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[nnodley]

Lol so now spencer is the greatest because he takes on the tough interviews unlike jim ryan. What a take to still find a way to make it all about console wars.  

According to the cess pool of Twitter. Lol

[kitler53]

Lol so now spencer is the greatest because he takes on the tough interviews unlike jim ryan. What a take to still find a way to make it all about console wars.  

According to the cess pool of Twitter. Lol

yeah!  lt sucks so much that Jim has lead ps so well there has never been an opportunity to have taken on a tough interview like Spencer does all the time.  

/s

[the-pi-guy]

[BananaKing]

Wtf is with this mentality that "we cant win". No, you just suck MS. I've been saying it for years, Phil is just incompetent and can't run a first party publishing team. He has been at it for 3 generations now.

They don't have a culture at their first party publishing unit, they dont have consistency, and rarely do they have quality.

They arent competing because they keep making mistakes. Not because its "unfair".

[the-pi-guy]

Wtf is with this mentality that "we cant win". No, you just suck MS. I've been saying it for years, Phil is just incompetent and can't run a first party publishing team. He has been at it for 3 generations now.

They don't have a culture at their first party publishing unit, they dont have consistency, and rarely do they have quality.

They arent competing because they keep making mistakes. Not because its "unfair".

Did they say it's "unfair"?

[BananaKing]

Did they say it's "unfair"?

It surely feels like thats the sentiment coming from them. Specially after the CMA blocked the Activision deal

[the-pi-guy]

It surely feels like thats the sentiment coming from them. Specially after the CMA blocked the Activision deal

I may have missed some bits, but that's not particularly the message that I see Phil Spencer giving in that interview. Some of the other stuff, definitely tilts in that direction.

He's talking a lot about MS's failures.
- They messed up with Redfall. They're working to make some fixes.
- Even implied that Redfall wasn't worth $70
- They messed up with Xbox One, and lost a lot of momentum.


And he says "we're not going outconsole Nintendo and Sony".

Kyle Bosman: "I was shocked to discover it was in fact, Phil Spencer sitting there for 30 minutes willfully eating shame."

[kitler53]

Wtf is with this mentality that "we cant win". No, you just suck MS. I've been saying it for years, Phil is just incompetent and can't run a first party publishing team. He has been at it for 3 generations now.

They don't have a culture at their first party publishing unit, they dont have consistency, and rarely do they have quality.

They arent competing because they keep making mistakes. Not because its "unfair".

honestly, i think it just comes down to culture.

sony had been in the business of movies since before entering gaming.   they've had a long time to understand how to manage "creative types".    MS's core is to make productivity software and they seem to manage that business well.  ...but i don't think you can have the same management style/processes for productivity software that you do for creative projects.   

maybe one of these days MS will figure it out but i think that need to cleave off xbox to make it work.  that doesn't have to mean selling xbox just making it it's own thing.   my company figured that out early thank goodness.   like 90% of my business makes hardware and it only took management about a year to figure out that the things they do to manage hardware successfully won't work for software.   now (via reverse merger) the software business is it's own independent company that is simply owned my my original parent company. 

MS needs to do something similar with xbox. 

Did they say it's "unfair"?

not sure if they used that specific word but it is the implication.    Satya Nadella specifically said:

https://gameluster.com/microsoft-ceo-tells-sony-let-us-have-competition/
"if this is about competition, let us have competition"

it's in reference to ABK acquisition and it's a not so subtle statement that MS can only compete in this market if they are allowed to acquire the biggest 3rd party publishers in gaming.   ...or that it is not possible for MS to compete in the current market.  it's a statement that heavily relies on a thought that MS has never done nothing wrong with their xbox brand and all of their lack of success is to be blamed on Sony.

[darkknightkryta]

It goes back to the core of X-box.  I'm talking right from the beginning when the only reason it exists is because a bunch of execs tricked Gates into thinking Sony was going to take over the PC space with the PS2.  The entire division was created to destroy Sony.  Not created to advance their Direct X libraries.  Not created to push Windows as a gaming platform giving regular folk a reason to invest in Windows.  No, it was created because the only way it was going to happen was for some execs to say to Gates "Oh, what about Sony?".  While Apple went and stole their T.V. (Bonus to anyone who gets the reference).  The original Xbox didn't even ship with Windows as an OS.  I say that meaning; their OS wasn't built off of Windows.  So instead of creating a platform for their core business, they created a business to destroy competition.  Which is what Microsoft does.  Other than Internet Explorer, that doesn't exactly work out well for them (Bing, Zune, Window Mobile, etc).  All because the upper management at Microsoft are greedy, vengeful, assholes (Bing is an 8 billion dollar vendetta against Google by Balmer).

[Legend]

It goes back to the core of X-box.  I'm talking right from the beginning when the only reason it exists is because a bunch of execs tricked Gates into thinking Sony was going to take over the PC space with the PS2.  The entire division was created to destroy Sony.  Not created to advance their Direct X libraries.  Not created to push Windows as a gaming platform giving regular folk a reason to invest in Windows.  No, it was created because the only way it was going to happen was for some execs to say to Gates "Oh, what about Sony?".  While Apple went and stole their T.V. (Bonus to anyone who gets the reference).  The original Xbox didn't even ship with Windows as an OS.  I say that meaning; their OS wasn't built off of Windows.  So instead of creating a platform for their core business, they created a business to destroy competition.  Which is what Microsoft does.  Other than Internet Explorer, that doesn't exactly work out well for them (Bing, Zune, Window Mobile, etc).  All because the upper management at Microsoft are greedy, vengeful, assholes (Bing is an 8 billion dollar vendetta against Google by Balmer).

PlayStation was the exact same. They wanted to destroy Nintendo after being embarrassed with the disc drive deal.

[SWORDF1SH]

PlayStation was the exact same. They wanted to destroy Nintendo after being embarrassed with the disc drive deal.

At least Sony had a reason. Nintendo screwed Sony over and made Kutaragi mad.

[darkknightkryta]

At least Sony had a reason. Nintendo screwed Sony over and made Kutaragi mad.

@Legend I had your thoughts, but as Swordf1sh just put it, Nintendo screwed over Sony.  Kuturagi was more than happy to build out hardware for Nintendo and work with them.  Microsoft went apeshit cause Sony "said" they were going to put in the ability to use real player codecs...

[BananaKing]

Kutaragi also wanted to get into the video games business. Its not like the whole thing started out of spite.

Man, did Nintendo screw themselves over with that one

[SWORDF1SH]

Yeah and I don't think Sony ever had the intention to "destroy" Nintendo. More of "I'll show you" attitude. Sony have a different philosophy that a market is more healthier with competitive competition. At least I've heard them say that at some point. Could just be PR. MS philosophy is destroy competition so they own the market.
Hell, Sony could of finished Xbox last gen if they wanted to. But they stayed focused on profitability instead of destroying Xbox.  The other way around in MS's hands and PlayStation might not be here today.

[the-pi-guy]

Seems like a thorough Xbox post