Presidential Inauguration of Donald J. Trump 2017

Started by the-pi-guy, Jan 20, 2017, 09:07 PM

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Legend

Quote from: Xevross on Feb 15, 2017, 06:58 PMA bigger blow than letting Trump be President for four years?
I'd think so. It's not like Trump has unlimited power.
Quote from: Raven on Feb 15, 2017, 06:45 PMMore like a huge blow to the confidence in the Republican party. It would make Benghazi look like nothing and the worry about illegal immigrants supposedly voting wouldn't even be the topic of conversation anymore when talking about election ethics. It may actually help to force parties to be more transparent in their dealings while campaigning for any political position. Exposing a very real problem. That many people don't know who they're voting for. Not just out of willful ignorance, but because of shady dealings like that. Democracy has endured worse. Political parties, on the other hand, have to reform or die if "treason" starts becoming synonymous with their name. Republicans have needed to reform for a long time now. Too many crazies and backwards thinking morons have infested it. The far right. If Republicans shifted to a Center-Right party, they would dominate American politics.
I don't think it'd fall on the Republican party but the system as a whole. Both Democrats and Republicans fought against Trump at times and both are having lots of distrust at the moment.

Plus it'd just make things unstable. If Trump and Pence are impeached, that'd be the farthest down the line of succession we've ever needed.

Max King of the Wild

Quote from: ethomaz on Feb 15, 2017, 07:24 PMSo the news here in Brazil maybe is just these over dramatizes from there... makes sense.
Yeah, every day something happens the left yells IMPEACH! OMG HOW IS HE GETTING AWAY WITH THIS? When... All the allegation was, over the last day, is someone said something prematurely and was a blackmail risk due to that.

Aura7541

Quote from: ethomaz on Feb 15, 2017, 07:22 PMHere in Brazil all newspaper or TV news makes Trump to looks like a joke person with his actions lol

How the US population see him in the government???
All over the place.

- The Democrats obviously hate him.
- The establishment Republicans have already began to sour on Trump.
- The non-establishment right likes him.
- People not belonging in the above categories generally dislike Trump, but not to the level of the Democrats.

Raven

Quote from: Aura7541 on Feb 15, 2017, 07:33 PMAll over the place.

- The Democrats obviously hate him.
- The establishment Republicans have already began to sour on Trump.
- The non-establishment right likes him.
- People not belonging in the above categories generally dislike Trump, but not to the level of the Democrats.
Pretty much this. He is, in general, a disliked person and he's not off to a hot start. It's going to be a long 4-years for him until the next election. He's going to lose a lot more than win, unlike the persona he has tried to impress upon the people. Though, anyone expecting a sudden halt to his presidency, outside of assassination, is going to be very disappointed. No matter how bad these current allegations look, they alone are not going to be enough. A lot of other people around Trump will take the fall before he does. If Trump's presidency gets done in before his first term is up, it will be around 3 years of things building up. By then, it almost won't even matter because if things really are that bad, he'll likely be voted out by the next election anyways.

Max King of the Wild

Raven, you're working with alternative facts here. People were rallying behind the never trump campaign in droves. HOLY shame, there was even a candidate running on the platform that we can't allow trump to win so vote for him. Why spend so much time and money and effort on a candidate who you don't think had any real shots of winning?

Raven

Quote from: Max King of the Wild on Feb 15, 2017, 08:01 PMRaven, you're working with alternative facts here. People were rallying behind the never trump campaign in droves. HOLY shame, there was even a candidate running on the platform that we can't allow trump to win so vote for him. Why spend so much time and money and effort on a candidate who you don't think had any real shots of winning?

Sean Spicer... is that you?

Legend

Quote from: Raven on Feb 15, 2017, 08:22 PMSean Spicer... is that you?
On that subject, SNL has been on a roll lately.



Aura7541

Quote from: Max King of the Wild on Feb 15, 2017, 08:01 PMRaven, you're working with alternative facts here. People were rallying behind the never trump campaign in droves. HOLY shame, there was even a candidate running on the platform that we can't allow trump to win so vote for him. Why spend so much time and money and effort on a candidate who you don't think had any real shots of winning?

The rallying didn't really go in full force until after Trump won. During the presidential race, it was mostly "Look at him and laugh" and the Democrats were "Psh, Trump isn't going to win".


the-pi-guy

No one is saying no one paid attention to Trump before hand.  No one is saying that Trump received no opposition until after he won.  

In order to prove your viewpoint, you need to prove that the opposition was greater or equal beforehand.  Which citing examples doesn't do.  Even citing a million different examples doesn't prove your point unless you can quantify those examples in comparison to afterwards.  

Seeing as how millions of people only went on the streets to protest Trump only afterwards (which is a number we can quantify).  Millions of people across many different cities.  

Bernie is just one guy.  
Most of your examples aren't quantifiable.  
McMullin largely got his votes from one state, and he was hardly a factor in the election.  





Max King of the Wild

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Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Feb 15, 2017, 09:40 PMNo one is saying no one paid attention to Trump before hand.  No one is saying that Trump received no opposition until after he won.  

In order to prove your viewpoint, you need to prove that the opposition was greater or equal beforehand.  Which citing examples doesn't do.  Even citing a million different examples doesn't prove your point unless you can quantify those examples in comparison to afterwards.  

Seeing as how millions of people only went on the streets to protest Trump only afterwards (which is a number we can quantify).  Millions of people across many different cities.  

Bernie is just one guy.  
Most of your examples aren't quantifiable.  
McMullin largely got his votes from one state, and he was hardly a factor in the election.  





You must have trouble reading.

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Max King of the Wild

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Lol Pezus. Either he has trouble reading or is intentionally ignorant.

Inside the Protest That Stopped the Trump Rally - POLITICO Magazine

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