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Started by Dr. Pezus, May 07, 2014, 03:24 PM

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nnodley

Got The expanse complete series blu ray for $55 on amazon. It was a limited deal. Been waiting for a deal to grab it

Legend

Quote from: nnodley on Jan 30, 2024, 12:42 AMGot The expanse complete series blu ray for $55 on amazon. It was a limited deal. Been waiting for a deal to grab it
Why are magboots in the expanse just regular boots with magnets? Shouldn't they at least have a magnet flap or two so people can walk somewhat naturally?

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the-pi-guy

Better Call Saul is incredible at show not tell.  

Spoiler for Hidden:
There is this whole segment where Mike throws shoes onto some power lines. <br><br>Starts shooting, convinces these two people that it is just hunters somewhere. <br><br>He shoots the shoes, the shoes have drugs in them, they cover the truck that the two people were driving. You see them get arrested at the border. <br><br><br>Everything in here is the bare minimum. There&#39;s no exposition or dialogue explaining what Mike is doing wasting bullets. There&#39;s no explanation about the shoes. <br><br>They just show what happens and that&#39;s it. It makes perfect sense from context.<br><br>

I watched this scene, and I feel like most other shows would have exposition or more dialogue to explain everything.

Dr. Pezus

Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Feb 18, 2024, 04:21 AMBetter Call Saul is incredible at show not tell.  

Spoiler for Hidden:
There is this whole segment where Mike throws shoes onto some power lines.

Starts shooting, convinces these two people that it is just hunters somewhere.

He shoots the shoes, the shoes have drugs in them, they cover the truck that the two people were driving. You see them get arrested at the border.


Everything in here is the bare minimum. There's no exposition or dialogue explaining what Mike is doing wasting bullets. There's no explanation about the shoes.

They just show what happens and that's it. It makes perfect sense from context.


I watched this scene, and I feel like most other shows would have exposition or more dialogue to explain everything.
Yeah, quite often you don't really know what's happening until later on but that's what makes it fun. Breaking Bad also had some episodes like that. Cinematography also incredible.

kitler53

yeah, I remember that one.  great episode.  my wife couldn't stop asking me what's going on though.  she's no patient for that kind of stuff.
         

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the-pi-guy

Quote from: Dr. Pezus on Feb 18, 2024, 12:01 PMYeah, quite often you don't really know what's happening until later on but that's what makes it fun. Breaking Bad also had some episodes like that. Cinematography also incredible.
There's lots of patterns in Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul like that.

A lot of show, don't tell.
A lot of episodes where the first scene is actually the last scene.

I feel like both shows are a lot of that. This was just one particular segment where I was thinking about it.

Legend

Maybe I'm just confused because I haven't seen better call saul, but that's not "show don't tell." Show don't tell is only about presenting information in a more active and engaging way, not leaving something unspoken. Your example seems more like an example of subtext.

the-pi-guy

Quote from: Legend on Feb 19, 2024, 04:14 AMMaybe I'm just confused because I haven't seen better call saul, but that's not "show don't tell." Show don't tell is only about presenting information in a more active and engaging way, not leaving something unspoken. Your example seems more like an example of subtext.

Im a bit confused how "showing" the viewer something, "without telling" the viewer about it, isnt show don't tell.

Trying to google the difference between subtext and show don't tell gives me


>One word: subtext. Subtext is the lifeblood of "show, don't tell."

>At its core, subtext is all 'Show, Don't Tell' is



At least from my naive understanding, they seem like concepts that go together.
Subtext would be the actual content that is to be inferred. The subtext would be the implied answers to the question.

Show don't tell is the given method to give that. They show the actions.

Maybe I'm completely wrong here, but I'm not finding any definitions that contradict my usage.

Legend

Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Feb 19, 2024, 05:14 AMIm a bit confused how "showing" the viewer something, "without telling" the viewer about it, isnt show don't tell.

Trying to google the difference between subtext and show don't tell gives me


>One word: subtext. Subtext is the lifeblood of "show, don't tell."

>At its core, subtext is all 'Show, Don't Tell' is



At least from my naive understanding, they seem like concepts that go together.
Subtext would be the actual content that is to be inferred. The subtext would be the implied answers to the question.

Show don't tell is the given method to give that. They show the actions.

Maybe I'm completely wrong here, but I'm not finding any definitions that contradict my usage.
Show don't tell predates movies and does not mean show something without telling the viewer about it. It refers to immersing a person in a scene instead of just describing it factually. "In descriptions of Nature one must seize on small details, grouping them so that when the reader closes his eyes he gets a picture. For instance, you'll have a moonlit night if you write that on the mill dam a piece of glass from a broken bottle glittered like a bright little star, and that the black shadow of a dog or a wolf rolled past like a ball."

Again I haven't seen better call saul but your example sounds more like reading between the lines. It might be obvious in context, but without that context you have no idea what is happening.

the-pi-guy

Quote from: Legend on Feb 19, 2024, 04:51 PMShow don't tell predates movies and does not mean show something without telling the viewer about it. It refers to immersing a person in a scene instead of just describing it factually. "In descriptions of Nature one must seize on small details, grouping them so that when the reader closes his eyes he gets a picture. For instance, you'll have a moonlit night if you write that on the mill dam a piece of glass from a broken bottle glittered like a bright little star, and that the black shadow of a dog or a wolf rolled past like a ball."

Again I haven't seen better call saul but your example sounds more like reading between the lines. It might be obvious in context, but without that context you have no idea what is happening.


I would say I didn't explain it very well.

The scene shows everything through this sequence of events.

A little more spoilery here:

Spoiler for Hidden:
<br>The context for the most part only adds that he&#39;s doing a job for someone. <br><br>The scene has this big sequence of events where they explain almost everything through action.<br><br>You have no idea what he&#39;s doing when the scene starts. <br><br>He throws shoes on the power line.<br><br>He waits for these two guys to come by.<br><br>He starts shooting in the air. The guys react. He keeps shooting in the air. And they make a comment &quot;it must be hunters&quot;. <br><br>The guys get back in their truck and start leaving. <br><br>He shoots the shoes, they show you a white powder landing on the truck. <br><br>Then they show the truck pulling into a border patrol station. And a sniffer dog stopping at the truck, and the two guys get arrested. <br><br>

Here's the scene in it's entirety. Maybe I'm wrong about it being an example of "show-don't-tell".


the-pi-guy

The golden age of DVDs isn't over yet for anime fans

QuoteBrands like Funimation, Viz Media, and Discotek are typically associated with newly remastered anime classics. And it's through partnerships with postproduction companies like MediaOCD that they're able to bring those types of projects to market as physical discs. According to MediaOCD founder and CEO Justin Sevakis, many niche publishers have found success by playing specifically to the small, passionate communities of fans who want to own a piece of the media they love. Though major studios don't usually consider physical releases for projects that aren't expected to move at least 50,000 units, according to Sevakis, "a good hit in the niche Blu-ray space will move something like 5,000."

"We're not talking huge numbers here," he said. "But those are 5,000 people that really loved that anime or show or what have you. And because they get excited over the idea of physically owning media like this, I think it's imperative on us — the people that put these products out — to make something special and definitive."

QuoteSevakis could not tell me the number of times during the production process "where it's like, 'Oh, we need this English dub, but the masters are gone. Better find an old DVD,'" only to then realize that the DVD in question never came out. That's when the hunt turns to eBay, where, luck willing, there might be a collector with an old VHS they're willing to part ways with. That willingness, Sevakis insisted, has been crucial to the continued existence of media that would otherwise probably become lost in the streaming age.



Anime releases are kind of crazy. There's a ton that gets released.

Although some of it can be immensely pricey. I've seen some 12-24 episode series that cost $200 for a Blu-ray set.  Which is higher than most blu-ray sets I've seen of regular tv series.  Aside from a few 200 episode series like Supernatural.

At the very least though, it's nice that there are so many anime series still getting blu-ray releases. Quite a few of them are pretty reasonably priced.

the-pi-guy


the-pi-guy

'Andor,' 'Moon Knight,' 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' Bow on 4K, Blu-ray


QuoteOn April 30, Disney Home Entertainment will release on physical media four more of its streaming series, two from Lucasfilm and two from Marvel Studios.

"Star Wars: Andor — The Complete First Season," "Star Wars: Obi-Wan Kenobi — The Complete Series," "Marvel Studios' Moon Knight: The Complete First Season" and "Marvel Studios' The Falcon and the Winter Soldier: The Complete First Season" will be released individually on 4K UHD and Blu-ray in collectible packaging.

Legend

Only one of those is worth watching, but I'm glad they're supporting discs.

the-pi-guy

Quote from: Legend on Mar 05, 2024, 06:32 PMOnly one of those is worth watching, but I'm glad they're supporting discs.
I assume that one is Andor?