Twitter now owned by xAI - company founded by Elon Musk

[the-pi-guy]

is birdwatch a competitor to Twitter?

No it's a feature of Twitter to fight misinformation.

[Legend]

is birdwatch a competitor to Twitter?

It's an info box on twitter to fact check/add context. You can see it on Musk's tweet in my post.

[the-pi-guy]

Can also confirm @CaseyNewton’s good scoop: some people who were fired from Twitter are now being asked to come back. Some were laid off by mistake, others the company now realizes they may need…oops! w/@EdLudlow https://t.co/A00r93taSa

— Kurt Wagner (@KurtWagner8) November 6, 2022

[kitler53]

twitter becoming more of a dumpster fire every day and tesla is dumping pretty hard compared to the market right now.  i don't see any particular catalyst for the dump other than musk looking increasingly incompetent.  

[the-pi-guy]

Gee, I wonder why the screen is so dirty …

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 7, 2022

He deleted the tweet.

[SWORDF1SH]

@kitler why not wait until he implements the changes and judge it a year down the line instead of these knee jerk reactions. Personally I like a bigger focus on the community judging what's posted.
People who hate Elon have been taking things out of context and making it sound like "free speech" all of a sudden also means "hate speech" when I think he's made it clear it's more about left leaning and right leaning having a voice and should be able to talk about and challenge others people's opinions. That doesn't mean the far left and far right should take over the platform with hate but the left leaning politics have taken control of twitter for to long. Let there be more balance. Twitter is already a dumpster fire, let's not pretend all of a sudden Elon is destroying Twitter when he's trying to bring balance. Of course the left will hate this

[Legend]

Gee, I wonder why the screen is so dirty …

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 7, 2022

He deleted the tweet.

The forum saved the text, but what was the context?

[the-pi-guy]

The forum saved the text, but what was the context?

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Gee, I wonder why the screen is so dirty ...

[the-pi-guy]

Of course the left will hate this

So why is Kitler expected to give Elon Musk the benefit of the doubt, when you're not giving any left-wingers the benefit of the doubt?

People who hate Elon have been taking things out of context and making it sound like "free speech" all of a sudden also means "hate speech" when I think he's made it clear it's more about left leaning and right leaning having a voice and should be able to talk about and challenge others people's opinions. That doesn't mean the far left and far right should take over the platform with hate but the left leaning politics have taken control of twitter for to long. Let there be more balance. Twitter is already a dumpster fire, let's not pretend all of a sudden Elon is destroying Twitter when he's trying to bring balance. Of course the left will hate this

Because a lot of people disagree with what the issues are. (heck we can't even agree with what "left wingers" and "right wingers" are)

Of course if you feel that Twitter is banning people for being conservative, then it sounds great when someone says "we need more free speech".
On the other hand, if you think that Twitter currently allows anything except for hate speech (or otherwise problematic speech), then someone coming in and saying "well we need more free speech", that sounds pretty concerning.


In the past few days, Twitter has been restricting accounts that have been making fun of Elon, Elon has been blocking marketers that were working with him, tweeting out weird misinformation.  I don't think it's unreasonable to have some doubt in how Elon is navigating the company, and I don't think it's unreasonable to have doubts about his "free speech" promises. A lot of his business moves have been very knee-jerk reactions themselves.

BREAKING: @KathyGriffin has been permanently suspended from Twitter for impersonating @ElonMusk pic.twitter.com/ust86DZHKj

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) November 6, 2022

On a related note, it shouldn't be a surprise that Nintendo doesn't want to be part of a platform where a verified Super Mario has said the N-word:

Mama Mia Nigga

— Super Mario (@Clowfoe) November 6, 2022

[kitler53]

yeah, i'm just not going to respond and say to read Pi's post.   he said it much better than i would have.

[SWORDF1SH]

@Pi I mean Twitter is known for being a left leaning cesspool. Left leaning politics are more protected on Twitter. I'm somebody that sits close to the middle that agree with a lot views from the left and from the right although I'd say I'm more right leaning. From my experience the right get shut down more and I'm for there being a voice on both sides. That said, I'm not talking about the far right lunatics spreading hate but the far left also need their wings clipped. Twitter will ALWAYS be a shaming place but hopefully we can see a more even playing field. I stand by what I say when I feel the left are throwing a hissy fit because now some of the views will now be more challenged more without people challenging it fearing being banned and censored.

This isn't supporting hate speech and hate speech is not the free speech Elon is talking about. He even says this. Also the Kathy griffin account was banned because they were impersonating Elon Musk with labelling it as a spoof account. It is and has been a rule on Twitter for a while. Many accounts pretending to be celebrities have been suspended in the past for doing this.

[kitler53]

I mean Twitter is known for being a left leaning cesspool. Left leaning politics are more protected on Twitter.

[SWORDF1SH]

I'm not really surprised by your reaction tbh. You labelled half of your country terrible people because of a political stance.

[Legend]

I didn't think it was controversial for people to describe twitter as left leaning. Regardless of truth, that's a take I've seen for years from other left leaning people.

[the-pi-guy]

@Pi I mean Twitter is known for being a left leaning cesspool

Kind of what I was talking about before. (we can't even agree with what "left wingers" and "right wingers" are).

A lot of left wingers have different definitions of what left wing means, I literally was in a discussion with left wingers about that exact thing a few days ago.

A lot of people will say that Democrats are a center-right wing party, some will say they're actually a center-left party.


Personally I feel that "left wing" politics is fundamentally about ensuring that everyone has a voice.

I would say that there are also conservatives that aren't as pro-free speech as they claim to be.
r/conservative, despite proclaiming to be pro-free speech, is one of the most anti-free speech platforms I've seen on the internet.

This isn't supporting hate speech and hate speech is not the free speech Elon is talking about. He even says this. Also the Kathy griffin account was banned because they were impersonating Elon Musk with labelling it as a spoof account. It is and has been a rule on Twitter for a while. Many accounts pretending to be celebrities have been suspended in the past for doing this.

I know, but I would view Kathy Griffin changing her screen name as some of the less dangerous examples of free speech.

What kinds of free speech do you feel aren't allowed right now, that you're hoping will be?