November 2015 NPD - PS4 1.539m, Xb1 1.296m, 3DS 350k, WiiU 240k, Some SW Up

[BananaKing]

Someone asked for Metal Gear Solid series sales in USA. Below is packaged unit sales. MGS: ~2.5m MGS2: ~2.2m MGS3: ~1.5m MGS4: >2m MGS5: ~1m

— ZhugeEX (@ZhugeEX) December 15, 2015

Sales are for PlayStation platforms and include sales for MGS2 Substance and MGS3 Subsistence. Bundles included but digital and re-releases are of course not.
The MGS5 number of course includes all platforms.

are those lifetime sales?

Square released the 2013 version in march though, just like they did with Type-0 HD, Thief released in February and the last Deus EX released in August just like the new one will as well after being delayed from early 2016, every entry in the FFXIII saga released early in the year outside of Japan as well, sure Just Cause 3 is a holiday release but even that avoided the big games by launching in December. What I'm trying to say is that SE isn't a publisher that's shying away from avoiding holiday releases for their big games and that I'd in this case more point fingers towards the party that has been beating their drum about the biggest lineup in history using Tomb Raider, that is historically known for throwing almost all the releases they have into the holiday season and that, when asked said that there wasn't a better release week available for them because of Halo, CoD and Battlefront indicating that they couldn't even fathom the idea of not releasing this game during the holiday season.

Microsoft iced this one up.

yeah the deal and situation would probably make it hard for SE to delay it. specially considering that

1- MS is the one publishing the game on XB1 (i still dont know why and why SE would allow them)

2- The game was actually finished on time.

[Raven]

Tomb rider isn't some small unknown niche game. It's a well known and established franchise. It should be able to hold its own as a major player in the industry.

The xb1 has 9m people in the US alone. Only 180k of those wanted the game.  this includes gifts as well. People just didn't want the game.

The release date is a scapegoat

If anything this further drives home the point that hardcore Xbox fans were simply squawking about RotTR. That it was little more than a bullet point on a list war for them. If they really were excited about it, to the extent they made it seem, the game would not have sold less than 200k in its first month on XBO which just happened to be one of the two biggest months of the year. Even with the competition it was facing the game would have sold at least 3 or 4 times the amount it did based on the anticipation they were feigning.

[ZhugeEX]

are those lifetime sales?

Not for MGS5. But the others are.

[BananaKing]

Not for MGS5. But the others are.

I honestly would have thought that past MGS games did better in the US than that. considering its a legendary franchise.

MGS can leg out and go on to match and exceed some of the games on that list. doubt it will be the best selling unless it has pretty good legs.

If anything this further drives home the point that hardcore Xbox fans were simply squawking about RotTR. That it was little more than a bullet point on a list war for them. If they really were excited about it, to the extent they made it seem, the game would not have sold less than 200k in its first month on XBO which just happened to be one of the two biggest months of the year. Even with the competition it was facing the game would have sold at least 3 or 4 times the amount it did based on the anticipation they were feigning.

the reality is, the fanbase just isnt on the XB1. people interested in those types of games are mostly on the PS4.

and honestly, id argue that the game wasnt marketed properly. its supposed to be really good, but a lot of the footage i've seen before launch didnt show that.

[ethomaz]

Thanks @ZhugeEX

So MGSV sales are fine for US.
1m in three months when most games sold 2m LT is really ok.

[Dr. Pezus]

Thanks @ZhugeEX

So MGSV sales are fine for US.
1m in three months when most games sold 2m LT is really ok.

Well but it seems it won't leg it to 2m. Like 1.5m I can see. And multiplat + open world at that (much higher budget no doubt)

[DerNebel]

Well but it seems it won't leg it to 2m. Like 1.5m I can see. And multiplat + open world at that (much higher budget no doubt)

Don't think that people give a dang at this point if Konami makes money from this or not.

[ethomaz]

LTD, Splatoon > Bloodborne

retail

[DerNebel]

That's kind of a "duh" thing to point out, the chertz have Splatoon at almost 2 to 1 in comparison to Bloodborne in the states (then again Bloodborne is probably undertracked globally I'd say), weird that he'd feel the need to point that out now, was Bloodborne maybe still ahead of Splatoon prior to November?

[Aura7541]

So, um... how did SAO: Lost Song do? I know the number is definitely not high, but I'm curious on how it did vs October's JRPGs (e.g. DQ Heroes, Disgaea 5, & Zestiria).

[Max King of the Wild]

If anything this further drives home the point that hardcore Xbox fans were simply squawking about RotTR. That it was little more than a bullet point on a list war for them. If they really were excited about it, to the extent they made it seem, the game would not have sold less than 200k in its first month on XBO which just happened to be one of the two biggest months of the year. Even with the competition it was facing the game would have sold at least 3 or 4 times the amount it did based on the anticipation they were feigning.

exactly. There was an article on n4g (one of many actually)  when everyone was saying they were happy with the sales of the game. I wish I could bump articles because people were saying tr is a bigger franchise than Uncharted

[Dr. Pezus]

exactly. There was an article on n4g (one of many actually)  when everyone was saying they were happy with the sales of the game. I wish I could bump articles because people were saying tr is a bigger franchise than Uncharted

lol

[ZhugeEX]

exactly. There was an article on n4g (one of many actually)  when everyone was saying they were happy with the sales of the game. I wish I could bump articles because people were saying tr is a bigger franchise than Uncharted

Well technically it is, purely because it's been around longer and has amassed more than 45 million unit sales across all games including more than 8.5 million from Tomb Raider 2013 on both 7th and 8th gen.

That game alone is probably better if not similar to the best selling Uncharted title.

But with Rise of the Tomb Raider it is very clear that the game will not be that successful (Unless the PC version really takes off again) and it is very likely that the game will not sell as much as Uncharted 4 will.

In fact, the first Uncharted title on PS3 back in 2007 sold 120k in its first month and went on to sell over 1 million in the U.S. (excluding bundles). Rise of the Tomb Raider opened with 175k on Xbox One but I would be surprised if it can achieve a similar or better performance, again excluding bundles.

[Max King of the Wild]

Well technically it is, purely because it's been around longer and has amassed more than 45 million unit sales across all games including more than 8.5 million from Tomb Raider 2013 on both 7th and 8th gen.

That game alone is probably better if not similar to the best selling Uncharted title.

But with Rise of the Tomb Raider it is very clear that the game will not be that successful (Unless the PC version really takes off again) and it is very likely that the game will not sell as much as Uncharted 4 will.

In fact, the first Uncharted title on PS3 back in 2007 sold 120k in its first month and went on to sell over 1 million in the U.S. (excluding bundles). Rise of the Tomb Raider opened with 175k on Xbox One but I would be surprised if it can achieve a similar or better performance, again excluding bundles.

If you remember, pre-orders weren't as widely used in 2007. Only really gamestop took advantage of them. Now you get your retail exclusive bonus for them. More importance on first week sales now.

45m global? How many titles? Because Uncharted crossed 21m globally only accounting 1-3 before NDC launched.

[Dr. Pezus]

If you remember, pre-orders weren't as widely used in 2007. Only really gamestop took advantage of them. Now you get your retail exclusive bonus for them.

45m global? How many titles? Because Uncharted crossed 21m globally only accounting 1-3 before NDC launched.

Uncharted should probably be close to 30m now. Uncharted 4 and continued NDC sales will get the franchise to 40m+!