E3 2016 Hype!

[DerNebel]

Welp, add PS4k to the list! Sounds great!

Plus XBOX ONE is getting a slim version and a powerup too!

E3 hardware hype!

I still don't think there's any reason for Sony to talk about the PS4k at E3, what good would it do them to announce this between 4-9 months before launching it (depending on the rumours you're listening to)? This would do nothing but harm current PS4 sales.

[Mmm_fish_tacos]

Do we have dates yet?

[Raven]

I still don't think there's any reason for Sony to talk about the PS4k at E3, what good would it do them to announce this between 4-9 months before launching it (depending on the rumours you're listening to)? This would do nothing but harm current PS4 sales.

While I don't think Sony nor Microsoft made these supposed refreshes to counter the NX, I think at this point it might now be something they're committed to because of it. Having inferior hardware can be a detriment depending on just how inferior it is. Plus, these consoles started off far weaker versus what PC was already doing than probably any other time in the history of the industry. The only way for them to keep initial costs down for these consoles instead of making more $600+ mistakes that may have killed the market was to release relatively weak hardware but then release an optional, non-exclusive platform refresh that pleases both developers and consumers. Which is honestly very difficult to do since most developers want a platform with as much power as possible and most consumers want a console with the most agreeable price. It also beats releasing a brand new console after 4 years like what Nintendo is doing, which is the only other option for having hardware that can keep up.

It would only harm sales in the short term, much the same way very nice bundles announced months ahead of time harm current sales. Once the product releases everything goes back to normal. This also assumes tons of people would be onboard with it. It's entirely possible that many would not be and just continue buying the current platform anyways. I don't think PS4 sales are what should be a concern. The concern should be aimed at how this could affect PSVR. That platform will largely depend on people who already own a PS4 being willing to shell out another $400. However, if they know a console refresh is coming the following quarter, if rumors are true, then they might hold that money for a better version of something they know is great rather than blow it on something that might suck. Which then puts PSVR in an even more perilous position of relying on people willing to shell out $800 up front. This might not necessarily be the death of PSVR but it will probably slow its initial growth a lot more than previously expected.

[DerNebel]

While I don't think Sony nor Microsoft made these supposed refreshes to counter the NX, I think at this point it might now be something they're committed to because of it. Having inferior hardware can be a detriment depending on just how inferior it is. Plus, these consoles started off far weaker versus what PC was already doing than probably any other time in the history of the industry. The only way for them to keep initial costs down for these consoles instead of making more $600+ mistakes that may have killed the market was to release relatively weak hardware but then release an optional, non-exclusive platform refresh that pleases both developers and consumers. Which is honestly very difficult to do since most developers want a platform with as much power as possible and most consumers want a console with the most agreeable price. It also beats releasing a brand new console after 4 years like what Nintendo is doing, which is the only other option for having hardware that can keep up.

It would only harm sales in the short term, much the same way very nice bundles announced months ahead of time harm current sales. Once the product releases everything goes back to normal. This also assumes tons of people would be onboard with it. It's entirely possible that many would not be and just continue buying the current platform anyways. I don't think PS4 sales are what should be a concern. The concern should be aimed at how this could affect PSVR. That platform will largely depend on people who already own a PS4 being willing to shell out another $400. However, if they know a console refresh is coming the following quarter, if rumors are true, then they might hold that money for a better version of something they know is great rather than blow it on something that might suck. Which then puts PSVR in an even more perilous position of relying on people willing to shell out $800 up front. This might not necessarily be the death of PSVR but it will probably slow its initial growth a lot more than previously expected.

Yeah,.... no. Announcing this months before launch like this can only be harmful to current sales of the PS4 and there's absolutely no benefit to it for Sony in this.

[Raven]

Yeah,.... no. Announcing this months before launch like this can only be harmful to current sales of the PS4 and there's absolutely no benefit to it for Sony in this.

Okay. Whatever you say.

[Horizon]

A Crash Bandicoot revival would be bigger than Shenmue and TLG for me. Crash Bandicoot is still very much adored by fans who played it years ago, and would be a huge announcement. I agree FF7 remake would be bigger but after that a Crash Bandicoot revivial would be the next big thing.

[DerNebel]

Okay. Whatever you say.

I just don't see the advantage, sure you can argue that the drop of hardware sales would only be for a limited time period, but why would they want that? To have sales drop significantly for like 2 quarters or so. They could drop the price of the normal PS4 immediately following the announcement, but what would they gain from that? Also announcing this thing so far in advance only makes it seem so much more like an entirely new console, which, going by rumour reactions, is just going to piss people off even more. A more subdued announcement however, like a month or so before launch, is going to give up much less of a dramatic impression of something that is going to have a huge impact on your current PS4.

Right now the press and the gaming community is making a huge deal out of this, Sony should imo do their best to showcase that none of this is as dramatic as the public is making it out to be, they aren't doing that by making a huge fuss about it at E3, potentially over half a year before launch.

[Dr. Pezus]

Why are you guys talking about hl3?

[the-pi-guy]

Why are you guys talking about hl3?

Because it's a big game that hasn't been around in years, and fans are desperate for a comeback.  

[Dr. Pezus]

Because it's a big game that hasn't been around in years, and fans are desperate for a comeback.  

And have been desperate for many years lulz.

[the-pi-guy]

And have been desperate for many years lulz.

Exactly like FFVII.  

[Dr. Pezus]

Exactly like FFVII.  

At least ffvii exists. There is no hl3 to play while waiting for hl3

[Raven]

At least ffvii exists. There is no hl3 to play while waiting for hl3

I just don't see the advantage, sure you can argue that the drop of hardware sales would only be for a limited time period, but why would they want that? To have sales drop significantly for like 2 quarters or so. They could drop the price of the normal PS4 immediately following the announcement, but what would they gain from that? Also announcing this thing so far in advance only makes it seem so much more like an entirely new console, which, going by rumour reactions, is just going to piss people off even more. A more subdued announcement however, like a month or so before launch, is going to give up much less of a dramatic impression of something that is going to have a huge impact on your current PS4.

Right now the press and the gaming community is making a huge deal out of this, Sony should imo do their best to showcase that none of this is as dramatic as the public is making it out to be, they aren't doing that by making a huge fuss about it at E3, potentially over half a year before launch.

First, people will be pissed no matter what once they've decided that should be their initial reaction. They'll probably buy the dang thing, too. People love to react with negative hyperbole to anything they even remotely don't like for whatever reason. Unless it's something that is just completely disagreeable to the masses, which we know this actually isn't, you won't see that big drop you think is coming. In this case, most of them will baby that they bought a PS4 and now this thing is coming. Yet, with just a little bit of thought, they would realize that their best option at that point is to trade in their existing PS4 and use the credit towards the new console if they really want it. Their other option is to just wait, continue using the console they have, and then maybe later buy the new one. That's the beauty part of this supposed hardware refresh. If you stick to your current device, you're going to be getting the same experiences you would have been getting anyways, even if this PS4K never existed. It is a purely optional upgrade if you want your games to run better.

Considering that rumors are swirling that Microsoft may be doing the same thing, despite Spencer making it sound like it's not (he's full of shame most days), and that Nintendo is completely replacing the Wii U after only 4 years on the market, Sony really isn't going to be in bad shape by doing this. Buy a whole new Nintendo console, optionally buy a more powerful PS4, or whatever Microsoft does or doesn't do which won't matter either way. No one is going to suddenly run to a console they already weren't buying because a more powerful, optional version of another console entered the market.

What I do agree with you on is that Sony needs to be very careful with how they present this device, regardless of when and how far in advance. A lot of questions will be raised and they need to clearly answer all of them so that there is no misunderstanding.

[Legend]

Xbox Details E3 Plans - NeoGAF

http://news.xbox.com/2016/05/03/xbox...medium=twitter Conference is streaming and also on Spike again

Today, we're excited to announce that the Xbox E3 2016 Briefing will take place Monday, June 13, beginning at 9:30 a.m. PDT. During the briefing, you'll have a chance to check out everything from in-depth looks at previously-announced games to trailers for our unannounced titles coming in 2016 and beyond. You can watch the Xbox E3 2016 Briefing live beginning at 9:30 a.m. PDT on June 13 on Xbox.com, the Xbox Twitch Channel, via the Xbox Live Events Player on Xbox One and Xbox 360 consoles, or on the big screen at your local Microsoft store. You can also watch the Xbox E3 2016 Briefing on Spike TV in the U.S. and Canada at 9:30 a.m. PDT / 12:30 p.m. EDT.

 

E3 Daily Live Returns

We're also happy to share that we'll be bringing back Xbox Daily: LIVE @ E3, our live news show that covers all things Xbox at E3 – from breaking news and exclusive announcements to trailer reveals and interviews with game creators. The one-hour show will be hosted by Larry Hryb, Xbox Live's Major Nelson, and Graeme Boyd, Xbox Live's Acey Bongos, and will include a variety of guest stars and prominent industry figures. Xbox Daily: LIVE @ E3 will air on Tuesday, June 14 and Wednesday, June 15 from 4:00-5:00 p.m. PDT, and can be streamed live on Xbox One, on Xbox.com (both on your desktop and on mobile), on Xbox 360, and on the Xbox Twitch Channel.  Each show will also have interactive experiences created just for fans watching live on Xbox One.

 

Xbox Fanfest

Once again, Xbox will be giving 500 lucky fans a ticket for exclusive access to Xbox FanFest: E3 2016. The Xbox FanFest: E3 2016 is from Monday, June 13, through Wednesday, June 15. Tickets will include: Entry into the Xbox E3 2016 Briefing on Monday, June 13th, 9:30 a.m. PDT at the Galen Center A custom-built backpack filled with gaming swag Play time with all-new exclusives and our biggest blockbuster games coming this holiday The chance to meet some of the industry's top developers, leaders and influencers. Even more surprise events during the week.http://www.xbox.com/en-US/e3/fanfest

 

[the-pi-guy]

Will be very interested to see what Microsoft brings.