Microsoft Buys Zenimax/ Bethesda for $7.5B

Started by Xevross, Sep 21, 2020, 01:03 PM

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the-pi-guy

#75
Sep 22, 2020, 07:23 AM

Xevross

#76
Sep 22, 2020, 11:46 AM
Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Sep 22, 2020, 02:35 AMThe biggest thing that MS gets from this is Bethesda's brand power with Elder Scrolls in particular. There are plenty of cheaper ways to build up a solid studio base of the quality and quantity but you can't really build an IP like TES.

I think with where ND, SSM, IG, GG, and PD to an extend, they can match almost all of this. If it were Zenimax minus BGS, i think it would still be Sonys court. But BGS tips the scale a bit.


There are so many ways things could go from here.

It's easy to assume this means that companies are going to get bought up like we have never seen before. But that might not be the case.  MS mainly wants to make Gamepass worth it as a service. Which who knows how far MS wants to go to prove that.  Considering how the past ~20 years have gone, I doubt MS would be confident enough to start spending 10's of billions on tons of acquisitions.  I don't think we will see anything on this scale any time soon.  (Though who knows). The industry is paying attention to them.  And again, it all depends on what MS is hoping financially for GP.  But I think right now they've established that GP has value.  EA + MS + BGS all under one service.  I'm sure they'll push for more deals like EA play. 

Part of me expects that MS will try pushing GP on PlayStation.  Phil Spencer originally promised the service would come to every platform, and then even when he "backed" down from idea.  It wasn't a total rejection. 
In this case, Bethesda is huge enough that Sony might need to start considering.  But who knows. 


I'm sure Sony is looking at ways to even things out again.  Could be a big acquisition, probably a few smaller acquisitions, or maybe they'll do a timed exclusive GTA or something big like that. 


Who knows.  Nothing on this scale has ever really happened before.  I don't think anyone really knows what will happen after this.  This whole story is just so out of left field, it's the kind of thing you dismiss as wild fanboy nonsense.  But here we are. 
I think that's all true, the IPs are the biggest part of this, however they bought over 2000 very talented employees all at once as well, that's almost as many as PS studios have an in total. They're going to put out more quality games a lot faster now, which is a big thing for game pass.

Basically this is a huge move that benefits game pass enormously, Schreier is right in what he said. Xbox probably want an absolute minimum of 50 million subs by the end of this generation and I think they will achieve that. Currently at a rate of over a million per month, boosted by lockdown but the more people get it it has a knock on effect of WOM and friends getting it. Like one of my friends got it a month ago and now 4 of us have it. I can't see many people dropping it once they've got it, it is fantastic and now with this news you know its going to get even better.

SWORDF1SH

#77
Sep 22, 2020, 12:29 PM
What's annoying is that Sony had an headstart over Games Pass with PS Now but blew it.

Games industry is a business and MS have hit an home run with the Bethesda deal. It's not a good sign for Sony that MS are now fully behind Xbox and willing to spend billions. Long term right now doesn't look good for PlayStation.

kitler53

#78
Sep 22, 2020, 01:16 PM
Quote from: Xevross on Sep 22, 2020, 11:46 AMI think that's all true, the IPs are the biggest part of this, however they bought over 2000 very talented employees all at once as well, that's almost as many as PS studios have an in total. They're going to put out more quality games a lot faster now, which is a big thing for game pass.

Basically this is a huge move that benefits game pass enormously, Schreier is right in what he said. Xbox probably want an absolute minimum of 50 million subs by the end of this generation and I think they will achieve that. Currently at a rate of over a million per month, boosted by lockdown but the more people get it it has a knock on effect of WOM and friends getting it. Like one of my friends got it a month ago and now 4 of us have it. I can't see many people dropping it once they've got it, it is fantastic and now with this news you know its going to get even better.

a huge part of your happiness with the service is since last month you have +250 games to play.

wait until you are in the middle of playing a game and it leaves the service and you can't play it anymore.
wait until you realize for december, january, feburary you're still paying your sub and there are no new games.

too much of the service is old games.   once you catch up a bit you're going to realize real quick that the number of games added that you have any desire to play is less than the service charge you're paying and too many games you really want to play aren't coming to the service.   this service isn't $180 a year,.. it $180 a year on top of your typical yearly games budget..
         

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Legend

#79
Sep 22, 2020, 01:33 PM
Quote from: kitler53 on Sep 22, 2020, 01:16 PMa huge part of your happiness with the service is since last month you have +250 games to play.

wait until you are in the middle of playing a game and it leaves the service and you can't play it anymore.
wait until you realize for december, january, feburary you're still paying your sub and there are no new games.

too much of the service is old games.   once you catch up a bit you're going to realize real quick that the number of games added that you have any desire to play is less than the service charge you're paying and too many games you really want to play aren't coming to the service.   this service isn't $180 a year,.. it $180 a year on top of your typical yearly games budget..
That's where I'm at.

It's a great amazing deal for me only if I buy gamepass on an as needed basis. If I only pay for "holiday" months and when Microsoft launches a new big game, that's like $60 a year.

Xevross

#80
Sep 22, 2020, 02:00 PM
Quote from: kitler53 on Sep 22, 2020, 01:16 PMa huge part of your happiness with the service is since last month you have +250 games to play.

wait until you are in the middle of playing a game and it leaves the service and you can't play it anymore.
wait until you realize for december, january, feburary you're still paying your sub and there are no new games.

too much of the service is old games.   once you catch up a bit you're going to realize real quick that the number of games added that you have any desire to play is less than the service charge you're paying and too many games you really want to play aren't coming to the service.   this service isn't $180 a year,.. it $180 a year on top of your typical yearly games budget..
Yes I said this before, but I know what games I want to play and I know what games are from xbox and which are likely to leave, so I'm prioritising. I tend to play games til the end then don't go back to them so games leaving is fine by me. Currently they're adding 10 games a month and its not my only source of games or entertainment. I think even if I only play one new game on a month on it it will be worth it.

Also its already provided me a lot of fun on multiplayer games with my friends, games I would never have bothered playing before or where at least one of us wouldn't want to pay for it.

I think if there's at least 3 or 4 games a year that I would have bought anyway that I can play on it then its 100% worth it, considering the ability to try other games I might not have been sold on and extra multiplayer stuff.

the-pi-guy

#81
Sep 22, 2020, 07:05 PM

:facepalm:

DerNebel

#82
Sep 22, 2020, 07:14 PM
Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Sep 22, 2020, 07:05 PM
:facepalm:
Didn't think we'd move to "Microsoft is just helping the little guy here" this quickly. What a pathetic clown.

Legend

#83
Sep 22, 2020, 07:34 PM
It is really dumb but fanboys be fanboys.

At least publishing exclusives is viewed as a good thing again.

DerNebel

#84
Sep 22, 2020, 08:03 PM
Quote from: Legend on Sep 22, 2020, 07:34 PMIt is really dumb but fanboys be fanboys.

At least publishing exclusives is viewed as a good thing again.
Take a guess how many "Well PC" or "but Gamepass" type arguments I've been seeing around this acquisition since yesterday.

Don't believe Sony would be given the same treatment if they were to do something like this.

God I hate the state of this industry.

Xevross

#85
Sep 22, 2020, 08:09 PM
Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Sep 22, 2020, 07:05 PM
:facepalm:
God he really is an xbox fanboy isn't he.

DerNebel

#86
Sep 22, 2020, 08:32 PM
Oh and I see Era has already moved on to drooling over the next acquisition rumor.

I swear these people would be celebrating a Microsoft monopoly.

Legend

#87
Sep 22, 2020, 08:37 PM
Quote from: DerNebel on Sep 22, 2020, 08:03 PMTake a guess how many "Well PC" or "but Gamepass" type arguments I've been seeing around this acquisition since yesterday.

Don't believe Sony would be given the same treatment if they were to do something like this.

God I hate the state of this industry.
I've seen those a bunch too.

Just kids and kids at heart having playground talking points. Xbox, Steam, and PlayStation fanboys will always be hypocritical.

I don't think the state of the industry is too bad compared to years prior, but people are getting better at manufacturing momentum.

the-pi-guy

#88
Sep 22, 2020, 08:39 PM
Quote from: DerNebel on Sep 22, 2020, 08:32 PMOh and I see Era has already moved on to drooling over the next acquisition rumor.

I swear these people would be celebrating a Microsoft monopoly.
What you wouldn't be happy if they bought

*Checks notes*

Sega?  

Worse things I suppose.  

Supposedly they bought two other studios.
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