Vote for your favorite NX

[the-pi-guy]

This is inspired by the design NX thread on neogaf.  But I want to add my own special twist to it.

post before reading other posts

Here's how it works.
Describe the NX as you would release it.  You can be as specific as you want.  You must include the following at minimum though
1.) Price and Power (BE REASONABLE!!!!)
2.) 5 major games in the first year.  (Feel free to list more but have 5 in specific.)
3.) Describe system (type of controller, VR?)
4.) Release date

Feel free to do more, but give extras as separate bullet point. Example
2.) 5 games
2A.) Etc

Please put your ideas in a spoiler tag.
We will vote for the best one.

[kitler53]

Spoiler for Hidden:

1. $300 and ps4 whatever ps4 is in terms of power or at least close to it.&nbsp; x86 architecture.&nbsp; actually,.. basically i&#39;d just rip off the ps4 as much as possible.&nbsp; in doing so the barrier for ports is low and 3rd parties will likely support.&nbsp; ps4 will be supported for years to come and nintendo could join the iterative console bandwagon.<br><br>2. zelda was obviously a good decision to delay for NX release.&nbsp; they should have a mario platformer too.&nbsp; after that who cares so long as there are a lot of games in the first year (even small ones).&nbsp; nintendo needs to at least fool 1st year buyers into thinking NX will be supported well even if it means only realeasing games for a year or two and then going dead like nintendo are soo guilty of doing.<br><br>3. i actually like the idea of the kind of traditional looking controller patent with the screen that allows buttons to be labeled and reassigned to fit the game.&nbsp; it will perfectly be able to play traditional games while also allowing for wiiU BC and probably some new experiences (RTS for instance).&nbsp; I think they should also have an updated wiimote too.&nbsp; <br><br>3a. i&#39;m not a huge fan of the idea that the controller doubles as a handheld.&nbsp; i dunno, maybe it&#39;s okay but it&#39;s not a think that excites me either.&nbsp; i think handhelds are always have extreemly poor ergonoics compared to home console controllers.&nbsp; i&#39;d rather have ergonomic controllers than mobility.<br>

so in summary,.. i'm uncreative and i'm just spitting back the existent rumors.

[Max King of the Wild]

Spoiler for Hidden:

release a subscription based app that can be loaded on ps4, xbox or pc.

[Legend]

Spoiler for Hidden:

1. $399 and 1% stronger than whatever the PS4 Neo ends up being. Nintendo can&#39;t be a graphics beast, but they absolutely can&#39;t be thought of as underpowered for a third generation in a row.<br>2. Zelda, Pikmin 4, Luigi&#39;s Mansion 2, standard party game for the NX gimmick, some graphic intense game to show the power and attract teens, a standard 2D platformer like kirby or yoshi, and ports of Wii U games.<br>3. I have no clue what nintendo will do. However if I could rewind time and make the device however I wanted, I&#39;d make it a full on VR system. VR is an evolution of motion gaming so it could work great with Nintendo&#39;s image, and VR has great asymmetric multiplayer options with the TV showing unique footage. System would have a kinect 1.0 like motion tracker to track headset, controllers, player&#39;s body, and the play environment. These things aren&#39;t that expensive nowadays. Remotes would be upgraded and restyled wiimotes. The headset would use gamepad style streaming to make itself cordless. This causes a slight decrease in quality, but Nintendo is going for mass market VR. For this route, the system would be $349 including the console, headset, two wiimotes, and kinect tracker. Would be slightly more powerful than standard PS4. Going for full on VR, it&#39;d be important to undercut the PSVR price. Headset would use a standard smartphone display and cheap optics and fit between GearVR and PSVR in experience.<br><br>All games would support VR, although for many this could be just through a virtual theater. 2D games are still important and supported.<br>4. March 2017<br>

[the-pi-guy]

Do I need to fix something so more people participate?  

[Legend]

Do I need to fix something so more people participate?  

It's kinda hard since the NX already exists and is obviously doing something. "Are we predicting the NX, or designing the NX" was a question I struggled with while making my answer.

[the-pi-guy]

It's kinda hard since the NX already exists and is obviously doing something. "Are we predicting the NX, or designing the NX" was a question I struggled with while making my answer.

Designing.

Basically suppose you were in charge of Nintendo.  You have to direct what the NX hardware would be like, and what games would be developed for it.  
Do you want it do VR?  Do you want the focus to be on 3D?  Do you want none of that?  
What games would you want developed?  

Is that good?^
I know I wrote the OP on my phone and super early in the morning/late at night; and just looking at it I guess I wasn't really very clear about stuff.  

[kitler53]

Spoiler for Hidden:

1. $399 and 1% stronger than whatever the PS4 Neo ends up being. Nintendo can't be a graphics beast, but they absolutely can't be thought of as underpowered for a third generation in a row.
2. Zelda, Pikmin 4, Luigi's Mansion 2, standard party game for the NX gimmick, some graphic intense game to show the power and attract teens, a standard 2D platformer like kirby or yoshi, and ports of Wii U games.
3. I have no clue what nintendo will do. However if I could rewind time and make the device however I wanted, I'd make it a full on VR system. VR is an evolution of motion gaming so it could work great with Nintendo's image, and VR has great asymmetric multiplayer options with the TV showing unique footage. System would have a kinect 1.0 like motion tracker to track headset, controllers, player's body, and the play environment. These things aren't that expensive nowadays. Remotes would be upgraded and restyled wiimotes. The headset would use gamepad style streaming to make itself cordless. This causes a slight decrease in quality, but Nintendo is going for mass market VR. For this route, the system would be $349 including the console, headset, two wiimotes, and kinect tracker. Would be slightly more powerful than standard PS4. Going for full on VR, it'd be important to undercut the PSVR price. Headset would use a standard smartphone display and cheap optics and fit between GearVR and PSVR in experience.

All games would support VR, although for many this could be just through a virtual theater. 2D games are still important and supported.
4. March 2017

Spoiler for Hidden:

no way NX is even close to neo.&nbsp; 1. neo is going to be expensive (more than $399 and probably $499,.. at the very least out of the range nintendo is willing to go.&nbsp; 2. nintendo is going to &quot;do something different&quot;.&nbsp; I don&#39;t know what weird thing nintendo is going to do with their controller but it will make it an expensive controller compared to the ps4&#39;s gamepad and nintendo needs to gimp something else in order to pay for that contoller.&nbsp; also nintendo absolutely will not sell the console for a significant loss. MSony are willing to but nintendo are not.&nbsp; your entire point 1 is the wishful thinking that nintendo fans always seem to do just before a hardware announcement,.. somehow nintendo is magically going to build a more powerful system and a lower cost than anyone else is able to do.&nbsp; it is the entire reason that superchunck comparison thread on vgchartz was laughable to me from day 1.<br><br>NX will be in the ballpark of the original ps4.&nbsp; ps4 will be sold as of march 2017 for ~$300 at a small profit.&nbsp; nintendo adds another $50 towards an &quot;innovation&quot; and sells NX for $300 to $350.&nbsp; #truthfact

[Legend]

Spoiler for Hidden:

no way NX is even close to neo.  1. neo is going to be expensive (more than $399 and probably $499,.. at the very least out of the range nintendo is willing to go.  2. nintendo is going to "do something different".  I don't know what weird thing nintendo is going to do with their controller but it will make it an expensive controller compared to the ps4's gamepad and nintendo needs to gimp something else in order to pay for that contoller.  also nintendo absolutely will not sell the console for a significant loss. MSony are willing to but nintendo are not.  your entire point 1 is the wishful thinking that nintendo fans always seem to do just before a hardware announcement,.. somehow nintendo is magically going to build a more powerful system and a lower cost than anyone else is able to do.  it is the entire reason that superchunck comparison thread on vgchartz was laughable to me from day 1.

NX will be in the ballpark of the original ps4.  ps4 will be sold as of march 2017 for ~$300 at a small profit.  nintendo adds another $50 towards an "innovation" and sells NX for $300 to $350.  #truthfact

Spoiler for Hidden:

A $399 console with the rumored Neo specs is doable imo. It might need to be sold for a small loss, but it&#39;d be a comparable loss to the PS4 at launch. I don&#39;t expect Nintendo to do this, but it&#39;s what Nintendo should have done.<br><br>Actually trying to predict the real NX, it&#39;ll probably be a bit stronger than standard PS4. ~30% I&#39;d guess, same difference between XBO and PS4. Some rumours have mentioned that percentage as well.<br><br>The NX gimmick better be cheap or Nintendo&#39;s lost it. Wii was a cheap console and a cheap gimmick and people loved it, while Wii U was a cheap console and an expensive gimmick and people hated it. The only thing that really seems to be leaked is that the controller&#39;s shoulder buttons can be scrolled left and right.<br><br><a href="http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1236139" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener ugc">http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1236139</a><br><br>If this is true, then it hints that they don&#39;t have a unified gimmick this time around. Scrollable shoulders can&#39;t be a part of something bigger. Maybe it&#39;s like the N64 and they&#39;re just trying to revolutionize the controller again.<br><br>$349 is the max I&#39;d see them going unless the hardware/gimmick can be marketed as premium.<br>

[the-pi-guy]

Designing.

Basically suppose you were in charge of Nintendo.  You have to direct what the NX hardware would be like, and what games would be developed for it.  
Do you want it do VR?  Do you want the focus to be on 3D?  Do you want none of that?  
What games would you want developed?  

Is that good?^
I know I wrote the OP on my phone and super early in the morning/late at night; and just looking at it I guess I wasn't really very clear about stuff.  

I am assuming the explanation was good?  Bad?  

[the-pi-guy]

Basically what I want to do is the following.  

Legend: The NX is a Wii type console, low power, cheap, gimicky.
Bwest: The NX is a PS4 type console, high power, semi cheap, standard console.  
NextPerson: ____----

Then we vote on which console we would be most likely to buy.  
If the NX was ______________ type of system, I would buy this over the others.  

Basically that's my idea^.

[kitler53]

kitler53: NX is a wiiU type console, a confusing set of power console for the day in which it is released (high compared to old hardware, low compared to new hardware), too expensive for what you get, gimicky innovation that is more confusing than desirable aimed at being different for the sake of being different not for providing an obvious benefit to consumers, and a miserable failure.

[Legend]

Spoiler for Hidden:

NX is an operating system.<br><br>Only certified Nintendo hardware can run it, almost iOS like. In March, Nintendo will release a XBO level system and a PS4K level system. Both are NX and both play the same games.<br><br>In December, they release the mobile NX. It runs the same games as the home versions, just with worse graphics.<br><br>Games are all digital (but can be bought on SD cards) and are avaliable on all devices.<br><br>It&#39;s pretty much a 1 to 1 copy of iOS.<br>

[kitler53]

Spoiler for Hidden:

NX is an operating system.

Only certified Nintendo hardware can run it, almost iOS like. In March, Nintendo will release a XBO level system and a PS4K level system. Both are NX and both play the same games.

In December, they release the mobile NX. It runs the same games as the home versions, just with worse graphics.

Games are all digital (but can be bought on SD cards) and are avaliable on all devices.

It's pretty much a 1 to 1 copy of iOS.

Spoiler for Hidden:

that would be more a&nbsp; 1 to 1 copy of android or steamOS than iOS since iOS only runs on apple hardware<br>and no.&nbsp; the casuals would be too confused to purchase that.<br>

[the-pi-guy]

kitler53: NX is a wiiU type console, a confusing set of power console for the day in which it is released (high compared to old hardware, low compared to new hardware), too expensive for what you get, gimicky innovation that is more confusing than desirable aimed at being different for the sake of being different not for providing an obvious benefit to consumers, and a miserable failure.

Thats what you want it to be?