So a man walks into a bar...

Started by kitler53, Dec 05, 2016, 06:32 PM

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kitler53

...then pulls out his assult rifle to self-investigate the (baseless) allegation that hilary clinton is running a child naughtiness ring from the backrooms of the restaurant.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2016/12/04/d-c-police-respond-to-report-of-a-man-with-a-gun-at-comet-ping-pong-restaurant/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.7ed938e22f39


but i'd liberals that need to wake up and get out of their echo chambers...
         

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DerNebel

#1
Clearly this man was paid by Hillary Clinton to do this, so Trump supporters would be portrayed in a negative light by the crooked media.

the-pi-guy

Yeah this was ludicrous.  

I have 3 family members that believe most of the BS news that gets posted.  One of my aunt's posted a picture of the Mexico's southern wall as proof that we should have a southern wall.  Even though the picture was actually the US's southern border.  

Fake news is rampant and it's nuts.

kitler53

Quote from: DerNebel on Dec 05, 2016, 06:50 PMClearly this man was paid by Hillary Clinton to do this, so Trump supporters would be portrayed in a negative light by the crooked media.
how could i have missed that.  i really must learn to consult the alt-right to be told what to think before having an opinion of my own.  
         

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the-pi-guy

Quote from: kitler53 on Dec 05, 2016, 07:22 PMhow could i have missed that.  i really must learn to consult the alt-right to be told what to think before having an opinion of my own.  

Don't listen to the libral media.  They are all illegals-loving Muslim terrorists who are trying to kill us all, what with their climate change conspiracy, and trying to make us live as cavemen.  And they are trying to make me fornicate with their men.  Gay marriage is all libral bias!  
God bless America, even with its Nazi hating librals.  
-Alt right be like.  


Holy Frick that was exhausting, and dirty feeling.  

DD_Bwest

reminds me of last week,  i was in a pharmacy and 2 nut bags infront of me were talkin about how the Clintons are child molesting satan worshipping zions,  and were confident of it because they watched a "documentary"


the greatest argument against democracy,  is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter

kitler53

Quote from: DD_Bwest on Dec 05, 2016, 07:57 PMreminds me of last week,  i was in a pharmacy and 2 nut bags infront of me were talkin about how the Clintons are child molesting satan worshipping zions,  and were confident of it because they watched a "documentary"


the greatest argument against democracy,  is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter
lol.

i want to believe we are all better than that.  but we need to have some better regulations protections in place with the media.  i'm all for the 1st amendment but at the same time there needs to be some accountability to out right lying.  

if i bought guacamolee at the grocery and the product said it contains avacodo but it doesn't i can sue the fudge out of them for false advertising.  the media is selling me information and it is not unreasonable to expect that information to be reasonably true.  yes there are political things to talk about in which there are no true "facts" but rather just opinion and speculation,..  but at the same time there is a lot of stuff that simply is true or false like who won the popular vote.  we have to be holding ourselves and especially our media to higher standards than this.  the freedom of the press is such a fundamental part of our democracy that we need to protect it from bloggers and social media and whatever hell else is creating this stupidity in our population.

         

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kitler53

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good read.  reposting in full,.. not sure how many besides me subscribes to the WP.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/at-a-dc-pizzeria-the-dangers-of-fake-news-just-got-all-too-real/2016/12/05/b8ae43b8-baf4-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.58d5287eb109

The fake news stuff we've been talking about?

That all just got real.

An entire D.C. neighborhood was on lockdown Sunday because some dope with a gun believed a fake news story that wildly and wrongly linked a neighborhood pizzeria to a child naughtiness ring.

You could conclude that Edgar Maddison Welch, the 28-year-old man from North Carolina who allegedly walked into the Comet Ping Pong restaurant carrying an assault rifle, pointed it at an employee and then fired one or more shots, may be a singular nut job.

He told police he had come to the restaurant to "self-investigate" a false election-related conspiracy theory that linked Hillary Clinton to the child naughtiness ring.

But he wasn't the only dope who was roped into this.

A week before the presidential election, the son of retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn — the man President-elect Donald Trump has chosen as his national security adviser — shared the Comet Ping Pong conspiracy story.

Thousands of others shared it, too.

Days later, the retired general himself tweeted a hashtag referring to another fake news story that accused Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta, of satanic rituals using bodily fluids.

That there, the satanic ritual stuff, is straight out of the grocery checkout line.

Remember when Americans used to laugh at the crazy-bad supermarket tabloid stories about "Bat Boy!" or "Titanic Survivors Alive!" or "Alien Bible Found! They worship Oprah!"?

What was different back then?

Why didn't a desperado come storming toward the White House gates with his gun after the story about George W. Bush meeting with aliens hit the stands?

Because most people knew the source of the news — the National Enquirer, News of the World, etc. — wasn't remotely serious, as lacking in nutrition as the candy bars the tabloids were displayed alongside.

But in today's social-media universe, there's a flood of stories from fake news sites that look legit. And stories that sound as ludicrous as alien love triangles don't get a laugh, they get shared by our leaders, generating violent threats, dangerous reactions and, in the worst cases, bloodshed.

In an era when we have more access to more information than ever before, we've also become more willing to believe the crazy — and share it with others.

What happened at Comet Ping Pong isn't the first time we've seen real consequences of the doctored-news phenomenon.

A year ago, a gotcha video — created by folks who lied, schemed and plotted to get a doctor to talk about the graphic details of her work while secretly being record — was pinging in the head of Robert Lewis Dear Jr. when he stormed a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado.

Dear used the phrase "no more baby parts" after he allegedly killed three people — a police officer, an Iraq War veteran and a mother of two — and injured nine others in that shooting rampage.

Grandstanding congressmen fed him the "baby parts" line after they watched that heavily edited video of a Planned Parenthood executive talking about the donation of tissue from aborted fetuses. (They must've forgotten that fetal tissue has been used in important medical research since the 1930s and helped produce vaccines for polio, measles and mumps.)

The video was created under false pretensesand never would have met the standards of a legitimate news organization.

That faux investigation ended in hours of congressional hearings, a budget crisis for Planned Parenthood in many states and the deaths of those three people in Colorado.
[Words matter in attacks on Planned Parenthood, Black Lives Matter, Muslims]

Five years ago, it wasn't fake news but an equally careless use of words that helped incite an equally terrible burst of violence.

Supporters of former Alaska governor Sarah Palin put out a map with crosshairs targeting the districts of 20 House Democrats and urging folks: "Don't Retreat, Instead — RELOAD!"

Then-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) was on that map and criticized it as soon as it was posted online and her office was vandalized.

"We're on Sarah Palin's targeted list, but the thing is that the way she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district," Giffords told MSNBC at the time. "When people do that, they've got to realize there's consequences to that action."

On Jan. 8, 2011, the consequences were chilling: Jared Loughner showed up with a gun outside a Tucson supermarket where Giffords was greeting constituents and killed six people and injured 20 more, including Giffords.
Still, as the funerals were being held and Giffords was in intensive care, Palin's supporters insisted crosshairs were never a reference to guns.

Words matter.

That kind of disregard for common sense and responsibility has kudzu-ed into what we have today — educated leaders willing to believe conspiracy theories about child naughtiness rings and satanic rituals thanks to nothing more than a slick-looking online story.

Get a grip, America.

The owner of Comet Ping Pong had endured weeks of death threats. Phone calls, messages, stalkers, employees being harassed.

They've all complained about the relentless attacks. Then they faced a real attack, which has left a business and a neighborhood deeply shaken.
         

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BananaKing

i like this guy. you see a problem, you fix it. its simple.

anyone who condemns this mans act's is supporting child naughtiness rings. its really that simple.

DerNebel

Quote from: NotBananaKing on Dec 06, 2016, 01:42 PMi like this guy. you see a problem, you fix it. its simple.

anyone who condemns this mans act's is supporting child naughtiness rings. its really that simple.
You're kidding right?

BananaKing


DerNebel

Quote from: NotBananaKing on Dec 07, 2016, 10:10 AMobviously not.
So you're telling me you believe this cobbled together conspiracy theory about the political and economic elite, especially of course, around Hillary Clinton running a satanic child trafficking ring out of the basement of this Washington pizza place?

BananaKing

Quote from: DerNebel on Dec 07, 2016, 10:41 AMSo you're telling me you believe this cobbled together conspiracy theory about the political and economic elite, especially of course, around Hillary Clinton running a satanic child trafficking ring out of the basement of this Washington pizza place?
there is no need to believe. there are hard cold facts.

DerNebel

Quote from: NotBananaKing on Dec 07, 2016, 10:55 AMthere is no need to believe. there are hard cold facts.
Bulll-fudgy-shame, there are no facts here. What is there are a bunch of people (idiots) reading whatever they want into anything they can find.

BananaKing

Quote from: DerNebel on Dec 07, 2016, 11:01 AMBulll-fudgy-shame, there are no facts here. What is there are a bunch of people (idiots) reading whatever they want into anything they can find.