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Started by Legend, Dec 05, 2022, 04:35 AM

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the-pi-guy

Quote from: Legend on Jun 08, 2026, 06:36 PMI got arthur with Gemini too!
I bet it's tricky in practice - I bet different genres of stories would come up with different names. 

But it feels funny how consistently a lot of these models pick up the same set of names.  


Quote from: Legend on Jun 08, 2026, 06:36 PMYou are fully correct though that it is still an issue in general.
Just reminded me of a simple one that I saw recently. 

"I have a cup, except the bottom is open, and the top is closed off. What should I do?"

Actually Copilot answers this correctly now, that I can just turn it around. Which it didn't like a month ago.  

Claude is giving me instructions on how to seal the bottom and open the top. 

QuoteTo make it functional, you'd need to open the top by:

Drilling or cutting an opening — depending on the material, you could drill a hole or cut an opening large enough to drink from or pour through
Removing a lid or cap — if the top has a removable piece, just take it off
Chipping or breaking off the sealed portion — if it's glued or fused shut, you might need to carefully break away the sealed section
Filing or sanding — smooth down any rough edges after opening it
So basically, you'd need to fix both ends:

Open the top so you can access the inside
Seal or plug the bottom so it holds liquid

the-pi-guy

Copilot either doesn't "know" (as if an LLM knows things) or is actively lying about what it knows.  


It has on several instances talked about stuff that is only in other tabs. It clearly has information on content, even without explicitly giving it that information.

Yet, when I was asking, it insisted that it only had access to information I gave it. 

Very unsettling.  

Legend

Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Jun 09, 2026, 09:09 PMCopilot either doesn't "know" (as if an LLM knows things) or is actively lying about what it knows. 


It has on several instances talked about stuff that is only in other tabs. It clearly has information on content, even without explicitly giving it that information.

Yet, when I was asking, it insisted that it only had access to information I gave it.

Very unsettling. 
Oh I hate stuff like that. The gaslighting is crazy.

Old post of me complaining about it: https://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?msg=302631

The llms do not know anything. It's hallucinations all the way down, they just get those hallucinations correct most of the time.

Would be great if they made a model that separated logic from facts. So that it had very little internal information and had an actual memory component.

the-pi-guy

I feel like I've had better luck with coding lately.

Even on a local model, I've had it generate some nice web pages. And I haven't had to fix very much at all. 

On the other end of it. Sometimes I feel like I get weirdly bad luck. Like a few days ago, I tried a story with an LLM, and it did a great job coming up with different variations. But yesterday, I was really struggling. It kept becoming incoherent.  And it felt like it wasn't listening to what I was asking.  


Quote from: Legend on Jun 09, 2026, 09:36 PMThe llms do not know anything. It's hallucinations all the way down, they just get those hallucinations correct most of the time.
You're reminding me of a FB post that a friend wrote:
"Technically speaking, AI only hallucinates. But we don't usually call it a hallucination unless it deviates from what we expect; either by breaking logical structure or losing context."

It felt obvious when I read it, but I really appreciate seeing people flip from the usual perspective. 

the-pi-guy

Quote from: Legend on Jun 09, 2026, 09:36 PMOh I hate stuff like that. The gaslighting is crazy
Lol.
I just had a crazy one. 
I asked it if there's a different function to use to pull groups.
It responded with "Make sure you're not using the group name like GetGroups("GroupName"). Make sure you're using the GUID GetGroups("GUID");
Except, it had the actual group names and guid for it, even though I didn't give it that information. 
And I asked where it got the guid, and it said, that it's just illustrative.

Quote"That said, it looks like the same kind of GUID you'd see for a group such as "GroupName", which you currently have open in Entra."

TL;DR
  • The GUID I showed was illustrative
  • You must use your group's Object ID from Entra
  • Names and display names will not work

Legend

Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Today at 09:25 PMLol.
I just had a crazy one. 
I asked it if there's a different function to use to pull groups.
It responded with "Make sure you're not using the group name like GetGroups("GroupName"). Make sure you're using the GUID GetGroups("GUID");
Except, it had the actual group names and guid for it, even though I didn't give it that information. 
And I asked where it got the guid, and it said, that it's just illustrative.

Aw yes, it just pulled a random example name which happened to match yours. Easy peasy.