Quote from: kitler53 on Today at 11:01 AMlet me guess, that build doesn't include things like a case or power supply? ..and of course doesn't have features like being able to wake up from the controller?They included everything in the price I believe. But it did draw more power.
so a typical PC build that is full of BS..
Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Today at 03:03 PMYou can now. It wasn't the case just a week ago.okay, then i think comparisons that exclude OS costs are pretty valid for the steam machine then. but yeah, in general PC builds usually leave that out and that is a pretty significant cost to building a PC.
Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Today at 03:03 PMI have a nice gaming PC, but I feel like there are too many "distractions".we already have a bad stuff thread to discuss that...
Quote from: kitler53 on Today at 02:13 PMfor the first time ever i think that isn't a big deal here. steam OS is free right?You can now. It wasn't the case just a week ago.
then again,.. can you install it by yourself on virgin hardware? i only built a PC once and i remember getting windows installed was the biggest frustration since i had up to that point really no experience with bios.
Quote from: kitler53 on Today at 02:13 PMand i disagree about the power supply and case. i aways see a statement around "and who doesn't have multiples of these lying around." all of these "PC is soo cheap compared to console" builds assume you already have a PC and you are just upgrading a few key components. the other things they always leave off is keyboard and mouse. ..and i guess in the case a controller.
i don't have a PC. i have looked into it a bit and i have always found PC to be insurmountably expensive. for the additional cost of PC hardware i could by 5 years of ps+ and ps+ comes with a ton of games that again saves me money compared to PC.
Quotei dabbled in mods when i had a PC. i hated them. too much effort. too much dumb. too unstable.I agree about mods, and I also agree with the PCs doing more bit.
also i find no value in the "but PCs can do soo much more" bit. my work gives me a laptop and it has windows and office already installed so i just also use it for my personal computing needs. PC was much more appealing back when i didn't have a job. which speaking of,.. i work on a PC so gaming on PC is just kind of stress inducing in itself. disconnecting from work is easier if i leave the room and hardware i work on.
Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Today at 01:56 PMI feel like most builds include PSU and case, the bigger killer is that I feel like most builds don't include OS. Although there are some better free options today.for the first time ever i think that isn't a big deal here. steam OS is free right?
The ease of use is the bigger thing.
Quote from: nnodley on Today at 01:42 PMI do, but the fact they have to hype preorder dates is kinda ridiculous. I see their physical release is just going to be a download code with no disc. WTFnot used game market that way.
Quote from: kitler53 on Today at 11:01 AMlet me guess, that build doesn't include things like a case or power supply? ..and of course doesn't have features like being able to wake up from the controller?I feel like most builds include PSU and case, the bigger killer is that I feel like most builds don't include OS. Although there are some better free options today.
so a typical PC build that is full of BS..
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