Twitter sends woman's address to stalker

[the-pi-guy]

Twitter sent a woman's address to her stalker - Business Insider

Here's a scary story of what happened when one women contacted Twitter to report that she was being harassed.

Twitter sent her full contact information, including her address, to the man who was harassing her.

What Twitter didn't make clear to her was that the DMCA complaint process involves sending a full, unredacted copy of the complaint to the person being complained about, including her contact information.

[DD_Bwest]

yea this isnt really twitters fault, this falls on the DMCA process, and herself for not researching was is fully involved.   a DMCA isnt some small thing, its an actual legal filing, what did she think would happen?    

[the-pi-guy]

yea this isnt really twitters fault, this falls on the DMCA process, and herself for not researching was is fully involved.   a DMCA isnt some small thing, its an actual legal filing, what did she think would happen?    

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Originally Posted by djplaeskool
 
 

 
 Unfortunately, that's part of the DMCA process, though it should have been made plain that you can use a proxy or agent to do so without divulging so much info.

 

That's part of the complaint made by the woman in the article:

She wants Twitter to include more visible instructions on its DMCA complaint page that advises people in stalker or harassment situations how to avoid sharing their address. Twitter's DMCA page currently says this (emphasis ours):    If we remove or restrict access to user content in response to a notice of alleged infringement, Twitter will make a good faith effort to contact the affected account holder with information concerning the removal or restriction of access, including a copy of the takedown notice, along with instructions for filing a counter-notification. Twitter also includes a message in the DMCA reporting form that says:    I understand that in order to process this notice, Twitter may provide third parties, such as Lumen and the affected user, with a copy of this complaint. In comparison, WordPress's DMCA support page says this (emphasis ours):    We recognize that you may not always be comfortable divulging your contact information to the user you're filing against. In these instances, you can appoint an agent to submit the DMCA notice on your behalf. You can appoint anyone as the agent (lawyer, copyright consulting firm, colleague, friend, family member, etc.); just make sure that they provide valid contact information and identify you as the copyright holder they're representing. GitHub's DMCA support page says this (emphasis ours):    We post redacted copies of any legal notices we receive (including original notices, counter notices or retractions) at https://github.com/github/dmca. We will not publicly publish your personal contact information; ... Please also note that, although we will not publicly publish unredacted notices, we may provide a complete unredacted copy of any notices we receive directly to any party whose rights would be affected by it. In response to a request for comment, Twitter told us. "We don't comment on individual accounts."

 

[DD_Bwest]

... so shes mad that twitter didn't give her info she should have looked into herself?

why is it always some companies job to protect people from their own stupidity?    if she was truely being harrassed,  why not go to police?

[the-pi-guy]

... so shes mad that twitter didn't give her info she should have looked into herself?

why is it always some companies job to protect people from their own stupidity?    if she was truely being harrassed,  why not go to police?

When someone is being harassed, it's understandable if they aren't going to do the rational thing 100% of the time.  
If someone is harassing you online do you really think of going to the police?

The underlying issue here is that Twitter are so out of their depth when it comes to harassment that they point people to DMCA takedowns when they complain about harassment. To put it differently, they're using the wrong tool for the job because Twitter can't be bothered to manage this issue.

[DD_Bwest]

When someone is being harassed, it's understandable if they aren't going to do the rational thing 100% of the time.  
If someone is harassing you online do you really think of going to the police?

if someone was taking personal family photos to spread online, then yes i would think of going to the police.  twitter has to allow free speech,  they cant just block people because someone says they are harrassing them. censorship isnt a rabbit hole to step into lightly.  that changes if you contact law enforcement.  she could have went to law enforcement, or done enough research to properly handle it herself, which would have been to use a proxy address for the filing or an attorney.  she choose to do neither and put herself in the situation she is in.

 where do we draw the line on what is harassment.  think of all the politicians and celebrities that have photos of them spread,  have people talking about them,  tweeting about them.    why does she get a pass?   because she doesnt like it?  i can bet you there are other who dont like it.   We have a new form of communication where people are allowed to talk about what they want.  what is the difference between 2 people in a pub talking about how someone is an idiot, compared to talking on twitter that they think someone is an idiot.

one of the major problems with this story is they dont really provide any real information on the original exchange.   what is her political view thats apparently being challenged.  who was she photographed with, what are these harasses allegedly tweeting?  we just have to take the story for what its worth with no names or anything attached.  why should we believe the story when we arent givin simple details.   Ive literally heard people call dissenting opinion as harassing. Someone writing a essay response to their idiotic views gets called harassment because it doesnt agree with them.  I have also seen people file false DMCA claims to try and silence criticism.  the lack of going to proper authorities makes me highly skeptical of the entire claim, and my above problem just adds to that.

every story has 2 sides, so far the only side we have heard from withheld a lot of info to try and hide the other side from being discovered.  that to me is a major red flag. I am open to believing her, and would also be mad if people were sharing pictures of my kids,  but i also dont just openly believe everything im told or read on a news site.

[the-pi-guy]

Dealing With Online Stalking, As A Lawyer And A Victim - The Establishment

Spoiler for Hidden:

<blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><cite>Quote</cite>After a short exchange on Twitter, he barraged her with 40 messages, at which point she blocked him. He then created multiple accounts—by Parker's count, 29 more on Twitter and four on Facebook, using numerous pseudonyms that he's used to contact her through her website—in order to continue to harass her. Two months later, in May, he used her contact page to send her an explicit sexual message, at which point she called the police.<br>The officer who responded sat on her couch, looked through everything, and in Parker's words, "literally said, 'well, it's not as if he's threatened to rape you or chop you up into little bits yet.'" He then suggested she send a cease and desist letter, which she did immediately. Mr. Green responded with a diatribe refusing to stop his harassment, referencing the Second Amendment.&nbsp; <br><br>"That intake sheet contained my name, home address, email, phone, birth date, and SSN." Green responded by posting all of this private information publicly on Twitter. At the top of the page is an NYPD fax number.<br>"When confronted with a tweet of [Mr. Green's] talking about how it was moral and just to bomb abortion clinics (while I worked at Planned Parenthood), [council said] 'Your honor, it's not as if he threatened to bomb HER abortion clinic.'" Parker tells me you could have heard "a pin drop" in the courtroom, and that the judge gave the counsel defending Mr. Green a scathing look.<br><br></blockquote>

Someone on GAF said this was expanded details of the story, but reading through all of it, it definitely sounds like it's a different situation.