General Politics Thread

Started by the-pi-guy, Jun 08, 2017, 12:22 PM

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Xevross

Quote from: Mmm_fish_tacos on Nov 07, 2018, 03:25 AMRepublican kept the Senate. House looks to flip buy a small margin. We might have a balanced government. Im not sure the when was the last time that happened.
Seems like Dems are heading for around 230 house seats, pretty much the majority the GOP had before. I think its the first half of Obama's presidency that you had government balanced like this.

Mmm_fish_tacos

If the number is correct then they will have 5 less seats than the republicans did.

the-pi-guy


Kerotan


Xevross

Quote from: Kerotan on Nov 08, 2018, 10:20 AMhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/motherboard-'red-dead-redemption-2'-players-are-excited-to-attack-and-kill-feminists-in-the-game.79514/

Too right. Punching those annoying babies has always been one of the best features in rockstar games.
What the fudge? Have you even read what that thread is about?

Kerotan

Quote from: Xevross on Nov 08, 2018, 12:32 PMWhat the fudge? Have you even read what that thread is about?
I briefly skimmed through the thread. Why?

the-pi-guy

Quote from: Kerotan on Nov 08, 2018, 10:20 AMhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/motherboard-'red-dead-redemption-2'-players-are-excited-to-attack-and-kill-feminists-in-the-game.79514/

Too right. Punching those annoying babies has always been one of the best features in rockstar games.
I have to wonder why you put it in the politics thread.

"annoying babies"
In the game, the women are suffragettes trying to get the right to vote.   To call this comment degrading just doesn't cover it.
Additionally, it's a bit disturbing that you think punching annoying people is one of the best features in a game.  

I'm pretty sure a few people here would themselves feminists, so not the best comment to make.  

Quote from: Xevross on Nov 08, 2018, 12:32 PMWhat the fudge? Have you even read what that thread is about?
A part of me is impressed that a game allows someone to do that, and most of me is incredibly disturbed that someone did it.  

Quote from: Kerotan on Nov 08, 2018, 03:34 PMI briefly skimmed through the thread. Why?
Part of it is about a video where the guy roped a lady, pulled her across the road hanging by a rope, carried to a swamp and fed to an alligator.  

Xevross

Quote from: Kerotan on Nov 08, 2018, 03:34 PMI briefly skimmed through the thread. Why?
As Pi said, this person in the game is hardly just a feminist, they are a suffragette. Historically these women were incredible, they fought through so much oppression and hardship to win the right to vote for women. Calling them an annoying feminist is disrespectful at best.

In this particular case, this guy was finding as many different ways he could to kill this woman and posting all of them on youtube. Each time with a title of something like "KILLING ANNOYING FEMINIST BY HOG-TIE+TRAIN LOL", which is just despicable really. Youtube rightly banned him for it, yet he tried to defend himself by saying he's been badly treated by youtube because all he did was punch women and no one would bat an eye if it was a male NPC... I mean give me a break. Sounds like the guy is a total idiot and a massive crustard, good riddance to him.

Anyway, some media outlet comes out with the headline of gamers enjoy beating feminists, which is just completely overblown and is very much clickbait considering its just an article about this broad's videos. Whole thing is just a mess, but saying its a great feature to punch these annoying babies is just so off the mark. Sure, sometimes in games and especially R* games there are annoying characters, male and female, which you might enjoy beating up. This isn't one of those cases.

Kerotan

Who gives a fook if there's feminists here. You can do all these things in the game so there's no problem doing it. If it's a problem then the reviewers should slaughter it.

It's a game from rockstar. Gta, rdr it's not real life folks. I'd never punch an annoying feminist in real life but in rdr or gta? Oh I can't wait.

Btw i find it extremely disturbing you lot shoot and kill so many innocent people on rdr. Dispicable behaviour. Like these innocents are good men with family's and you kill them?

And when the online launches, surely you won't kill characters controlled by real people? Like these guys could represent little kids playing online. How could you possibly kill them?

the-pi-guy

Quote from: Kerotan on Nov 09, 2018, 02:30 AMWho gives a fook if there's feminists here. You can do all these things in the game so there's no problem doing it. If it's a problem then the reviewers should slaughter it.
Posting videos to get a rise out of feminists is the problem.

Quote from: Kerotan on Nov 09, 2018, 02:30 AMBtw i find it extremely disturbing you lot shoot and kill so many innocent people on rdr. Dispicable behaviour. Like these innocents are good men with family's and you kill them?

And when the online launches, surely you won't kill characters controlled by real people? Like these guys could represent little kids playing online. How could you possibly kill them?

Well personally, I don't kill people that are innocent in games.

Shoot a virtual person, big deal.  Male, female, whatever.
But if you're video taping torturing them, I feel different about that.  That starts to get creepy, in my view.

Xevross

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Quote from: Kerotan on Nov 09, 2018, 02:30 AMWho gives a fook if there's feminists here. You can do all these things in the game so there's no problem doing it. If it's a problem then the reviewers should slaughter it.

It's a game from rockstar. Gta, rdr it's not real life folks. I'd never punch an annoying feminist in real life but in rdr or gta? Oh I can't wait.

Btw i find it extremely disturbing you lot shoot and kill so many innocent people on rdr. Dispicable behaviour. Like these innocents are good men with family's and you kill them?

And when the online launches, surely you won't kill characters controlled by real people? Like these guys could represent little kids playing online. How could you possibly kill them?

There's a big difference between killing random NPCs without much thought and killing the same NPC over and over again in as many sadistic ways as possible to push an anti feminist agenda online.

Sure, I could understand just blasting the woman in the face because she annoyed you, sometimes I kill NPCs that have pissed me off in R* games to. But this really isn't that, it's much more serious and you should stop pretending otherwise.

Kerotan

Quote from: Xevross on Nov 09, 2018, 11:13 AMThere's a big difference between killing random NPCs without much thought and killing the same NPC over and over again in as many sadistic ways as possible to push an anti feminist agenda online.

Sure, I could understand just blasting the woman in the face because she annoyed you, sometimes I kill NPCs that have pissed me off in R* games to. But this really isn't that, it's much more serious and you should stop pretending otherwise.
First of all he's doing it to get YouTube views for money. It's obviously working as his channel blew up. Great business decision.

Secondly these things are all possible in a game. Not only that but other games focus on these very things. There are horror games out there that focus on horrible gruesome torture and there are games like hitman that let you replay a level over and over to try and kill the same people (not always deserving of death) in multiple different ways.

Sure on hitman last week there was some dude I had to kill and i drowned him the bowl of the toilet. You are over sensitive if this stuff triggers you.

"to push an anti feminist agenda online."

Who gives a fook if we annoy feminists. They are possible the most annoying group out there atm and deserve to be trolled. And this coming from a man who treats women with the utmost respect.

Xevross

Quote from: Kerotan on Nov 09, 2018, 03:24 PMFirst of all he's doing it to get YouTube views for money. It's obviously working as his channel blew up. Great business decision.

Secondly these things are all possible in a game. Not only that but other games focus on these very things. There are horror games out there that focus on horrible gruesome torture and there are games like hitman that let you replay a level over and over to try and kill the same people (not always deserving of death) in multiple different ways.

Sure on hitman last week there was some dude I had to kill and i drowned him the bowl of the toilet. You are over sensitive if this stuff triggers you.

"to push an anti feminist agenda online."

Who gives a fook if we annoy feminists. They are possible the most annoying group out there atm and deserve to be trolled. And this coming from a man who treats women with the utmost respect.
Yes you can always count on certain groups online to watch shame like that. His other videos since haven't gained any viewership, as people clearly aren't interested. Sure he did it for views, but he knew he was going to get those views from anti-feminists. He did it anyway, clearly he has no morals at best or is anti-feminist himself. His videos and his comments are only encouraging and empowering people who have abhorrent views about women.

Yes sure other games focus on killing people and games like Hitman are built around assassinations. But none of these games are making you kill historical figures like Suffragettes, if they did I'm sure there would be a huge outrage online.

Who the fudge said I'm triggered? I'm fine with killing in games in general, I'm not fine with targeting and effectively shitting on the suffragette movement, one of the most incredible movements in modern history. And anyway, other games and killing in games has nothing to do with what I'm saying and I've never once said that is what I have a problem with.

Every group has its extremists, most feminists are fairly normal people who just support equal rights for women. In any case, they do not deserve to be trolled and if you think so then you clearly don't treat women with upmost respect.

Kerotan

This is the biggest problem these days. People bringing their movements into games. That's fine but don't force it on everything. Especially not Rockstar games.

the-pi-guy

Quote from: Kerotan on Nov 09, 2018, 04:41 PMThis is the biggest problem these days. People bringing their movements into games. That's fine but don't force it on everything. Especially not Rockstar games.

It's not their movement.  
It's a historical movement.