Video Game Sales Thread

[Dr. Pezus]

I'm on mobile so I cant be bothered to copy the link. But uncharted 4 was the best selling digital console game in may (beating doom and overwatch on consoles)

Overwatch made 269m in digital revenue from xb1, PC, and PS4.

Well, overwatch was huge on  pc

[DerNebel]

Jesus, I just realized that the Persona 5 special edition is already the 40th best selling gaming item of 2016 on Amazon.com. Just how?

[Legend]

Jesus, I just realized that the Persona 5 special edition is already the 40th best selling gaming item of 2016 on Amazon.com. Just how?

I guess the game has a lot of hardcore fans.

[Cute Pikachu]

So that tokyo mirage sessions is suppose to be pretty good, gonna flop but maybe since its good itll be a little less of a flop than before.

[DerNebel]

So that tokyo mirage sessions is suppose to be pretty good, gonna flop but maybe since its good itll be a little less of a flop than before.

That's what they get for choosing the stupid idol route.

[Aura7541]

That's what they get for choosing the stupid idol route.

Censorship is the bigger problem, to be quite honest.

[DerNebel]

Censorship is the bigger problem, to be quite honest.

Nah, it's not. That's maybe what the loud minority wants people to think it is, but the simple thing is that this game isn't what fans of the two parent series actually wanted. Instead they decided to go with probably one of the most niche and, to many people, off-putting story setting they could have chosen. The game was basically written off by the SMT community before it even launched in Japan.

Freaking idols... who thought that was a good idea?

[Aura7541]

Nah, it's not. That's maybe what the loud minority wants people to think it is, but the simple thing is that this game isn't what fans of the two parent series actually wanted. Instead they decided to go with probably one of the most niche and, to many people, off-putting story setting they could have chosen. The game was basically written off by the SMT community before it even launched in Japan.

Freaking idols... who thought that was a good idea?

On principle, censorship is the bigger problem because it has been happening to a lot of Nintendo's games lately (e.g. Fire Emblem, Xenoblade X, Bravely Second, Fatal Frame, and most recently, Tokyo Mirage) while the idol theme is a one-time thing. Whether it's being called out by the 'loud minority' doesn't change the principle that artists should be able to keep their original visions intact. Furthermore, considering how much flak Allison Rapp received prior to her dismissal, I highly doubt the criticism is coming from a loud minority...

[DerNebel]

On principle, censorship is the bigger problem because it has been happening to a lot of Nintendo's games lately (e.g. Fire Emblem, Xenoblade X, Bravely Second, Fatal Frame, and most recently, Tokyo Mirage) while the idol theme is a one-time thing. Whether it's being called out by the 'loud minority' doesn't change the principle that artists should be able to keep their original visions intact. Furthermore, considering how much flak Allison Rapp received prior to her dismissal, I highly doubt the criticism is coming from a loud minority...

It's not the bigger reason that explains the underperformance of the game. Fact is that this censorship has been happening for ages in gaming, for freaking ages, but it has just now become a big deal because a very loud minority has recently started using it as part of their fight against "SJW's". Tons of games are altered in some way when being brought over into new markets to better represent the standards and norms in these markets, that's called localization, that is normal and since the blatant sexualization of clearly underage girls doesn't fit with the standards and norms of western markets, one shouldn't be surprised if these things are altered as well.

And regarding that Alison Rapp thing, all of that shame is coming from loud minorities. I barely even noticed that whole thing, cause if you don't actively seek out this whole Gamergate stuff, at which point you already are a minority since most people have long stopped talking about this dumb crud, you won't hear about it either. It's just an echo chamber that makes people inside think they are doing something bigger than they actually are.

[Aura7541]

It's not the bigger reason that explains the underperformance of the game. Fact is that this censorship has been happening for ages in gaming, for freaking ages, but it has just now become a big deal because a very loud minority has recently started using it as part of their fight against "SJW's". Tons of games are altered in some way when being brought over into new markets to better represent the standards and norms in these markets, that's called localization, that is normal and since the blatant sexualization of clearly underage girls doesn't fit with the standards and norms of western markets, one shouldn't be surprised if these things are altered as well.

And regarding that Alison Rapp thing, all of that shame is coming from loud minorities. I barely even noticed that whole thing, cause if you don't actively seek out this whole Gamergate stuff, at which point you already are a minority since most people have long stopped talking about this dumb crud, you won't hear about it either. It's just an echo chamber that makes people inside think they are doing something bigger than they actually are.

How do you know? You're going to have to prove that it's a loud minority because your entire argument is dependent on that claim (plus anecdotal evidence) and if you can't back it up, then tough luck...

[DerNebel]

How do you know? You're going to have to prove that it's a loud minority because your entire argument is dependent on that claim (plus anecdotal evidence) and if you can't back it up, then tough luck...

It's just my faith in humanity that makes me believe that it's not more than a loud minority that's retarded enough to make a fuss about all this battleship.

[Legend]

It's not the bigger reason that explains the underperformance of the game. Fact is that this censorship has been happening for ages in gaming, for freaking ages, but it has just now become a big deal because a very loud minority has recently started using it as part of their fight against "SJW's". Tons of games are altered in some way when being brought over into new markets to better represent the standards and norms in these markets, that's called localization, that is normal and since the blatant sexualization of clearly underage girls doesn't fit with the standards and norms of western markets, one shouldn't be surprised if these things are altered as well.

And regarding that Alison Rapp thing, all of that shame is coming from loud minorities. I barely even noticed that whole thing, cause if you don't actively seek out this whole Gamergate stuff, at which point you already are a minority since most people have long stopped talking about this dumb crud, you won't hear about it either. It's just an echo chamber that makes people inside think they are doing something bigger than they actually are.

The "censorship" buzzword has pushed that issue so much farther than it used to be. It's annoying to have your region's version feel inferior and something should be done about it, but I find boycotting these games crazy.

[Aura7541]

It's just my faith in humanity that makes me believe that it's not more than a loud minority that's retarded enough to make a fuss about all this battleship.

Faith isn't good enough, I'm afraid. If the "calling out on censorship is done by a loud minority because you believe it to be so" is your best argument, then your claim has no foundation, at all. It's merely a knee-jerk reaction...

The "censorship" buzzword has pushed that issue so much farther than it used to be. It's annoying to have your region's version feel inferior and something should be done about it, but I find boycotting these games crazy.

Buzzwords become buzzwords if they are continuously used in the wrong context. "Misogyny", for example, is a buzzword because feminists continuously utilize that word whenever they are met with disagreement. They even go as far as to accuse non-feminist women for having "internal misogyny". Altering an artist's original vision because of the fear of this kind of reaction...

... is indeed censorship, by definition, and therefore, it is not a buzzword.

[DerNebel]

Faith isn't good enough, I'm afraid. If the "calling out on censorship is done by a loud minority because you believe it to be so" is your best argument, then your claim has no foundation, at all. It's merely a knee-jerk reaction...
Buzzwords become buzzwords if they are continuously used in the wrong context. "Misogyny", for example, is a buzzword because feminists continuously utilize that word whenever they are met with disagreement. They even go as far as to accuse non-feminist women for having "internal misogyny". Altering an artist's original vision because of the fear of this kind of reaction...

... is indeed censorship, by definition, and therefore, it is not a buzzword.

You mean a knee-jerk reaction like blaming the underperformance of this game on the "censorship"? How about you deliver proof that this whole censorship discussion is such a huge topic for a huge part of the gaming community?

Seriously no offense, but step out of your freaking bubble and rejoin us in the real world, where people are not fuming over game "censorship" and where the streets aren't filled with crazy feminists crying over "misogyny".

The "censorship" buzzword has pushed that issue so much farther than it used to be. It's annoying to have your region's version feel inferior and something should be done about it, but I find boycotting these games crazy.

Yeah, the term is probably one of the main reason people even latched on to that whole topic, it should simply be called localization cause that's what it is.

In Inside Out Pixar switched out broccoli for green peppers in a certain scene specifically for the japanese version of their movie, should we cry censorship there as well, because it's "changing what the artist's vision"? No because it was done so it would fit better for the japanese audience, just like most, most not all, of these changes made in western versions of Nintendo games or whatever also simply fit better for the western audience.

[Aura7541]

You mean a knee-jerk reaction like blaming the underperformance of this game on the "censorship"?

Did I actually say that? I said that censorship is the bigger problem on principle and I explained why because it not only applies to Tokyo Mirage, but many of Nintendo's other games, too. Ultimately, your argument is a strawman fallacy.

How about you deliver proof that this whole censorship discussion is such a huge topic for a huge part of the gaming community?

The burden of proof falls on the person making the positive claim. You claimed that the people calling developers out on develop are a loud minority and your reasoning was nothing more than faith (which by the way, the definition of faith is belief without evidence). Do you or do you not have evidence to back your claim? It is not my job to do the legwork for you.

Seriously no offense, but step out of your freaking bubble and rejoin us in the real world, where people are not fuming over game "censorship" and where the streets aren't filled with crazy feminists crying over "misogyny".

But there are people who do not approve of censorship and by your own admission, that group of people are vocal. As a result, your claim that the "real world" does not have people "fuming" over censorship is 100% false. Your second part is another strawman because I used "misogyny" as an example of a buzzword. I'm afraid you're living in a bubble considering your frequent fallacies and faith-based logic...