Gears of War 4 - Free map each month for a year, maps rotate, buy to keep for customs - NeoGAF

[DerNebel]

i live in chicago.  restaurants that do just that are the most desired and busy restaurants in the city.  updating your menu to reflect what is in season means better food and a gives me a great reason to come back again next month and the month after.  restaurants that only serve the same thing forever are easy to forget about for long periods of time,..  which means i go to a different restaurant to get some variety and maybe repeat that restaurant in a year or so.

its okay if you want to be boring on only eat/play the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again.   ..but the rest of us move on to new games.  game companies are trying these rotations because right now mp communities are active for about a month and than crash as people move onto the next game.  they are trying to find ways to have their userbase remain engaged and keep playing.  complain all you want but rotating line-ups is a waaaay better option than going to play a static set of whatever and finding there isn't anyone else online to play against.

Nobody's talking about doing the same thing over and over again though, I'm talking about having all the options available to you. To move back to the maps, you're making it sound like every month you get a whole set of new maps to try out, when in reality you're getting one new map a month, while an old one is rotated out and down the line you'll probably get several maps rotated out and in. So yeah sure the pool selection changes but there will still just be one actually new map per month, so please tell me how there is less variety in a map pool of lets say 20 maps that grows by one map a month than in a pool that's made up of 10 maps that changes every month but it's still just 10 maps picked out of the growing 20 map pool.

[kitler53]

Nobody's talking about doing the same thing over and over again though, I'm talking about having all the options available to you. To move back to the maps, you're making it sound like every month you get a whole set of new maps to try out, when in reality you're getting one new map a month, while an old one is rotated out and down the line you'll probably get several maps rotated out and in. So yeah sure the pool selection changes but there will still just be one actually new map per month, so please tell me how there is less variety in a map pool of lets say 20 maps that grows by one map a month than in a pool that's made up of 10 maps that changes every month but it's still just 10 maps picked out of the growing 20 map pool.

for the reason i was piss as fudge the night i bought that last destiny expansion and when i went to play a strike playlist the entire night i ended up playing the nexus and the summoning pits.  the new maps barely showed up and the old tired maps i loathed playing due to playing them waaaaaay too many times showed up all the time. add 1 new maps to 20 existing maps and tell me that adding that map makes the game feel any less tired than the night before...

taking a break form an old map is a good thing.  having it reintroduced after a break is a good thing too.

[Legend]

i live in chicago.  restaurants that do just that are the most desired and busy restaurants in the city.  updating your menu to reflect what is in season means better food and a gives me a great reason to come back again next month and the month after.  restaurants that only serve the same thing forever are easy to forget about for long periods of time,..  which means i go to a different restaurant to get some variety and maybe repeat that restaurant in a year or so.

its okay if you want to be boring on only eat/play the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again.   ..but the rest of us move on to new games.  game companies are trying these rotations because right now mp communities are active for about a month and than crash as people move onto the next game.  they are trying to find ways to have their userbase remain engaged and keep playing.  complain all you want but rotating line-ups is a waaaay better option than going to play a static set of whatever and finding there isn't anyone else online to play against.

Your analogies are skirting around the fact both static and changing offerings are enjoyed. Just because some restaurants change menus doesn't mean all of them should.

Lots of games work great with ever changing content, such as Destiny and most MMOs. If they game is built around the idea, it's often wonderful. People fully understand events are limited time only.

The problem with Gears IMO is that they're charging for maps if you want to keep them for customs. Makes removing old maps feel like a cheap ploy to make money. With your restaurant example it'd be like raising prices on old items verse removing them.

That example isn't really 1:1.
I personally would be outraged.  I'm a very picky eater, and finding out the food that I eat at a restaurant isn't being offered at the time would not be good.  
I would legitimately have to leave.  

It's be like going to a hospital and finding out, sorry we don't do anything about heart attacks this week. Come back next week.  

I would say it's more like finding out that you don't have access to some of the rooms in your house.  "Hey sorry, in order to keep your house experience fresh, you're sleeping on the couch tonight. "

Yippee.  

Do you never go to fancy/hipster restaurants? They do stuff like that all the time.

Or even the McRib+shamrock shake at McDonalds.

[the-pi-guy]

Do you never go to fancy/hipster restaurants? They do stuff like that all the time.
Or even the McRib+shamrock shake at McDonalds.

No, they likely wouldn't have anything for me to eat. 
I don't like McDonalds, even though they do have things for me to eat. 

Not saying it's 1:1, for having the game be set up to my eating desires. 
Map rotations can definitely be effective, but they aren't necessary. 

[Legend]

No, they likely wouldn't have anything for me to eat.  
I don't like McDonalds, even though they do have things for me to eat.  

Not saying it's 1:1, for having the game be set up to my eating desires.  
Map rotations can definitely be effective, but they aren't necessary.  

They have good food usually, you should try them!

A restaurant near me bought an old morgue and cleaned it up. The tables are the original slabs the bodies were on. Fun place to eat right  

[the-pi-guy]

A restaurant near me bought an old morgue and cleaned it up. The tables are the original slabs the bodies were on. Fun place to eat right  

Oh gosh no.  :
I'm sure it almost ends up being more hygienic than normal tables, because of weird reasons.  

BUT NO!  

[DerNebel]

for the reason i was piss as fudge the night i bought that last destiny expansion and when i went to play a strike playlist the entire night i ended up playing the nexus and the summoning pits.  the new maps barely showed up and the old tired maps i loathed playing due to playing them waaaaaay too many times showed up all the time. add 1 new maps to 20 existing maps and tell me that adding that map makes the game feel any less tired than the night before...

taking a break form an old map is a good thing.  having it reintroduced after a break is a good thing too.

Nothing that can't be solved by some map weighing stuff or other tweeks, give the new map higher priority for a week or two after being added, or at some point increase the number of maps people can choose from prior to the match to get a higher chance of a new map appearing, or introduce a "skip maps" option in case you like none of the maps that are put on offer before said round. If you still just end up playing the same maps over and over again, then that's just what people want to play and you kinda have to accept that and not expect devs to remove these maps from the playlist because you're tired of them.

[BananaKing]

the restaurant analogy sucks. it doesn't make sense. but saying this is good is like saying it would be good for Netflix to remove older season of shows just to "keep things fresh"

also, it baffles me just how much MS is willing to screw their consumer for some extra cash.

[Dr. Pezus]

It's weird to see Americans defending limitations to freedom  

[Mmm_fish_tacos]

They added a doge ball game. Except there's no ball. When your killed you sit out till a member of the other team is killed. Sounds like it could be fun.

[Legend]

They added a doge ball game. Except there's no ball. When your killed you sit out till a member of the other team is killed. Sounds like it could be fun.

Yeah sounds like a cool variation of stock.

Definitely borrowing it for VizionEck.

[kitler53]

The problem with Gears IMO is that they're charging for maps if you want to keep them for customs. Makes removing old maps feel like a cheap ploy to make money. With your restaurant example it'd be like raising prices on old items verse removing them.

how quickly gamers forget that the gears 3 season pass was $30. 

they are a business,. their entire existence is to make money.  but they are giving away what you had to pay $30 for in the last game and suddenly they are and evil corporation with cheap ploys for rotating maps and asking for money only from those that want to play them in custom matches all so that the community doesn't get iced over by fragmentation. 

gamers are the whiniest pieces of shame freeloaders ever. 

[Legend]

how quickly gamers forget that the gears 3 season pass was $30.

they are a business,. their entire existence is to make money.  but they are giving away what you had to pay $30 for in the last game and suddenly they are and evil corporation with cheap ploys for rotating maps and asking for money only from those that want to play them in custom matches all so that the community doesn't get iced over by fragmentation.

gamers are the whiniest pieces of shame freeloaders ever.

They also added microtransactions so...

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