Super Street Fighter 5: Best fighting game ever! 5/10

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darkknightkryta

Quote from: DerNebel on Nov 24, 2016, 12:26 PMCapcom denied those, but yeah who knows.
That tweet was from July, and all it was was the director of Marvel 3 saying he's working on something else.  He's not the only director at Capcom ;o.  But realistically it's a long shot.  Marvel had to have come to them.  Though with Injustice 2 coming out, I think this would be the perfect opportunity for another Marvel.

Raven

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/street-fighter-5-to-be-supported-until-2020-or-so-/1100-6445731/?ftag=GSS-05-10aab8d&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5838832b04d30157aaf8c69e&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

Sounds like Capcom is going all-in on SFV. They're not backing away from support like some people thought they might. Seems they plan on supporting and adding onto the game over the next 4 years.


DerNebel

So the five other Season 2 characters are apparently really going to be completely new to the series? Geez, that's a dang bold move.

DerNebel


darkknightkryta


You know what I love about Street Fighter 5, and now season 2, it exposes all the scammers.  *Bohoo I can't easily win against new people*.  Yeah you're losing to tactics now.  Get gud.

"Nash got hit the hardest" no people caught on to your scams and Nash got exposed for being mid tier.  Right @Raven?

Fang got his damage output raised and his V-trigger improved.  Nerfed?

Wild shoryukens still work.  You just can't do them blindly, and you have to use meter now if you want to get invincibility.  This goes for all characters who have "wakeup dragon punches", Cammy, etc.  This gets rid of the scrub wake up DP.  

"Not a fan of paying money for cooler costume" okay, get fight money.  You can get 20k a month if you do the ridiculously easy challenges.

"I don't want to main Akuma", or you suck?  Akuma's frickin broken in this game.

"I haven't been able to find a main" = "I haven't been able to find counter picks or scammers".  Sounds like a balanced game to me.

DerNebel

Quote from: darkknightkryta on Jan 15, 2017, 12:59 AM

You know what I love about Street Fighter 5, and now season 2, it exposes all the scammers.  *Bohoo I can't easily win against new people*.  Yeah you're losing to tactics now.  Get gud.

"Nash got hit the hardest" no people caught on to your scams and Nash got exposed for being mid tier.  Right @Raven?

Fang got his damage output raised and his V-trigger improved.  Nerfed?

Wild shoryukens still work.  You just can't do them blindly, and you have to use meter now if you want to get invincibility.  This goes for all characters who have "wakeup dragon punches", Cammy, etc.  This gets rid of the scrub wake up DP.  

"Not a fan of paying money for cooler costume" okay, get fight money.  You can get 20k a month if you do the ridiculously easy challenges.

"I don't want to main Akuma", or you suck?  Akuma's frickin broken in this game.

"I haven't been able to find a main" = "I haven't been able to find counter picks or scammers".  Sounds like a balanced game to me.
Jesus, dude just stop.

Also there's literally just one costume per character that you can actually buy with FM, everything else is cash only.

darkknightkryta

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Quote from: DerNebel on Jan 15, 2017, 01:15 AMJesus, dude just stop.

Also there's literally just one costume per character that you can actually buy with FM, everything else is cash only.
Stop what?  Infiltration made his name by counter picking and scamming.  Guess what?  You can't counter pick or scam in Street Fighter 5.  He's complaining Akuma's regular costume is his alt that you don't need to pay money for.  So his complaints are invalid.  And why are you complaining?  You don't have the game, nor have you ever played it.

P.S. I posted this for @Raven to see so he'd get a laugh out of Infiltration's salty tears.

DerNebel

#608
Quote from: darkknightkryta on Jan 15, 2017, 01:20 AMStop what?  Infiltration made his name by counter picking and scamming.  Guess what?  You can't counter pick or scam in Street Fighter 5.  He's complaining Akuma's regular costume is his alt that you don't need to pay money for.  So his complaints are invalid.  And why are you complaining?  You don't have the game, nor have you ever played it.
Stop being a Capcom fanboy. I'm pretty sure Infiltration spent a teeny, tiny bit more time with Season 2 and Street Fighter V in general than you have, so I find it a bit rich that a random like you is accusing him of being nothing but a scammer that's complaining because he can't get easy wins anymore. Seriously don't you think that's a bit loaded of you?

And no he's complaining that Akumas nostalgia costume can only be bought with real cash, which is true.

I would have bought the game by now, but instead of improving the general game experience and properly addressing community problems Capcom apparently rather wants to release more paid costumes to milk the people they still have playing the game and I'm not interested in supporting that shame. So I'm complaining because people that act as if everything is just peachy with SFV and that just berate people if they criticize the game do nothing but work against Capcom actually improving the freaking thing.

darkknightkryta

#609
Quote from: DerNebel on Jan 15, 2017, 01:47 AMStop being a Capcom fanboy. I'm pretty sure Infiltration spent a teeny, tiny bit more time with Season 2 and Street Fighter V in general than you have, so I find it a bit rich that a random like you is accusing him of being nothing but a scammer that's complaining because he can't get easy wins anymore. Seriously don't you think that's a bit loaded of you?

And no he's complaining that Akumas nostalgia costume can only be bought with real cash, which is true.

I would have bought the game by now, but instead of improving the general game experience and properly addressing community problems Capcom apparently rather wants to release more paid costumes to milk the people they still have playing the game and I'm not interested in supporting that shame. So I'm complaining because people that act as if everything is just peachy with SFV and that just berate people if they criticize the game do nothing but work against Capcom actually improving the freaking thing.
And?  Have you watched Infiltration play?  You know what he does?  He counter picks.  The most boring pro match I ever watched was the semi finals at Evo last year with Infiltration because he counter picked with Chun Li and had no fudgy clue how to use her.  It looked like noobs were playing the game for the first time.  He was scamming with Charlie, now that he was found out "I don't know who to use" well no shame.  The game's balanced, there's no counter picking.  There's a tier list yeah, but anyone can beat anyone.  The only mistake they made was changing Laura's command grab priority.  That shame will always hit now.

The game is fine, or have you never played Street Fighter?  I have all but 2 Street Fighter games (The movie and Super Street Fighter 4 3D).  They're all barebones and this is the 4th most content filled game.  I bought the game fresh from Steam this past Christmas from the sale.  I put in 9 hours.  3 of which was playing with mods at settings, at most (probably 2).  One hour was maybe spent online in the PC version, if that.  That's 5 hours of just messing around with stories and survival.  That doesn't include the 4 hour story mode.  Oh yeah that's right, a story mode.  For comparison Uncharted 2's single player is only 7 hours and that's it (Game of last gen I might add).  The "only" thing that's missing is arcade mode.  Which you get by playing Survival or vs CPU (random).  Is arcade mode more easier to use?  Yes.  What else is wrong?  Everyone complaining about the balance because they suck and the game is balanced.  This isn't Marvel 2 or 3, or Third Strike, or Ultra that's broken as shame.  The people complaining about the core game are complaining because they're losing against newer players.  Good, you're not winning because you know how to do a combo better than someone else.  You're losing cause you're tactics suck.  Oh the network is terrible, go fix it.  The only problems I've ever had with my network is because my service provider only has shaming options for their modems and suck and doing NAT 2.  I have issues outside of Street Fighter, with voice chat and shareplay, etc because of this shaming modem/router I have.  My friend switched back to one of their old ones, and I bought a router.  No issues.  I even play against my friend who's in the UK right now.  We play the game fine and he's across the frickin ocean.  Maybe, just maybe, there's something wrong with your network.  Plus Street Fighter isn't the only game with network issues.  There will always be network issues.  "They don't punish cheaters" yeah, so don't a lot of many other games and they just implemented something to shame the cheaters.  "They charge too much for costumes" so does every other game, by that metric, don't buy Call of Duty, don't buy Uncharted, don't buy anything.  "I don't wanna pay money for fighters", well guess what?  Street Fighter 5 is the only recent fighting game that doesn't charge you for new characters.  "This should have been F2P", you know what else is free to play?  Dead or Alive, it's 100 fudgy dollars for the season pass.  For one!  There's 3 season passes.  But hey, only Street Fighter is wrong.  Or what about Guilty Gear charging you 60 fudgy dollars to an update?  I don't want to even turn on Xrd anymore because they released Revelator shortly after.  Yes you have to do a little bit of grinding to get characters, which is what I've been doing recently, because I want to.  If I didn't buy the extra stages or anything, I'd have more than enough fight money for all the characters, and Capcom implemented weekly challenges.  Right now you can get 10k fight money.  But hey, Street Fighter is the only one implementing these "shaming practices" right?  Not Activision, or EA, or Ubisoft, or Sony, or Microsoft, of fudgy Nintendo.  The same fudgy Nintendo that can do no wrong is charging you 15 fudgy dollars for 3 dollars of plastic and what would be 2 dollars of DLC.  Or better yet, they're charging you for fudgy cards at almost the same price as the plastic that does the same thing.  You don't wanna buy the extra DLC?  Don't, don't buy any DLC that's cosmetic for any other game that exists, which is all of them past the year 2010.  Hell Gears 3 has the DLC on the fudgy disc, but no one's complaining.  You're not playing, what's the best playing fighting game released (I haven't tried Tekken 7 yet), because you have a choice,. You have a fudgy choice, to not buy anything cosmetic.  I have a better suggestion, don't buy any game with "shaming" DLC.  I can assure you, you're not going to be playing much.

DerNebel

#610
Quote from: darkknightkryta on Jan 15, 2017, 03:54 AMAnd?  Have you watched Infiltration play?  You know what he does?  He counter picks.  The most boring pro match I ever watched was the semi finals at Evo last year with Infiltration because he counter picked with Chun Li and had no fudgy clue how to use her.  It looked like noobs were playing the game for the first time.  He was scamming with Charlie, now that he was found out "I don't know who to use" well no shame.  The game's balanced, there's no counter picking.  There's a tier list yeah, but anyone can beat anyone.  The only mistake they made was changing Laura's command grab priority.  That shame will always hit now.

The game is fine, or have you never played Street Fighter?  I have all but 2 Street Fighter games (The movie and Super Street Fighter 4 3D).  They're all barebones and this is the 4th most content filled game.  I bought the game fresh from Steam this past Christmas from the sale.  I put in 9 hours.  3 of which was playing with mods at settings, at most (probably 2).  One hour was maybe spent online in the PC version, if that.  That's 5 hours of just messing around with stories and survival.  That doesn't include the 4 hour story mode.  Oh yeah that's right, a story mode.  For comparison Uncharted 2's single player is only 7 hours and that's it (Game of last gen I might add).  The "only" thing that's missing is arcade mode.  Which you get by playing Survival or vs CPU (random).  Is arcade mode more easier to use?  Yes.  What else is wrong?  Everyone complaining about the balance because they suck and the game is balanced.  This isn't Marvel 2 or 3, or Third Strike, or Ultra that's broken as shame.  The people complaining about the core game are complaining because they're losing against newer players.  Good, you're not winning because you know how to do a combo better than someone else.  You're losing cause you're tactics suck.  Oh the network is terrible, go fix it.  The only problems I've ever had with my network is because my service provider only has shaming options for their modems and suck and doing NAT 2.  I have issues outside of Street Fighter, with voice chat and shareplay, etc because of this shaming modem/router I have.  My friend switched back to one of their old ones, and I bought a router.  No issues.  I even play against my friend who's in the UK right now.  We play the game fine and he's across the frickin ocean.  Maybe, just maybe, there's something wrong with your network.  Plus Street Fighter isn't the only game with network issues.  There will always be network issues.  "They don't punish cheaters" yeah, so don't a lot of many other games and they just implemented something to shame the cheaters.  "They charge too much for costumes" so does every other game, by that metric, don't buy Call of Duty, don't buy Uncharted, don't buy anything.  "I don't wanna pay money for fighters", well guess what?  Street Fighter 5 is the only recent fighting game that doesn't charge you for new characters.  "This should have been F2P", you know what else is free to play?  Dead or Alive, it's 100 fudgy dollars for the season pass.  For one!  There's 3 season passes.  But hey, only Street Fighter is wrong.  Or what about Guilty Gear charging you 60 fudgy dollars to an update?  I don't want to even turn on Xrd anymore because they released Revelator shortly after.  Yes you have to do a little bit of grinding to get characters, which is what I've been doing recently, because I want to.  If I didn't buy the extra stages or anything, I'd have more than enough fight money for all the characters, and Capcom implemented weekly challenges.  Right now you can get 10k fight money.  But hey, Street Fighter is the only one implementing these "shaming practices" right?  Not Activision, or EA, or Ubisoft, or Sony, or Microsoft, of fudgy Nintendo.  The same fudgy Nintendo that can do no wrong is charging you 15 fudgy dollars for 3 dollars of plastic and what would be 2 dollars of DLC.  Or better yet, they're charging you for fudgy cards at almost the same price as the plastic that does the same thing.  You don't wanna buy the extra DLC?  Don't, don't buy any DLC that's cosmetic for any other game that exists, which is all of them past the year 2010.  Hell Gears 3 has the DLC on the fudgy disc, but no one's complaining.  You're not playing, what's the best playing fighting game released (I haven't tried Tekken 7 yet), because you have a choice,. You have a fudgy choice, to not buy anything cosmetic.  I have a better suggestion, don't buy any game with "shaming" DLC.  I can assure you, you're not going to be playing much.
Here's a suggestion, take a step back, wait a couple hours and then read what you've just posted again, cause this right there is an utterly and absolutely absurd rant, full of childish deflections to other companies, as if these make Capcoms practices any better or as if they were defended by me or as if they are just happily accepted by everyone (if you think the DLC practices in other games haven't been decried by people then you're completely mistaken) and completely bogus comparisons like the Uncharted 2 one. Not only is the UC2 campaign more in the 10 hour range it also is of a significantly higher quality than what the forgettable mess of SFV's story mode was. And what do you mean by "that's it"? Surely you don't mean that that was everything that Uncharted 2 had, cause that would be patently false, since the game also came with 2 Coop and like 8 competitive MP modes.

And before you reply (if you even choose to do that, we could just end this here, cause I don't see this going anywhere) you can take a look at some of the things the community has been asking for for almost a year now that still haven't been adressed.

Reminder that with Season 2, Capcom hasn't still addressed the following : StreetFighter

I'm not not buying SFV because of it's shaming cosmetic DLC, though that certainly doesn't help, I'm not buying it because Capcom has been absolutely awful in adressing these types of things and are constantly prioritizing adding more paid cosmetic stuff over actually fixing issues like the load times for instance.

Raven

At the very least, I agree with Kryta in regards to Infiltration, his actual skill, and his crying about the game now. He's not an upper level pro player like everyone made him out to be. He started becoming vocal about his dislikes of SF5 when he started losing tournaments long before the Season 2 changes happened. He became incredibly bitter and salty the moment he got eliminated right off the bat in the Capcom Cup. When people realized what his play style was, that he buckles under good offensive pressure, and loses nearly every time he fails to land his super move, he started getting squashed.

If it was someone like Knuckledu or Ricki Ortiz or Tokido saying this, which they may or may not have already, I would be much more open to hearing it. This guy was whining about the game when his star started falling and now the character he used because of a super that is easy to catch someone with, a V-Trigger that is basically a "get out of jail free" card, and plenty of tools to zone and anti-air, with no real weaknesses elsewhere, has now been nerfed and brought more in line with other characters.

Yes, I think Capcom has gone overboard with cosmetic items that you can't even get with fight money. Which is the opposite of the impression they gave us early on. Yes, I think the frame delay needs to be lowered even further. Practically every pro player has insisted on this. Yes, I think Capcom needs to do some serious work on its netcode. Not because it constantly sucks, rather, because at times when it does end up sucking it sucks HARD. All of these things I agree with and Capcom has been a disappointment in how they've handled it all up to this point. When it comes to the character adjustments though, he's one of many people who were using broken or near-broken characters to cheese and rack up victories. Now those characters aren't as powerful as they were, his favorite is one of them, and he doesn't like it. So now he's going to shame on Capcom for the adjustments they made.

I'm not saying he couldn't beat my dog in a match. He would. However, his skill relative to other pro players got exposed in the second half of the year and his demeanor went from smug confidence to bitter realization. The realization that he's not the king of SF5 and South Korea is no longer being looked at as possibly the country to beat anymore. Especially since his two South Korean partners have also been struggling as of late. I won't defend Capcom on some of the things they've done or haven't done yet but I have no problem pointing out that Infiltration has been salty as fudge after the second half of the tournament season went downhill for him and he got his dog beat at CC.

darkknightkryta

Quote from: DerNebel on Jan 15, 2017, 05:01 AMHere's a suggestion, take a step back, wait a couple hours and then read what you've just posted again, cause this right there is an utterly and absolutely absurd rant, full of childish deflections to other companies, as if these make Capcoms practices any better or as if they were defended by me or as if they are just happily accepted by everyone (if you think the DLC practices in other games haven't been decried by people then you're completely mistaken) and completely bogus comparisons like the Uncharted 2 one. Not only is the UC2 campaign more in the 10 hour range it also is of a significantly higher quality than what the forgettable mess of SFV's story mode was. And what do you mean by "that's it"? Surely you don't mean that that was everything that Uncharted 2 had, cause that would be patently false, since the game also came with 2 Coop and like 8 competitive MP modes.

And before you reply (if you even choose to do that, we could just end this here, cause I don't see this going anywhere) you can take a look at some of the things the community has been asking for for almost a year now that still haven't been adressed.

Reminder that with Season 2, Capcom hasn't still addressed the following : StreetFighter

I'm not not buying SFV because of it's shaming cosmetic DLC, though that certainly doesn't help, I'm not buying it because Capcom has been absolutely awful in adressing these types of things and are constantly prioritizing adding more paid cosmetic stuff over actually fixing issues like the load times for instance.
Player 2 still can't rematch or go back to Character Select screen. This is the only fighting game out there to have players do a thumbs up gesture to confirm a rematch
I honestly don't know what they're complaining about here.  You can go back to the character select screen after matches if you set it.  You have a choice to rematch if you want.  If they're complaining that you can't go back to the character select screen after accepting a match, well, I don't know what fighting game does that outside of a lobby.  You can bring up the character select screen in the lobby, you can do it in local coop

The loading times are still awfully long. ~25 seconds offline, up to 50 seconds online. There's nothing in SFV that requires so much processing power that makes the loading screens this long.
Which loading are they talking about?  When the game first loads?  Yeah that takes time, it tries to connect to the server, once it does it sets up your game.  That takes 50 seconds and rightfully so, there's no "fix the load time" for this.  Go play Dragon Age Inquisition and see how long that takes, it does the same thing.  The 25 seconds offline is the amount of time it takes to time out the connection (This is actually worse in Dragon Age).  They can change that time I guess.  Loading between matches take about 5 seconds, and takes about 5 seconds after a match.  Again, that lag is because it's talking to the servers.  It's pretty fast if you time out and are offline

Regional (for Lounges) and League based (for Casual and Ranked) matchmaking filters have not been ever implemented. What if I don't want to be limited to my region only?
This is an issue, but I'm not sure how many games actually give you the option to filter between regions, in the way they're making it out to be.  You had a check mark in Street FIghter 4 to let you go out to other regions, but you could never specify.  Game doesn't have leagues either, so I don't know what that second half is complaining about.  Would be nice, but you're not buying a game because you can't let a guy in Africa search for you? (You can play cross regional BTW as I've played my friend in the UK)

The netcode is still very much hit or miss. You can get a 5-bar connection but have rollbacks. Or you can have a 3-bar connection but be perfectly fine. The game should also tell you the delay to your opponent in milliseconds prior to accepting a match via fight request
This isn't a fixable issue.  There also aren't any fighting games (Or games I know of) that gives you ping delays.  Street Fighter 4 has never had this.  Also to my point before, most issues I've had with online had to do with my router issue, which is fixed.  People complaining, may want to reset their router, or go out and buy one.  Something happened between PS3 and PS4, cause I have a lot of issues connecting to chats on PS4 (Pre router purchase) vs PS3.  I've gotten lag, but you're going to get lag for any game.  I'm not sure what Capcom can do more.  Hell everytime I watch people play on twitch they don't have any issues at all.  Letting people find them, or playing.  Even when I was playing in online tournaments, the only issue we had, on the local end of one of the players.  He had to disqualify the player and move on to two others since only his game was causing lag.

The battle lounge search is still broken. Connection quality and the opponent flags still don't show up, even after multiple search refreshes. The battle lounges themselves can also be improved with actual text chat, voice chat, and having multiple matches at the same time. Other games do it, no excuse for SFV not to
I can't comment on this, cause I've only ever searched for a battle lounge once, which ironically was in the UK (Can't search outside of regions?)  I was about to talk about the chat here, but then I remembered you can specify in your PS4 to prioritize your chat.  I haven't tried setting it to game and see what happens in the lounge.  I'll assume it doesn't work though.  If not, yeah it's shaming, but this is why you're not buying Street Fighter 5?

Survival Mode is a waste of time and nerves. KOFXIV has multiple colors unlocked right off the bat (and is adding more). GGXrd unlocks additional colors for you after completing the Episode and Arcade modes (as well as more can be unlocked via Fishing). SFV requires you either to spend several hours of a shaming grind, or pay up in Fight Money/Real Money to unlock the colors immediately. And no, Season Pass is not the solution
You know what I remember?  Street Fighter 2 not having the ability to have mirror matches because there was only one colour.  Yes it's shaming and no Survival Mode isn't a waste of time.  I mean, add a second round and auto health regen, and guess what Survival Mode turns into?  Arcade Mode  :D .  Is arcade mode a waste?  Though I agree with Survival outside of "normal" is a pain.  But I don't plan to ever go past normal.

Speaking of which, the game still doesn't have an an Arcade mode. 10 months in, and Capcom only gave promises acknowledged a missing piece of content that should've been there from Day-1. Also where's that Extra Battle Mode that's been talked about back in February?
As I've been sayng at launch, Arcade Mode got turned into Survival Mode + Story Mode.  Is it as good as arcade mode?  No, but then again, it's pretty asinine to complain about Survival Mode then praise an Arcade Mode for same reason (I can play against 10 people in arcade, yay vs I have to play characters 10 times in a row?  Dafuq?).  P.S. they added that extra Battle Mode.  You can use that too if you want.  Just adds the extra step of going back to character select screen and selecting random for a new opponent.  They also added that story mode people have been complaining about not having.  Even then they baby and complain about it.

The game still doesn't automatically save your Training and Matchmaking preferences. I don't have to be required to spend some additional time after the initial game launch to set up who I want to be matched up against
Match making preference is an issue, as I have to set it every time I log in.  That's an issue.  Training issue though?  I've never played a fighting game that saves my training preference.

The PC version still doesn't have an ability to rebind keyboard buttons, as well as certain routers and WACOM tablets cause issues with the game, from not available networking to game crashing
There are also PC games that don't let me use a gamepad, do I rage and not buy the game?  But, that's the "joys" of PC gaming.  Use an external program the way I have to to rebind keyboard to controller.

So now that I addressed most of these asinine issues.  The biggest one that bugs me is arcade mode and colours.  Arcade mode I pointed out is still in the game, just broken up into two (three) modes.  Though I remember reading about Street Fighter 5 possibly going to arcades with King of Fighters 14, so we'll see what happens with that.
.  The colour issue has been easy to fix if you're patient enough to do the weekly challenges, which is why I'm going through normal survivor right now.  Though I'm using survival as filler until I get a fight request (Yeah, not having my options set to accept by default is lame, but not a game breaker).

So what's your issue for not buying the game?  Online works, it works well.  ALL games lag.  The consistency, I personally believe, is blown out of propotion ( @Raven this goes to your comment too).  As after fixing my local network I haven't had any issues connecting, and let me tell you, I couldn't connect to anyone in the country.  Connecting to UK was fine for some bizarre reason.  You salty there's no arcade mode?  Sure, but there's survival, character story, and a full blown story mode.  You can easily put in 15 hours of local play only, assuming you get fed up with survival, if not the game lasts as long as you want and not too many games can say that.  For comparison, I put in about 30 hours into Marvel 3 vanilla and I played a lot of challenges, A LOT of online with my friends, and a lot of arcade.  So there's enough content in the game right now to justify that $60 price tag.

@Raven there's a big issue with the input lag.  Pros complaining also don't have much ground to stand on with that though.  The ones complaining are the ones who made their names on punishing.  Capcom tuned the game with that input lag in mind.  Just because you think something "should" be punished doesn't mean Capcom designed it to be punished.  With that line of thinking you might as well make every move in the game punishable.  But that discussion is for another time.  Though, even if Capcom manages to make some optimizations, beg Sony to increase the BT/USB polling, it'll completely throw off the game's balance.  I don't think the devs would want to completely overhaul the game because people "Think" they should be able to punish something.  I mean, the game would still end up playing the same if they drop the input lag down 4 (Which is around what CPS2 arcade was). they'd just have to spend months rebalancing/editing the game just to end up making the game play the same.  It's not like the input lag affects execution.  Like, they dropped the input lag down by 2 and what ended up happening?  Some characters became unsafe and needed to be revamped (Or in Laura's case, broken in the wrong way) for season 2.


ethomaz


darkknightkryta

Quote from: ethomaz on Feb 09, 2017, 06:43 PM
Holy shame they managed to merge Ryo, Terry Bogard and Koola into one character!

They even gave her Poison's victory pose.