General Politics Thread

[the-pi-guy]

That pretty much sums it up.

This was eye-opening.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 27, 2024

[kitler53]

I've said it before at least at home to IRL friends,.. maybe not here though.

Republicans don't know how to govern. 

They are great at pointing out grievances but they have no soulutions.  They campaigned for basically 8 years about hating obama care and when they had the opportunity to do something about it they had no idea what they wanted to do.

[the-pi-guy]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/laura-loomer-elon-musk-trump-maga-b2670603.html

"[Musk] has removed my blue check mark on X because I dared to question his support for H1B visas, the replacement of American tech workers by Indian immigrants," Laura Loomer tweeted Thursday.

[BananaKing]

conspiracy or just general frustration. 

elon invested 136 million into electing trump if i remember the number correctly.  i use invested on purpose because although i don't have any particular number in front of me elon's net worth has already inflated by waaaay more than that just in tesla's stock run.  ...and the stock is running because of the quid-pro-quo that tesla is expected to get in exchange for electing trump.

imo this is corruption in plain view.  it makes me mad a hell.

But this isn't exclusive to Elon and trump? Companies and people have always bought politicians in the USA. Each single president had companies backing them. How much does the NRA, telecommunications companies, banks, pharmaceuticals pay to support politicians?

I agree, it's corruption, and it should be infuriating, but what's so different here? And why does this matter more than other causes of corruption that have a more drastic effect on people's lives?

[kitler53]

But this isn't exclusive to Elon and trump? Companies and people have always bought politicians in the USA. Each single president had companies backing them. How much does the NRA, telecommunications companies, banks, pharmaceuticals pay to support politicians?

I agree, it's corruption, and it should be infuriating, but what's so different here? And why does this matter more than other causes of corruption that have a more drastic effect on people's lives?

So i reread my post and taking in my prior post history let me clarify. 

I'm not mad at elon vs other players in our current political environment. 

I'm using elon as an example of why i'm mad at the current political environment. 

50 years ago if someone told a politician what they wanted and then gave them money it would be a crime.  These days corps are very openly funding campains and super pacs and then very openly saying what they want on social media and somehow that's okay. 

Its infuriating. 

[the-pi-guy]

[the-pi-guy]

The “contemptible fools” I’m referring to are those in the Republican Party who are hateful, unrepentant racists.

They will absolutely be the downfall of the Republican Party if they are not removed.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 28, 2024

[Legend]

I've seen the Elon side of this since he's always been pro immigration and even Trump's victory speech talked about increasing legal immigration.

How did so many people get blindsided by this? Who even are the people in power against this?

[kitler53]

I've seen the Elon side of this since he's always been pro immigration and even Trump's victory speech talked about increasing legal immigration.

How did so many people get blindsided by this? Who even are the people in power against this

trump ran on a platform of mass deportation using extremely racist and violent language.   who even are the people surprised that trump's voting base hates immigrants??

like seriously?!?    why is literally every other politician (both left and right) held in extreme suspicious of all the bad things they are going to do but when trump literally says the worst things in the world people are all like,. "oh, it's just words.  he doesn't mean any of it."

[the-pi-guy]

I've seen the Elon side of this since he's always been pro immigration and even Trump's victory speech talked about increasing legal immigration.

How did so many people get blindsided by this? Who even are the people in power against this?

A combination of people being selective about what stuff means and not being aware of stuff being said in the first place.

[the-pi-guy]

America should liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 6, 2025

[Legend]

I saw a meme a while ago that joked that the Greenland, Canda, and Panama talk was just to distract people, that what we'd actually claim was England.

Maybe that person was on to something...

[the-pi-guy]

Um 

[Legend]

Um

pic.twitter.com/hH6i7xYy60

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 20, 2025

Obviously not a nazi solute lol. He's thanking the audience.

[the-pi-guy]

pic.twitter.com/hH6i7xYy60

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 20, 2025

Obviously not a nazi solute lol. He's thanking the audience.

I'm not sure why thanking the audience would mean it's not a Nazi salute. That seems pretty standard for one.

I would hope it wasn't the intent (and I think it's kind of weird that Fascists can "own" a gesture in the first place).

But plenty of people on the left and right, sure seem to view it as a Nazi salute.

Right-Wing Extremists Are Abuzz Over Musk's Straight-Arm Salute


He apparently took out the part where he's facing the audience.