General Politics Thread

[Legend]

I'm not sure why thanking the audience would mean it's not a Nazi salute. That seems pretty standard for one.

I would hope it wasn't the intent (and I think it's kind of weird that Fascists can "own" a gesture in the first place).

But plenty of people on the left and right, sure seem to view it as a Nazi salute.

Right-Wing Extremists Are Abuzz Over Musk's Straight-Arm Salute

Plenty of people think the Earth is flat lol.

You don't need any hope. It's literally not a nazi solute. Those don't include putting your hand on your heart.

Him thinking the audience is him saying "my heart goes out to you." I'd assume the gesture means his heart goes out to the audience...

[the-pi-guy]

Plenty of people think the Earth is flat lol.

You don't need any hope. It's literally not a nazi solute. Those don't include putting your hand on your heart.

Him thinking the audience is him saying "my heart goes out to you." I'd assume the gesture means his heart goes out to the audience...

It certainly can include that. 

Neo Nazi saluting

[Legend]

It certainly can include that.

Neo Nazi saluting

Guess neonazis are too dumb to even do it correct. I googled nazi videos to make sure I wasn't misremembering, but I didn't think to check neonazis.


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[BananaKing]

Yeah Elon is a nazi now. He is trying to subconsciously manipulate people so he can start the 4th Reich. But on Mars, with electric power vehicles and super fast internet. 

This is a non issue. 

[Legend]

Yeah Elon is a nazi now. He is trying to subconsciously manipulate people so he can start the 4th Reich. But on Mars, with electric power vehicles and super fast internet.

This is a non issue.

Well a little known fact, and this is 100% true, a very prominent Nazi from WW2 stated that "Elon" would be the leader of Mars.

(The Nazi stated it in 1953)

[nnodley]

Yeah Elon is a nazi now. He is trying to subconsciously manipulate people so he can start the 4th Reich. But on Mars, with electric power vehicles and super fast internet.

This is a non issue.

The mental gymnastics of people on social media trying so hard to make this be a nazi salute is staggering. 

[BananaKing]

The mental gymnastics of people on social media trying so hard to make this be a nazi salute is staggering.

It's crazy. Like just put a little logic into it, why on earth would he do that? 

[BananaKing]

Well a little known fact, and this is 100% true, a very prominent Nazi from WW2 stated that "Elon" would be the leader of Mars.

(The Nazi stated it in 1953)

Lmao... Man that's hilarious 😂😂  

[nnodley]

you know what. Now that trump thinks changing the gulf to Gulf of America, it will result in the next democrat president to probably just change it back to Gulf of Mexico.  Like holy shame are some of his executive orders the dumbest things I have ever seen.

[kitler53]

It's crazy. Like just put a little logic into it, why on earth would he do that?

maybe he did.  maybe he didn't.  it could be a mistake but it could also be a dog whistle.  the neo-nazis certainly aren't taking this as a mistake.  trump's campaign was filled with too many slogans and statements that reference old fascist materials for me to believe trump's not issuing dog whistles and elon has gotten quite cozy with him lately.

...and elon like literally endorsed the german political party made up from ex-nazis. 



i'm not sure what your "logic" is but from where i'm sitting i'd guess it runs along the lines of "everyone knows fascist are bad so of course no one could be fascist".      ...but that logic isn't logical.    fascism happened before.    fascists still exist today.  trump just gave a very fascist speech at his inauguration.

so like,.. maybe don't laugh it off?

and i know what you're going to say next.    elon said ,"blah blah blah" which proves whatever you want to believe.  liars lie.  trump did this at a campaign:



...but his actions in office were not supportive to LGBT. 



i guess we'll see what these guys actually do while in office soon.  i can just say that trump's pardon of the proud boys that violently tried to overthrow the last election is a pretty clear statement to me.

[kitler53]

you know what. Now that trump thinks changing the gulf to Gulf of America, it will result in the next democrat president to probably just change it back to Gulf of Mexico.  Like holy shame are some of his executive orders the dumbest things I have ever seen.

don't get distracted by the dumb ones.

pay attention to things like his executive order eliminating birthright citizenship.  that's enshrined in our constitution via the 14th amendment:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

if the conservative controlled government chooses to abandon the constitution when it is so clearly written out then you should fully expect trump to take a 3rd term in office.   despite the 22nd amendment clearly stating:

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

...trump's loyalists have already been pushing the "it doesn't apply because the terms were not consecutive" narrative.

[nnodley]

don't get distracted by the dumb ones.

pay attention to things like his executive order eliminating birthright citizenship.  that's enshrined in our constitution via the 14th amendment:

if the conservative controlled government chooses to abandon the constitution when it is so clearly written out then you should fully expect trump to take a 3rd term in office.  despite the 22nd amendment clearly stating:

...trump's loyalists have already been pushing the "it doesn't apply because the terms were not consecutive" narrative.

oh trust me they are going to try and push things as far as they can. I like to be optimistic that they won't try for a 3rd term, but you do never know.  Honestly the best thing to happen would be his cognitive decline to be as bad as biden or worse so people get off of him like he's the best thing to happen to humanity.  I don't always agree with some things on either side, but trump is mostly an idiot.

[Legend]

oh trust me they are going to try and push things as far as they can. I like to be optimistic that they won't try for a 3rd term, but you do never know.  Honestly the best thing to happen would be his cognitive decline to be as bad as biden or worse so people get off of him like he's the best thing to happen to humanity.  I don't always agree with some things on either side, but trump is mostly an idiot.

Will be interesting to see how old he acts by the end of it. Biden aged a ton over the past four years.

At his party the other day Trump went the wrong way off part of the stage and had to take a big step. I expected him to fall since he's so old, but he didn't. We were so close to having a Biden like gaff on his first day.

[kitler53]

oh trust me they are going to try and push things as far as they can. I like to be optimistic that they won't try for a 3rd term, but you do never know.  Honestly the best thing to happen would be his cognitive decline to be as bad as biden or worse so people get off of him like he's the best thing to happen to humanity.  I don't always agree with some things on either side, but trump is mostly an idiot.

i agree with that.   

as much as the world would be a better place with trump dead i was soo disappointed to learn about the assassination attempt.   don't turn this guy into a martyr.  the best way to defeat trumpism is for trump to be the guy to defeat it by being a horrible president.   i kind of honestly hope they guy actually follows though with 25% tariffs just because the ~25% inflation that follows would make everyone angry with him.

...i wish i could believe americans would be equally upset when trump uses the military to kill americans but i just doubt it.   in america,.. $10 for a dozen eggs is worse than mass murder.

[nnodley]

Will be interesting to see how old he acts by the end of it. Biden aged a ton over the past four years.

At his party the other day Trump went the wrong way off part of the stage and had to take a big step. I expected him to fall since he's so old, but he didn't. We were so close to having a Biden like gaff on his first day.

yeah he's definitely already starting to show some declines.  I mean he is freaking 78 years old. So he's as old as biden was at the start of his presidency. I really wish there was a maximum age limit on presidents.