Video Game Sales Thread

Xevross · May 10, 2021, 06:52 PM

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|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| NSW # |    165.268 |    105.833 |    115.043 |  2.341.467 |  2.130.326 |  19.681.841 |
| PS5 # |     30.973 |     20.157 |            |    434.601 |            |     689.751 |
| PS4 # |      1.736 |        818 |     24.335 |     67.124 |    360.571 |   9.358.014 |
| 3DS # |        543 |        564 |      1.704 |     12.347 |     23.073 |  24.571.255 |
| XBS # |        512 |        106 |            |     10.478 |            |      41.902 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |    199.032 |    127.478 |    141.297 |  2.866.017 |  2.515.967 |  55.505.866 |
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Golden week sales ^ (first half)

Returnal debuted with 6.5k in Japan.

kitler53 · May 10, 2021, 07:00 PM

Quote from: Xevross on May 10, 2021, 06:52 PM
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+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+ |System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD | +-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+ | NSW # | 165.268 | 105.833 | 115.043 | 2.341.467 | 2.130.326 | 19.681.841 | | PS5 # | 30.973 | 20.157 | | 434.601 | | 689.751 | | PS4 # | 1.736 | 818 | 24.335 | 67.124 | 360.571 | 9.358.014 | | 3DS # | 543 | 564 | 1.704 | 12.347 | 23.073 | 24.571.255 | | XBS # | 512 | 106 | | 10.478 | | 41.902 | +-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+ | ALL | 199.032 | 127.478 | 141.297 | 2.866.017 | 2.515.967 | 55.505.866 | +-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+Golden week sales ^ (first half)

Returnal debuted with 6.5k in Japan.

wow at at that WoW percentage for xbox....

Quote from: Xevross on May 10, 2021, 04:22 PMWell, not Series S because that's digital only, but yes.

so the answer is 'yes'...

Dr. Pezus · May 11, 2021, 01:00 AM

Quote from: BananaKing on May 10, 2021, 03:22 PMSony need to do a reversal on the price, and need to understand that the failures of these games isn't due to lack of demand. But sonys pricing method.

Miles morales wasn't 70. Demons souls was. Look at the difference in sales. Demons souls was a highly anticipated game, from a series that sells well. But it underperformed compared to expectations. Now retournal is doing bad numbers. Despite scoring really well.

Bluepoint and house marque are excellent devs. I hope Sony don't stop working with them because the performance of these games.

Also, sony can't keep up with PS5 demand, you can't blame these games for failing when not everyone who wants these games can't get them because they can't get a PS5

Wait, how much did DS sell?

BananaKing · May 11, 2021, 01:30 AM

Quote from: Dr. Pezus on May 11, 2021, 01:00 AMWait, how much did DS sell?

Not much

Xevross · May 11, 2021, 11:31 AM

Yeah. So... it isn’t big. A little more than half the sales were digital. About 60%. But low figures for the UK overall
— Christopher Dring (@Chris_Dring) May 11, 2021

Returnal digital 60% FW so ~22k total first week incl. digital. Not great.

BananaKing · May 11, 2021, 11:48 AM

Yeah 22k overall isn't horrific. Butnl it definitely ain't good. Hopefully sales i other countries are a bit better and it can become profitable.

Due to the higher profit margin and more digital sales sony is making more money per unit, hopefully that can help with profitability

Xevross · May 11, 2021, 11:57 AM

Well Chris said average sale price was £69 for physical, digital will be £70 exactly so that's £1.54m revenue generated from just the first week in the UK. I don't think the budget for the game will be that high, maybe £20-30m. The game will be profitable.

BananaKing · May 11, 2021, 12:03 PM

You have to major in taxes. Shipping and retailer costs for the physical.

But we will have to see, if it somehow continues to have legs and sells better In other places than in the UK I can see it being profitable

You also have to factor in marketing costs

Xevross · May 12, 2021, 12:03 PM

We got an update as of March 28th from Famitsu:

PS5 non-DE - 485,476
PS5 physical software sales - 179,650
Tie-ratio - 0.37

Yeah that's nothing short of awful, something really weird is happening with PS5 in Japan.

BananaKing · May 12, 2021, 01:26 PM

Japan doesn't have a lot of Japanese centric games. Why does Sony not develop games that would be more popular there? Games like soul sacrifice for example.

They need to make JRPGs, games that might be popular there. Im no expert on the Japanese Market and games, but they dont put effort there.

Xevross · May 12, 2021, 02:50 PM

Famitsu Sales: FY 2020 (2020 Mar 30 - 2021 Mar 28)

01./00. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980) - 4.102.444 / 6.710.861
02./00. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! <TBL> (Konami) {2020.11.19} (¥6.300) - 2.072.296 / NEW
03./00. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure # <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980) - 1.734.446 / 2.479.573
04./00. [NSW] Monster Hunter Rise # <ACT> (Capcom) {2021.03.26} (¥7.990) - 1.302.132 / NEW
05./00. [PS4] Final Fantasy VII Remake # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2020.04.10} (¥8.980) - 954.342 / NEW
06./00. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 910.664 / 3.751.594
07./00. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics <TBL> (Nintendo) {2020.06.05} (¥3.980) - 668.725 / NEW
08./00. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 595.665 / 4.218.939
09./00. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury <ACT> (Nintendo) {2021.02.12} (¥5.980) - 592.683 / NEW
10./00. [NSW] Super Mario 3D All-Stars <Super Mario 64 \ Super Mario Sunshine \ Super Mario Galaxy> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2020.09.18} (¥6.480) - 578.850 / NEW
11./00. [NSW] Pikmin 3 Deluxe <ACT> (Nintendo) {2020.10.30} (¥5.980) - 552.910 / NEW
12./00. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 540.900 / 1.872.739
13./00. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980) - 471.852 / 4.014.376
14./00. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 469.560 / 3.825.969
15./00. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980) - 468.982 / 1.850.769
16./00. [PS4] Ghost of Tsushima <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2020.07.17} (¥6.900) - 439.739 / NEW
17./00. [NSW] Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2020.11.20} (¥7.200) - 356.416 / NEW
18./00. [NSW] Paper Mario: The Origami King <ADV> (Nintendo) {2020.07.17} (¥5.980) - 310.874 / NEW
19./00. [NSW] eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2020 <SPT> (Konami) {2020.07.09} (¥6.980) - 293.242 / NEW
20./00. [PS4] Resident Evil 3 # <ADV> (Capcom) {2020.04.03} (¥7.800) - 272.004 / NEW
00./00. [NSW] Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin # <SLG> (Marvelous) {2020.11.12} (¥4.980) - 147.828 / NEW
00./00. [PS4] Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin # <SLG> (Marvelous) {2020.11.12} (¥4.980) - 83.165 / NEW
00./00. [PS5] Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales # <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2020.11.12} (¥5.900) - 46.000 / NEW

Top 20

NSW - 17
PS4 - 3

SOFTWARE

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|System |  This FY   |  Last FY   |
+-------+------------+------------+
|  NSW  | 23.096.768 | 19.193.142 |
|  PS4  |  6.046.573 |  6.966.274 |
|  PS5  |    179.650 |            |
|  3DS  |    155.198 |    491.858 |
|  OTH  |     28.419 |    219.355 |
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|  ALL  | 29.506.608 | 26.870.629 |
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HARDWARE

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|System |  This FY   |  Last FY   |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+-------------+
| NSW # |  6.001.565 |  5.225.014 |  19.085.348 |
| PS5 # |    580.211 |            |     580.211 |
| PS4 # |    432.450 |    921.752 |   9.350.779 |
| 3DS # |     56.959 |    119.853 |  24.568.276 |
| XBS # |     40.009 |            |      40.009 |
| XB1 # |      2.183 |      7.948 |             |
+-------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |  7.113.377 |  6.281.167 |  54.784.747 |
+-------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  PS5  |    485.476 |            |     485.476 |
| PS5DE |     94.735 |            |      94.735 |
| XBS X |     30.636 |            |      30.636 |
| XBS S |      9.373 |            |       9.373 |
| NSW L |  1.517.510 |  2.009.473 |   3.526.983 |
|  NSW  |  4.484.055 |  3.215.541 |  15.558.365 |
| XB1 X |      1.508 |      4.749 |             |
| XB1 S |        675 |      3.199 |             |
|PS4 Pro|    112.283 |    336.793 |   1.575.723 |
|  PS4  |    320.167 |    584.959 |   7.775.056 |
|n-2DSLL|     54.835 |    106.288 |   1.173.331 |
| n-3DS |      2.124 |     13.565 |             |
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kitler53 · May 12, 2021, 04:27 PM

Quote from: BananaKing on May 12, 2021, 01:26 PMJapan doesn't have a lot of Japanese centric games. Why does Sony not develop games that would be more popular there? Games like soul sacrifice for example.

They need to make JRPGs, games that might be popular there. Im no expert on the Japanese Market and games, but they dont put effort there.

sony just ended that 'golden week sale' in which japonese centric games were on sale. call me a racist but as i scanned the list i thought to myself,.. wow, what a lot of games that are:
1. gratuitously sexist
2. ancient and uninnovative gameplay
3. graphically terrible
4. bad menu layouts

i'm sorry but japan centric games have little to no appeal outside of japan. the juice isn't worth the squeeze as they say.

BananaKing · May 12, 2021, 05:32 PM

Quote from: kitler53 on May 12, 2021, 04:27 PMsony just ended that 'golden week sale' in which japonese centric games were on sale. call me a racist but as i scanned the list i thought to myself,.. wow, what a lot of games that are:
1. gratuitously sexist
2. ancient and uninnovative gameplay
3. graphically terrible
4. bad menu layouts

i'm sorry but japan centric games have little to no appeal outside of japan. the juice isn't worth the squeeze as they say.

They can fix that and still release games. Try do something like persona, monster hunter and final fantasy. I didnt play any of those games, and im not into Japanese games. But if they want success in the region, release software that appeals to it.

Doesn't have to be AAA games. Do some AA budget games.

Xevross · May 12, 2021, 05:54 PM

The software that goes huge in Japan is pretty much completely random, even games like Persona and Yakuza aren't that big. Japan is just an awful market to work with and Sony are right for basically ignoring it and letting whatever gets popular there happen by chance. Dedicating a game to Japan risks massively losing out on sales in the west, then Japan could just say "meh" and mostly ignore it anyway.

The west is much more predictable and there's way more markets for demand to average out over. Making games like Final Fantasy which are huge in the west and happen to do fairly well in Japan is the way forward for Sony, and they know it.

the-pi-guy · May 12, 2021, 06:41 PM

Quote from: Xevross on May 12, 2021, 05:54 PMDedicating a game to Japan risks massively losing out on sales in the west

Well they don't have to "dedicate" it to Japan.
I'd love for them to try making a game like Final Fantasy, or more Bloodborne. Something that's definitely Japanese, but still pretty popular in the West.

But their western first party games practically do better in Japan than their Japanese ones. So understandably, it's hard to justify trying to do that.

On the other hand, Sony Music seemingly knows how to make games for Japan. SIE hasn't had the same kind of success, and it's not completely from a lack of trying. The market has been moving over to handhelds/mobile for a while, and SIE is investing in the things they've been able to be successful in.