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Started by the-pi-guy, Jan 29, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Xevross

Quote from: Dr. Pezus on Sep 30, 2020, 09:03 PMYeah its unrealistic how young (never mind pretty boy face) he is
Peter is 23, he looks 23. Source: am a 22 year old who knows lots of people around my age.

He definitely doesn't look young than Miles, you need your eyes checking or something.

Dr. Pezus

Quote from: Xevross on Sep 30, 2020, 10:29 PMPeter is 23, he looks 23. Source: am a 22 year old who knows lots of people around my age.

He definitely doesn't look young than Miles, you need your eyes checking or something.
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Well they look about the same age.
Maybe old spidey looked too old for 23. But the worst part is that they changed the look of a character many people loved for apparently no reason

the-pi-guy

Quote from: Dr. Pezus on Sep 30, 2020, 10:33 PMRedirect Notice

Well they look about the same age.
Maybe old spidey looked too old for 23. But the worst part is that they changed the look of a character many people loved for apparently no reason
I gave the reason right here:
Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Sep 30, 2020, 05:39 PMThey wanted him to match the actor so they could use face capture for better animations.  

Watch the video!  


Dr. Pezus

Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Sep 30, 2020, 10:35 PMI gave the reason right here:
Watch the video!  


I know but it just sounds like a battleship reason since the other one worked very well with great facial animations before

Xevross

Quote from: Dr. Pezus on Sep 30, 2020, 10:33 PMRedirect Notice

Well they look about the same age.
Maybe old spidey looked too old for 23. But the worst part is that they changed the look of a character many people loved for apparently no reason
By my eye: old spidey looked late twenties, new spidey looks early twenties, Miles looks late teens. Also that picture makes Miles look older than he does in motion as we saw in the demo.



DerNebel

Quote from: Dr. Pezus on Sep 30, 2020, 10:33 PMRedirect Notice

Well they look about the same age.
Maybe old spidey looked too old for 23. But the worst part is that they changed the look of a character many people loved for apparently no reason
I'd put that more on Miles looking old for a 16 year old (at least in that pic) than Peter looking too young for his age.

And they've given a reason, it's just that it's a technical one that for most people is hard to grasp.

Xevross

Seems to me like with next gen higher fidelity and better modelling, it started to look weird with the voice coming out of Peter's mouth. Perhaps they decided it just didn't match and wasn't believable. I've definitely had some times in games or animation where I think there's no way this person would have this voice.

Dr. Pezus

I didn't even know the PP actor didn't look like that original look lol. Voice seemed completely believable. They didn't use face capture in the PS4 version? Definitely seemed like they did, and with other characters as well like doc oc

Xevross

Quote from: Dr. Pezus on Sep 30, 2020, 10:47 PMI didn't even know the PP actor didn't look like that original look lol. Voice seemed completely believable. They didn't use face capture in the PS4 version? Definitely seemed like they did, and with other characters as well like doc oc
All the mocap is done by Yuri, so they animate the facial expressions and movements based on what Yuri does when he's delivering the lines. With a face that's shaped so differently to his with quite different bone structure, you can imagine how it'd start to look bad/ weird when they try to make animations more detailed and nuanced. I guess its more of a fault of them picking the wrong face model first time round and not thinking ahead about this being a potential problem.

the-pi-guy

Funnily enough. The new PP looks a bit like Pezus.

the-pi-guy


BananaKing

The skin shader, hair and lighting look fantastic on the PS5 model. Shame the model itself is worse

Legend

Quote from: BananaKing on Oct 01, 2020, 03:03 AMThe skin shader, hair and lighting look fantastic on the PS5 model. Shame the model itself is worse
Getting their money's worth with blend shapes too. Just look at that deformed skin around the forehead and neck.

Xevross

Quote from: BananaKing on Oct 01, 2020, 03:03 AMThe skin shader, hair and lighting look fantastic on the PS5 model. Shame the model itself is worse
The model is better.

Dr. Pezus

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Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Oct 01, 2020, 01:37 AMFunnily enough. The new PP looks a bit like Pezus.
Haha I don't agree

I think the old model looks more like me but overall not much