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Started by Xevross, Aug 14, 2014, 02:56 PM

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Xevross

So looks like the reason Sony never mentioned any PS5 numbers could be because they knew it would be behind PS4. I'm having to rethink my predictions of a PS5 explosive start, seems they just can't produce enough. And maybe that Bloomberg report was right....

Xevross

So here's all the PS5 sales we know about so far:

US - 1.14-1.35M (Up to 28th Nov)
UK - >250k (First week beats PS4 - up to Nov 21st)
Japan - 213k (Up to Dec 5th)
France - 107k (First week sales - up to Nov 21st)
Spain - 43k (First week sales - up to Nov 21st)

Total of at least 1.75M confirmed sales from these markets.

As for XBS:

US - <900k (Up to 28th Nov)
UK - 155k (Launch sales - up to 11th Nov)
Japan - 29k (Up to Dec 5th)
France - 37k (First week sales - up to Nov 14th)
Spain - 14k (First week sales - up to Nov 14th)

No minimum here due to no lower bound on US, but fair to say its ~900k and call it 1.13M confirmed sales from these markets.
Update on this

UK now 430k as of end of 2020
Japan 265k as of Jan 3rd.
Spain 73k as of Dec 12th

This update adds 260k sales for a new minimum 2.01M confirmed PS5 sales. Missing Nov for most smaller markets and Dec for everywhere outside of UK and Japan. I'm now thinking PS5 will come in lower than PS4 as of the end of the year. PS4 was 4.2m sell-through and 4.5m shipped. I think PS5 will be somewhere around 4m sell-through and 4.2m shipped.

Xbox is now at 300k in the UK, 31k in Japan, 22k in Spain in the same period. So this update adds 155k sales and we're now at ~1.19M confirmed sales for XBS. I'm thinking XBS will also miss XB1's 3m shipped, probably around 2.75m shipped.

Xevross

Spain week 51:

Nintendo Switch: 35.000 units
 PS4: 4.800 units
 PS5: 3.600 units (3.500 disc, 100 digital) [77k LTD]
 XBS 3.300 units (X 1.900, S 1.200) [25.5k LTD]
 XB1: 300 units

Really terrible numbers from playstation. PS5 is way down on PS4 2013.

Legend

Wait did ps5 numbers come out?

the-pi-guy

Wait did ps5 numbers come out?
Just some local numbers.

Xevross

Spain week 52:

Xbox Series: 2.800 / 27.800
 PlayStation 5: 1200 / 78.000

Spain week 53:

Xbox Series: 2.150 / 29.950
 PlayStation 5: 400 / 78.400

I don't think I need to comment on how bad that is for PS5. Shipments basically stopped.

XB1 had 30k in 2013, so XBS matched that. PS4 had 150k, PS5 barely managed half of that.

Considering XBS launched in many more markets, I think it will pretty much match XB1's 2013 numbers of 3M. Its pretty clear PS5 will short of PS4's 4.5M at this point.

Here's Japan's latest week:

Code: [Select]
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| NSW # |    167.596 |    312.121 |    116.301 |    479.717 |    401.128 |  17.820.091 |
| PS5 # |     11.164 |     10.632 |            |     21.796 |            |     276.946 |
| PS4 # |      6.820 |     17.876 |      7.359 |     24.696 |     65.603 |   9.315.586 |
| 3DS # |        551 |        714 |        943 |      1.265 |      4.973 |  24.560.173 |
| XBS # |        109 |        134 |            |        243 |            |      31.667 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+


PS5 holding steady is a good sign, there's probably just a solid shipment every week that will stay constant until production increases. People were complaining about PS5 stock in Japan but actually compared to Spain its pretty good and UK isn't much better.

kitler53

it's amazing how little stock there is available.  i wonder what's wrong.
          

the-pi-guy

it's amazing how little stock there is available.  i wonder what's wrong.
1.) Lower yields. Counter to the Bloomberg report, lower yields were probably expected.  

2.) Covid logistical issues.

kitler53

1.) Lower yields. Counter to the Bloomberg report, lower yields were probably expected.  

2.) Covid logistical issues.
i was probably being rhetorical.   

i'm just feeling a bit sad that i probably won't have a ps5 in time for ratchet and clank like i was expecting to when i decided not to make any attempt to pre-order.
          

Xevross

So PS5 pretty much matches PS4 LTD in the US. Perhaps Japan + other new markets can make up for the decline in Europe and PS5 still shipped close to 4.5M.

For xbox is reverse, XB1 was matched in Europe but its down a fair bit in the US, new markets might make up for that as well but depends on how big the gap in the US is. Seems to be close to matching XB1's 3M though.

Pretty much as you were compared to last gen after the first holiday then.

Xevross

Jan 18, 2021, 12:31 PM Last Edit: Jan 18, 2021, 12:35 PM by Xevross
Some German physical (+ digital estimates) sales milestones for December:


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Animal Crossing: New Horizons reached 1.000.000 copies sold in December after passing the 500k mark in May.

Cyberpunk 2077 was launched in December, and was able to sell more than 500.000 units in its launch month. FIFA 21 was the only other game this year with 500k+ sales in its launch month.
Assassin's Creed Valhalla passed 500.000 units sold in December after reaching the 200k milestone in November, its launch month.
The Last of Us: Part II passed 500.000 units sold in December after reaching the 200k milestone in June, its launch month.

Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales passed 200.000 units sold in December after reaching the 100k milestone in November, its launch month.

51 Worldwide Games passed 100.000 units sold in December, its first milestone since its release in June.
Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity passed 100.000 units sold in December, its first milestone since its release in November.
Just Dance 2021 passed 100.000 units sold in December, its first milestone since its release in November.
Obviously a very strong launch for Cyberpunk, completely undeserved.

Xevross

Switch is absolutely beasting at the start of 2021 in Japan. Could be on for a record quarter if it keeps it up, even bigger than last year's Q1 which had the massive AC bump.

Xevross

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US - 1.14-1.35M (Up to 28th Nov)
UK - >250k (First week beats PS4 - up to Nov 21st)
Japan - 213k (Up to Dec 5th)
France - 107k (First week sales - up to Nov 21st)
Spain - 43k (First week sales - up to Nov 21st)

Total of at least 1.75M confirmed sales from these markets.

As for XBS:

US - <900k (Up to 28th Nov)
UK - 155k (Launch sales - up to 11th Nov)
Japan - 29k (Up to Dec 5th)
France - 37k (First week sales - up to Nov 14th)
Spain - 14k (First week sales - up to Nov 14th)

No minimum here due to no lower bound on US, but fair to say its ~900k and call it 1.13M confirmed sales from these markets.
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Update on this

UK now 430k as of end of 2020
Japan 265k as of Jan 3rd.
Spain 73k as of Dec 12th

This update adds 260k sales for a new minimum 2.01M confirmed PS5 sales. Missing Nov for most smaller markets and Dec for everywhere outside of UK and Japan. I'm now thinking PS5 will come in lower than PS4 as of the end of the year. PS4 was 4.2m sell-through and 4.5m shipped. I think PS5 will be somewhere around 4m sell-through and 4.2m shipped.

Xbox is now at 300k in the UK, 31k in Japan, 22k in Spain in the same period. So this update adds 155k sales and we're now at ~1.19M confirmed sales for XBS. I'm thinking XBS will also miss XB1's 3m shipped, probably around 2.75m shipped.
So an update now we have the US, as of the end of 2020, for PS5:

US 1958k
UK 430k
Japan 265k
Spain 78k

Total from these four = 2.73M. Total known sales = 2.84M (add 107k France first week).

PS4 had at the end of 2013:

US 2003k
UK 580k
Japan 0
Spain 150k

Total from these four = 2.73M. So PS4 and PS5 are identical in these markets. The trend is downwards for existing markets though, as Japan is new. Does lead me to thinking that PS5 will be down from the 4.2M of PS4. Sticking with my ~4.0M estimate.

Now for XBS:

US 1492k
UK 300k
Japan 31k
Spain 30k

Total from these four = 1.85M. Total confirmed = 1.89M (add France first week).

XB1 in 2013 had:

US 1813k
UK 400k
Japan 0
Spain 30k

Total = 2.24M. So XBS is down by 390k in these four markets, and this includes possibly its biggest "new" market compared to XB1 launch. I think my estimate of 2.75M stands, it might be a little bit lower actually, lets say 2.6M sell-through WW.

Xevross

Latest Japan week:

Code: [Select]
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| NSW # |    170.691 |    167.596 |     96.458 |    650.408 |    497.586 |  17.990.782 |
| PS5 # |      7.328 |     11.164 |            |     29.124 |            |     284.274 |
| PS4 # |      3.422 |      6.820 |      6.325 |     28.118 |     71.928 |   9.319.008 |
| 3DS # |        546 |        551 |        766 |      1.811 |      5.739 |  24.560.719 |
| XBS # |        160 |        109 |            |        403 |            |      31.827 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |    182.147 |    186.240 |    103.623 |    709.864 |    575.572 |  52.186.610 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+



Switch is insane. The inflated baseline demand doesn't seem to have gone away at all. Holiday bump wasn't any bigger than normal so its kind of weird.

kitler53

Latest Japan week:

Code: [Select]
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| NSW # |    170.691 |    167.596 |     96.458 |    650.408 |    497.586 |  17.990.782 |
| PS5 # |      7.328 |     11.164 |            |     29.124 |            |     284.274 |
| PS4 # |      3.422 |      6.820 |      6.325 |     28.118 |     71.928 |   9.319.008 |
| 3DS # |        546 |        551 |        766 |      1.811 |      5.739 |  24.560.719 |
| XBS # |        160 |        109 |            |        403 |            |      31.827 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |    182.147 |    186.240 |    103.623 |    709.864 |    575.572 |  52.186.610 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+



Switch is insane. The inflated baseline demand doesn't seem to have gone away at all. Holiday bump wasn't any bigger than normal so its kind of weird.
not weird if it is supply limited i suppose.   
          

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