McDonalds Removes Cheeseburger from Happy Meals

Started by darkknightkryta, Mar 19, 2018, 08:03 PM

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ethomaz

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Quote from: Legend on Mar 22, 2018, 04:07 PMDoes brazil have any unique local items?
I don't know but I love the Big Mac in any place in the world... it is amazing tasteful.

Quote from: SWORDF1SH on Mar 23, 2018, 05:05 PMShouldn't the parent make the judgement if their child has a cheeseburger in their happy meal.
I mean if the parent isn't able to use their brain to limit what their child eats when they're in a restaurant as part of a good diet, then the chances are the child eats bad food at home.


Exactly.

The own person (or parents in case of children) needs to choose what come in their Happy Meal (it was always possible to change the items) not the restaurant try to block them from buy it.

Same for obese people... they need to stop to eat bad food and that has nothing to do with me that only like bad food but has no health issue with that.

Dr. Pezus

Quote from: ethomaz on Mar 24, 2018, 03:05 PMI don't know but I love the Big Mac in any place in the world... it is amazing tasteful.
Exactly.

The own person (or parents in case of children) needs to choose what come in their Happy Meal (it was always possible to change the items) not the restaurant try to block them from buy it.

Same for obese people... they need to stop to eat bad food and that has nothing to do with me that only like bad food but has no health issue with that.
If only it was that simple though. The obesity problem is bigger now than that. We can't afford to just let it get bigger and bigger without doing anything.

Limiting availability to bad food is one aspect of preventive health care. It works. What doesn't work is telling obese people that they need to stop eating bad food.

SWORDF1SH

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Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Mar 24, 2018, 01:34 AMWell children do have rights whether the parents say so or not.  

But, I'd argue food is in the parent's domain.  
Vaccines are something that shouldn't be...  
If it was up to my 3 year what he ate, it would be nothing but chocolate and candy. As a parent I have to limit the bad stuff he eats and choose a good diet for him and that includes when we eat out. Of course he still gets a choice what he wants to eat but not a choice of anything he wants.
Another thing is if you're taking your child to Mcdonalds often enough to make eating a cheeseburger burger bad, that's a problem in itself that shouldn't happen with responsible parents.

Quote from: Dr. Pezus on Mar 24, 2018, 05:30 PMIf only it was that simple though. The obesity problem is bigger now than that. We can't afford to just let it get bigger and bigger without doing anything.

Limiting availability to bad food is one aspect of preventive health care. It works. What doesn't work is telling obese people that they need to stop eating bad food.
I do not agree with this at all. If obesity is a huge problem then we might need to got deeper and maybe teach kids at school how to live a healthy lifestyle. Something along the lines of that, endow children with the knowledge and encourage a healthy lifestyle that could snowball into encouraging a healthy lifestyle for their children later on in life  and so on.
Mcdonalds talking cheeseburgers from happy meals is like putting a band aid on a bullet wound.

the-pi-guy

Quote from: SWORDF1SH on Mar 24, 2018, 06:45 PMIf it was up to my 3 year what he ate, it would be nothing but chocolate and candy. As a parent I have to limit the bad stuff he eats and choose a good diet for him and that includes when we eat out. Of course he still gets a choice what he wants to eat but not a choice of anything he wants.
Another thing is if you're taking your child to Mcdonalds often enough to make eating a cheeseburger burger bad, that's a problem in itself that shouldn't happen with responsible parents.
Well, that's what I was saying...  
I very clearly said food was the parent's responsibility.  :P


Quote from: SWORDF1SH on Mar 24, 2018, 06:45 PMI do not agree with this at all. If obesity is a huge problem then we might need to got deeper and maybe teach kids at school how to live a healthy lifestyle. Something along the lines of that, endow children with the knowledge and encourage a healthy lifestyle that could snowball into encouraging a healthy lifestyle for their children later on in life  and so on.
Mcdonalds talking cheeseburgers from happy meals is like putting a band aid on a bullet wound.
Teaching kids to eat healthy doesn't help.  Even adults who think they have a good idea of healthy eating, usually don't.  

I do agree that McDonald's doing this stuff isn't really that helpful.  

Dr. Pezus

Quote from: SWORDF1SH on Mar 24, 2018, 06:45 PMIf it was up to my 3 year what he ate, it would be nothing but chocolate and candy. As a parent I have to limit the bad stuff he eats and choose a good diet for him and that includes when we eat out. Of course he still gets a choice what he wants to eat but not a choice of anything he wants.
Another thing is if you're taking your child to Mcdonalds often enough to make eating a cheeseburger burger bad, that's a problem in itself that shouldn't happen with responsible parents.
I do not agree with this at all. If obesity is a huge problem then we might need to got deeper and maybe teach kids at school how to live a healthy lifestyle. Something along the lines of that, endow children with the knowledge and encourage a healthy lifestyle that could snowball into encouraging a healthy lifestyle for their children later on in life  and so on.
Mcdonalds talking cheeseburgers from happy meals is like putting a band aid on a bullet wound.
Trust me. All of this has been researched. Teaching does not work at all in this regard. Limits to access does.

It's a good thought but the average human isn't that bright tbh.

I do agree that we need to encourage a healthy lifestyle and one way of doing that would be to position healthy food in grocery stores so that they're easier to access.
Ever wondered why there's always candy next to the cashier?

darkknightkryta

Quote from: SWORDF1SH on Mar 24, 2018, 06:45 PMIf it was up to my 3 year what he ate, it would be nothing but chocolate and candy. As a parent I have to limit the bad stuff he eats and choose a good diet for him and that includes when we eat out. Of course he still gets a choice what he wants to eat but not a choice of anything he wants.
Another thing is if you're taking your child to Mcdonalds often enough to make eating a cheeseburger burger bad, that's a problem in itself that shouldn't happen with responsible parents.
I do not agree with this at all. If obesity is a huge problem then we might need to got deeper and maybe teach kids at school how to live a healthy lifestyle. Something along the lines of that, endow children with the knowledge and encourage a healthy lifestyle that could snowball into encouraging a healthy lifestyle for their children later on in life  and so on.
Mcdonalds talking cheeseburgers from happy meals is like putting a band aid on a bullet wound.
To kind of add to what Pezus said above, when I was in high school in my gym class for grade 9 and 10 (Both years were mandatory) they taught us how to eat healthy.  It absolutely boggles my mind when I hear people my age talk about health.  Like really?  Did you fail grade 9/10 health class?  What you're going on about isn't healthy.  Like, what's so hard about eating a balanced diet?  So yes, unfortunately, educating people doesn't work.

ethomaz

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Well while they didn't try to limit my access to non-health food I'm fine.

I have only a single life to eat everything tasteful in the world even if non-health food (these are the best nhami).

Dr. Pezus

Quote from: ethomaz on Mar 25, 2018, 02:53 AMWell while they didn't try to limit my access to non-health food I'm fine.

I have only a single life to eat everything tasteful in the world even if non-health food (these are the best nhami).
Limited access doesn't necessarily mean banning stuff. It could be just repositioning food, making it less obvious than the healthy food.

the-pi-guy

You could make it more expensive to eat junk food.  
Incentivize McDonald's to bring in more healthy foods.  

Like start including pears with every Happy meal or something .

Xevross

As long as everyone can still enjoy the glory of nuggers.

Chicken nuggets are all I eat from McDonald's, and 20 is definitely not a share box >:(

Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Mar 25, 2018, 01:39 PMYou could make it more expensive to eat junk food.  
Incentivize McDonald's to bring in more healthy foods.  

Like start including pears with every Happy meal or something .
Didn't they start doing carrot sticks or something like that?

I think McDonald's is what it is. You're not going there to eat healthily, so who cares if you have a fatty cheeseburger or not. If parents are concerned about their kids having fatty stuff then why the fudge are they at McDonald's. My parents barely ever took me to places like that when I was younger.

Dr. Pezus

Quote from: Xevross on Mar 26, 2018, 11:31 PMAs long as everyone can still enjoy the glory of nuggers.

Chicken nuggets are all I eat from McDonald's, and 20 is definitely not a share box >:(
Didn't they start doing carrot sticks or something like that?

I think McDonald's is what it is. You're not going there to eat healthily, so who cares if you have a fatty cheeseburger or not. If parents are concerned about their kids having fatty stuff then why the fudge are they at McDonald's. My parents barely ever took me to places like that when I was younger.
Well McDonald's is cheap and widely available. Fast healthy food is limited in comparison in most places

the-pi-guy

Yeah.  

Pushing McDonalds to do more would be more beneficial than pretty much any other alternative.  There's very few "restaurants" that have quite the reach they do.

ethomaz

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Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Mar 25, 2018, 01:39 PMYou could make it more expensive to eat junk food. 
Incentivize McDonald's to bring in more healthy foods. 

Like start including pears with every Happy meal or something .
But junk food is cheaper and taste so good.

They need to focus more in junk foods.