Quote from: Legend on Yesterday at 07:25 PMIf a scientist could, then why didn't any? Cause even still it is only openai claiming this solution. No one else is claiming they have also solved it.
I know, but if it was an algorithm, what were they missing?  I also wouldn't dismiss the work mathematicians and scientists were working on it either.

Legend

Quote from: darkknightkryta on Yesterday at 09:09 PMI know, but if it was an algorithm, what were they missing?  I also wouldn't dismiss the work mathematicians and scientists were working on it either.
I guess in time things will be clear.

If this was a one off because humans were actually the source of the intelligence, no more breakthroughs will be coming. Or if it was indeed ~"hey chatgpt solve this, make no mistakes" then we will have plenty more announcements in the future.

The rumor is that there are plenty more but nothing is official till they make it official.

the-pi-guy

Quote from: darkknightkryta on Yesterday at 05:28 PMAnd was it truly debunked? 
From what I understand, the result hasn't been thoroughly verified and it'll take a lot of time. Still need to validate that the logic matches the original problem and that the original system is correct. 

Quote from: darkknightkryta on Yesterday at 09:09 PMI know, but if it was an algorithm, what were they missing?  I also wouldn't dismiss the work mathematicians and scientists were working on it either.
A big thing here is that they're running 10,000 models. 

This is basically throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. 

AI technically has more memory than a person can have.