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[Legend]

The best chess players are pretty absurd.

This is Magnus Carlsen, who is pretty safely the best chess player in the world.

He's able to recognize a position from a famous game 25 years ago without seeing the pieces in the second example, as well as was able to recall the next ~10 moves.

How much of modern chess is strategy vs brute analysis/skill? Is knowing all these past games partially why he's so good, or is it a byproduct of him being so good?

[the-pi-guy]

How much of modern chess is strategy vs brute analysis/skill?

I think it's a lot of both.
There's a lot of theory for openings and endings, whereas the middle part of the game I think tends to be more about brute analysis.

With the openings in particular, there's a lot of theories on what moves to make first, and how to respond.

What I've heard is that for grandmaster level, the difference of having an extra pawn is often enough to win a game.  

Is knowing all these past games partially why he's so good, or is it a byproduct of him being so good?

Based on what I've heard, it's a bit of both, but probably moreso the latter.

Some have talked about how he would often intentionally have a strategy of making unusual sequences of moves, so that he could beat them on the analysis.  

It doesn't seem to be very unusual to be able to memorize games like that for International Masters/Grand Masters, but it sounds like he manages to do that better than anyone else.  

[darkknightkryta]

I think it's a lot of both.
There's a lot of theory for openings and endings, whereas the middle part of the game I think tends to be more about brute analysis.

With the openings in particular, there's a lot of theories on what moves to make first, and how to respond.

What I've heard is that for grandmaster level, the difference of having an extra pawn is often enough to win a game. 
Based on what I've heard, it's a bit of both, but probably moreso the latter.

Some have talked about how he would often intentionally have a strategy of making unusual sequences of moves, so that he could beat them on the analysis. 

It doesn't seem to be very unusual to be able to memorize games like that for International Masters/Grand Masters, but it sounds like he manages to do that better than anyone else. 

Back in the day, my friend had mentioned he used to play chess a lot with a friend of his.  His friend read a book on chess, and after reading, he got a lot harder to beat.  So I imagine that assessment is correct, there's probably a lot of opening and ending strategies.  Since there's only so many moves you can make in an openning so those have probably been super analyzed. 

My students play an online one.  It's pretty simple looking but I don't know what it's called.

[the-pi-guy]

Stockfish lost for the first time in 2 years with White.  

[Legend]

Stockfish lost for the first time in 2 years with White.  

25 minute video is too long for me, but that's surprising isn't it? I thought by now chess ai would orders of magnitude better than where it was when it first started beating masters.

[the-pi-guy]

25 minute video is too long for me, but that's surprising isn't it? I thought by now chess ai would orders of magnitude better than where it was when it first started beating masters.

Sorry I should say it's AI vs AI. 

Leela Chess Zero vs Stockfish.

Stockfish is an absurd champion, and somehow lost.

It's also very hard to lose as white.

Chess played perfectly seems to either end in a draw or white wins. Black winning at this level is very surprising.

[Legend]

Sorry I should say it's AI vs AI.  

Leela Chess Zero vs Stockfish.

Stockfish is an absurd champion, and somehow lost.

It's also very hard to lose as white.

Chess played perfectly seems to either end in a draw or white wins. Black winning at this level is very surprising.

Gotcha. That makes sense.

Was this a one off or is Chess Zero likely to win a rematch?

[the-pi-guy]

I'm really not sure.

[the-pi-guy]

Won against the free 1600 bot on chess.com for the first time, today, and the second time.  

[Legend]

Won against the free 1600 bot on chess.com for the first time, today, and the second time.  

I just beat the 1600 bot too!

(I had all the cheats on, so I just randomly selected one of the recommended moves   )

[the-pi-guy]

I just beat the 1600 bot too!

(I had all the cheats on, so I just randomly selected one of the recommended moves   )

I just drew with the 2882 bot.  

(with hints)

[Legend]

I just drew with the 2882 bot.  

(with hints)

You're improving so fast! Gonna play against a 4000 bot next?

[the-pi-guy]

Watching this Wired video with GothamChess/Levy Rozman like 18 months ago is the reason why I started doing more chess.  

He runs the biggest chess YouTube channel with 5 million subscribers.

And seems like a generally good guy.

He's an International Master, who aspired to be a Grandmaster, which is the step up.
He had formerly given up on becoming a Grandmaster, but he's back at it.

He frequently talks about his nerves throwing him off.

He's currently in his first over the board tournament in over 2 years, and he's doing very well.  



To become a GM, he needs like 200 more rating points, and needs to get 3 GM norms (Basically he needs to get 6.5/9 in a tournament where at least 33% of his opponents are GMs.) So far he's 4/5.



I'm rooting for him.

[Legend]

Would be cool if he makes it. I've seen a few of his videos.

[the-pi-guy]

Hans Niemann is one of the highest rated chess players right now. Kind of known for being full of himself.

He had a game against Gotham Chess and I think it's kind of hilarious for so many reasons.

A.) they've kind of switched places. Hans is the one panicking throughout the game. Levy is just having a good time.

B.) a lot of the comments are funny.  Like:

Hans: you've taken everything from me
Levy using a plug in to block names: I don't even know who you are.